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Curse you @BlueVod. I was starting to enjoy my Easter weekend. Don't do this to me, again.
 
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Who is 15?

Let me state up front - I haven't been drinking fine West Virginia basement-still white lightning tweets, however trippy they may be. However...

The Big10 has needed hockey partners for several years, and I can't think of a reason why there would be any delay if it was really going to be ASU. The agreement would clearly be hockey only, and there's no reason why ASU wouldn't (and couldn't) say yes the moment they were offered.

I think the delay in timing is because we're #15 (and #8 for hockey) - and number 16, or 16-18, or 16-20 (or whatever the Big10 end goal is) is somewhat fluid and dependent upon how the next few months play out.

Even if we aren't already "in" - if I was the Big10 I would view Uconn as the pin in the grenade of total conference chaos. Conference realignment only about money - nothing else. And I can't fathom the Big10 letting a Big12 Network or ACC Network getting a presence in the northeast, in a top 20-ish market (the combined CT DMA), and a meaningful presence in the NY and Boston markets, when it can have those markets (and that money) all to itself.

No ACC or Big12 network leads to chaos. Chaos leads to the Big10's end goal, and please (please!) let the chaos begin.
 
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The Big10 has needed hockey partners for several years, and I can't think of a reason why there would be any delay if it was really going to be ASU. The agreement would clearly be hockey only, and there's no reason why ASU wouldn't (and couldn't) say yes the moment they were offered.

>>Arizona State coach Greg Powers said it's a question he gets every day, and is one the program is close to answering. "We have not made a decision yet, but we're close," Powers said. "We're down to getting very granular and plan on using the Frozen Four to meet with different people to do that. And shortly after that we'll probably have an announcement to make."<<
 
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Let me state up front - I haven't been drinking fine West Virginia basement-still white lightning tweets, however trippy they may be. However...

The Big10 has needed hockey partners for several years, and I can't think of a reason why there would be any delay if it was really going to be ASU. The agreement would clearly be hockey only, and there's no reason why ASU wouldn't (and couldn't) say yes the moment they were offered.

I think the delay in timing is because we're #15 (and #8 for hockey) - and number 16, or 16-18, or 16-20 (or whatever the Big10 end goal is) is somewhat fluid and dependent upon how the next few months play out.

Even if we aren't already "in" - if I was the Big10 I would view Uconn as the pin in the grenade of total conference chaos. Conference realignment only about money - nothing else. And I can't fathom the Big10 letting a Big12 Network or ACC Network getting a presence in the northeast, in a top 20-ish market (the combined CT DMA), and a meaningful presence in the NY and Boston markets, when it can have those markets (and that money) all to itself.

No ACC or Big12 network leads to chaos. Chaos leads to the Big10's end goal, and please (please!) let the chaos begin.

I keep thinking of this quote from Delany to give myself hope. For crying out loud, he put an office in New York City. But nothing happens.

"There sat the Big Ten, quiet amid the chaos. Finally, Delany had to act. The tipping point: The ACC’s move into the Big Ten’s geographic region.

“At that point, there was more risk to not do anything,” said Delany. “It was worth the risk to change. To not change with other leagues coming into our areas … ”


Enter Rutgers and Maryland."

- See more at: http://btn.com/2014/05/07/dienhart-big-tens-big-bold-move-east/#sthash.DNYW6nrq.dpuf
 
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There's no rush to add ASU right away, and the quote about using the FF to meet with everyone is pretty much on point. The coaches need to decipher it, decide on it and tell their presidents how to vote. There's some due diligence that needs to be done about ASU's arena situation, and research into who would be the backup option, as well as debating it. The hold up is not because they want to extend an all-sports invite to UConn. ASU is the frontrunner, this has been rumored for a while. Barring any unforeseen arena problem, they'll be #8. Fantasies about this becoming UConn's ticket to the B1G in all sports are just that, fantasies.
 

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The B1G wants these markets; but, it is doubtful hat the Power Conferences will be reduced to fewer than 4 as more than 20 schools per conference would get really unwieldy and could leave out too many politically connected state universities. So, the B1G will not try to kill both the XII and ACC. The B1G is also friendly with the PAC, so I can't see a raid in that direction. An alliance, yes, especially as they basically have one already with the Rose Bowl.

As for a 20 team conference, the B1G would move to a 'pod' arrangement for football with 4 pods of 5 teams to make scheduling easier. Every team gets 4 'in-pod' games, 2 cross-over games (one of which could be locked) and TBD game with each of the pod leaders playing each other in a conference semi-final with the winners going to the conference championship game (13th game) while the non pod leaders are paired-off in some fashion. That leaves 3 available non-conference games. While some teams will not see much of each other, with a 2 game rotation, each team should be able to rotate through everyone in a 5 year period.

So, lets say ND abandons the ACC, Missouri gets a second chance and the XII folds

East: 1) UConn, 2) Rutgers, 3) Maryland, 4) Penn St, 5) ND
Central: 1) Ohio St, 2) Michigan, 3) Michigan St, 4) Purdue, 5) Indiana
North: 1) Minnesota, 2) Iowa, 3) Wisconsin, 4) Northwestern, 5) Illinois
South: 1) Texas, 2) Oklahoma, 3) Kansas, 4) Missouri, 5) Nebraska

No, what you would do is rotate through the pods. Each year the 2 divisions would change. You would play every school in a three year span. No cross overs (most of us hate those anyway). In your scenario, each division has at least one anchor school. Wisconsin as an anchor is a stretch, but the other three divisions are loaded.

Year 1: East/Central and North/South are the divisions.
Year 2: East/North and Central/South
Year 3: East/South and Central/North

The winner of each division plays in the CCG. All of the conference games mean something, and the winner of the CCG is the true champion.
 
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A true 4-division set up, with a 4-team playoff started during the last week of the regular season, is presented here. (substitute UConn for FSU in the example provided there)

However, I like @dayooper 's suggestion better.
 
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No, what you would do is rotate through the pods. Each year the 2 divisions would change. You would play every school in a three year span. No cross overs (most of us hate those anyway). In your scenario, each division has at least one anchor school. Wisconsin as an anchor is a stretch, but the other three divisions are loaded.

Year 1: East/Central and North/South are the divisions.
Year 2: East/North and Central/South
Year 3: East/South and Central/North

The winner of each division plays in the CCG. All of the conference games mean something, and the winner of the CCG is the true champion.

Fair enough. Just to play devil's advocate, what happens if 2 rivals (Michigan St/Ohio St/Michigan St/Michigan, Indiana/Purdue, etc.) are placed in different pods for some reason or another? Also, if each team plays every team from their 'pod' and another that is 9 games then throw in an extra playoff game is 10. That leaves just 2 non-conference games. Is that enough?
 
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Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
First thing I want to say is that I don't want to scare anyone. These are scary times economically.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
It's entirely possible some major programs will be left out.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
When I lay out Plan A then I think you will see what I mean.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
But even if some major programs are left out, that doesn't mean they won't be a part of what will become a power conference.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
It just means they won't be in the upper echelon and that isn't too different from where they are right now.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
This is all about where college sports are moving in the next generation.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Some of the things we've come to take for granted will change. The way you think about realignment will have to change.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
So bare with me as I lay out the groundwork.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
I said last night that schools from the Pac 12, the Big 12, and the ACC are planning on aligning themselves.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Who? What? When? Where? Why?

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Now that I've teased this to death, I need to tell you.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
This isn't just about athletics. This is about academics just as much if not more.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
This is about research money and prestige as well as television appeal for a new athletic league.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
The thought at this time is that this league will be composed of 20 schools from regions all over the country.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
AAU schools will get preference, but non-AAU schools won't necessarily be excluded.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
One of the primary goals here is to create a research based cooperative that will rival and in the future surpass the CIC.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
This won't just be about partnerships but shared endowments as well.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying the schools involved will give up the endowments they currently possess.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
There will be new investment in new endowments that the members of this conference will share in.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Now that we've nibbled at the crust, let's get down to the meat.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
All of the AAU schools from the Pac 12 will be involved: UW, UO, Stanford, Cal-Berkley, USC, UCLA, UA, and CU

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Only 4 schools from the current Big 12 are making the cut: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Iowa State

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
When it comes to the ACC contribution, things get a little murkier. I don't have good contacts from that conference.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
The AAU schools are in. GT, UNC, Duke, UVA, Pittsburgh...there's no debate about these schools.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
The debate centers on a few factors: academics, market exposure, and athletic prowess

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
None of the rest of the ACC schools really move the needle in all 3 areas.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
The only other ACC school that really moves the needle in all 3 areas is the big fish no one has ever caught...Notre Dame.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Now, I'm not saying Notre Dame is definitely going to join this league assuming the league ever comes to fruition.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Allow me to indulge on this theory.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
What does Notre Dame value more than anything?

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
You probably said "independence." But that's really a means to an end.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
What Notre Dame values more than anything is national exposure, a national schedule, and national recruiting.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Notre Dame is THE Catholic university in the country. They don't want their brand limited by affiliation with a regional conference

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
What if Notre Dame could play a national schedule and reap all the monetary benefits of full membership in a conference?

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
How valuable would a conference network be all over the country with a couple of Notre Dame football games on every season?

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Think about it like this...ND gets to play their West Coast rivals, regular games with OU and UT...

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
They get all the exposure of playing in growing Southern markets plus they have room to play non-conference rivals like Navy and Michigan.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Just as important, they get to affiliate with premier academic institutions from all over the country.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Would Notre Dame take the plunge given all those benefits? Some people think so.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
If Notre Dame is in then you can bet on Boston College and Miami being the final 2 schools. The total would be 20.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
As I mentioned earlier, Syracuse has a real shot at getting in. My money is on them getting in if for no more reason than the NY market

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Some think this leagues desperate needs a NY presence and they are probably right.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Syracuse is already affiliated with the ACC so that helps their case immensely over a school like UConn.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
I'm certainly not knocking UConn and I can't say with certainly they won't find their way in...

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
I'm just saying I haven't heard UConn mentioned.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
One more nugget before I go today...

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Part of the impetus for this meeting of the minds is that certain schools from the ACC and Big 12 have been talking with the Big Ten and SEC

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
There's a chance that the likes of Florida State and Clemson will move to the SEC sooner than later.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
There's a chance the likes of Virginia Tech could move to the Big Ten.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
If things start to happen on that front then the rest of the ACC will have to be ready to do something a little out of the box.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Ok, ladies and gentlemen. I need to go for today, but I will be back soon if I have more relevant information.

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 6h6 hours ago
@Expansion_Guru I see no New York market in there, would that be an opportunity for UConn?

Benedict Schuster‏@Expansion_Guru
@gampel_2_msg That's where things get hairy. Syracuse has a real shot at being included.

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 6h6 hours ago
@Expansion_Guru would academics potentially be demarcation line? We're closer to AAU. I've read us achieving that status in next decade

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
@gampel_2_msg I would tell you if I heard something. I just haven't heard UConn being mentioned.

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 5h5 hours ago
@Expansion_Guru I hear ya. Man what is going to take to get this school P5 status? (That's rhetorical but feel free to answer haha)

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
@gampel_2_msg My guess would be that UConn will get Power status. I just doubt it will be as a member of this new league.
 
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Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
First thing I want to say is that I don't want to scare anyone. These are scary times economically.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
It's entirely possible some major programs will be left out.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
When I lay out Plan A then I think you will see what I mean.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
But even if some major programs are left out, that doesn't mean they won't be a part of what will become a power conference.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
It just means they won't be in the upper echelon and that isn't too different from where they are right now.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
This is all about where college sports are moving in the next generation.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Some of the things we've come to take for granted will change. The way you think about realignment will have to change.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
So bare with me as I lay out the groundwork.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
I said last night that schools from the Pac 12, the Big 12, and the ACC are planning on aligning themselves.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Who? What? When? Where? Why?

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Now that I've teased this to death, I need to tell you.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
This isn't just about athletics. This is about academics just as much if not more.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
This is about research money and prestige as well as television appeal for a new athletic league.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
The thought at this time is that this league will be composed of 20 schools from regions all over the country.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
AAU schools will get preference, but non-AAU schools won't necessarily be excluded.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
One of the primary goals here is to create a research based cooperative that will rival and in the future surpass the CIC.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
This won't just be about partnerships but shared endowments as well.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying the schools involved will give up the endowments they currently possess.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
There will be new investment in new endowments that the members of this conference will share in.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Now that we've nibbled at the crust, let's get down to the meat.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
All of the AAU schools from the Pac 12 will be involved: UW, UO, Stanford, Cal-Berkley, USC, UCLA, UA, and CU

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
Only 4 schools from the current Big 12 are making the cut: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Iowa State

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
When it comes to the ACC contribution, things get a little murkier. I don't have good contacts from that conference.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
The AAU schools are in. GT, UNC, Duke, UVA, Pittsburgh...there's no debate about these schools.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 6h6 hours ago
The debate centers on a few factors: academics, market exposure, and athletic prowess

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
None of the rest of the ACC schools really move the needle in all 3 areas.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
The only other ACC school that really moves the needle in all 3 areas is the big fish no one has ever caught...Notre Dame.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Now, I'm not saying Notre Dame is definitely going to join this league assuming the league ever comes to fruition.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Allow me to indulge on this theory.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
What does Notre Dame value more than anything?

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
You probably said "independence." But that's really a means to an end.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
What Notre Dame values more than anything is national exposure, a national schedule, and national recruiting.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Notre Dame is THE Catholic university in the country. They don't want their brand limited by affiliation with a regional conference

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
What if Notre Dame could play a national schedule and reap all the monetary benefits of full membership in a conference?

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
How valuable would a conference network be all over the country with a couple of Notre Dame football games on every season?

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Think about it like this...ND gets to play their West Coast rivals, regular games with OU and UT...

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
They get all the exposure of playing in growing Southern markets plus they have room to play non-conference rivals like Navy and Michigan.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Just as important, they get to affiliate with premier academic institutions from all over the country.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Would Notre Dame take the plunge given all those benefits? Some people think so.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
If Notre Dame is in then you can bet on Boston College and Miami being the final 2 schools. The total would be 20.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
As I mentioned earlier, Syracuse has a real shot at getting in. My money is on them getting in if for no more reason than the NY market

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Some think this leagues desperate needs a NY presence and they are probably right.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Syracuse is already affiliated with the ACC so that helps their case immensely over a school like UConn.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
I'm certainly not knocking UConn and I can't say with certainly they won't find their way in...

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
I'm just saying I haven't heard UConn mentioned.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
One more nugget before I go today...

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Part of the impetus for this meeting of the minds is that certain schools from the ACC and Big 12 have been talking with the Big Ten and SEC

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
There's a chance that the likes of Florida State and Clemson will move to the SEC sooner than later.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
There's a chance the likes of Virginia Tech could move to the Big Ten.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
If things start to happen on that front then the rest of the ACC will have to be ready to do something a little out of the box.

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
Ok, ladies and gentlemen. I need to go for today, but I will be back soon if I have more relevant information.

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 6h6 hours ago
@Expansion_Guru I see no New York market in there, would that be an opportunity for UConn?

Benedict Schuster‏@Expansion_Guru
@gampel_2_msg That's where things get hairy. Syracuse has a real shot at being included.

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 6h6 hours ago
@Expansion_Guru would academics potentially be demarcation line? We're closer to AAU. I've read us achieving that status in next decade

Benedict Schuster ‏@Expansion_Guru 5h5 hours ago
@gampel_2_msg I would tell you if I heard something. I just haven't heard UConn being mentioned.

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 5h5 hours ago
@Expansion_Guru I hear ya. Man what is going to take to get this

They can call themselves the American Athletic Conference
 

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Ah, no.

We're not going to indulge that nitwit's Twitter nonsense.

I'm declaring this Benedict fellow unfit for the non-key tweet thread and since we do not have anything lower than non-key tweets, he misses the cut for the entire website.
 

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New realignment kid on the block. 85 tweets in 24 hours. Protecting his identity. Somewhere, HFD is laughing.
 

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Ah, no.

We're not going to indulge that nitwit's Twitter nonsense.

I'm declaring this Benedict fellow unfit for the non-key tweet thread and since we do not have anything lower than non-key tweets, he misses the cut for the entire website.

Agreed. It's just the Dude trolling UConn fans.
 

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Fair enough. Just to play devil's advocate, what happens if 2 rivals (Michigan St/Ohio St/Michigan St/Michigan, Indiana/Purdue, etc.) are placed in different pods for some reason or another? Also, if each team plays every team from their 'pod' and another that is 9 games then throw in an extra playoff game is 10. That leaves just 2 non-conference games. Is that enough?

It's hard to get them all, but it's possible. The set up you had was perfect. Adding two from the East and four from the west evens everything out great. The issue comes in if you added all ACC/Eastern schools. There will be some of the minor rivalries that get left out, but they all should be able to fit together. You don't need a 10th game because the two pods become that division for that year. 10 teams, 9 games, the division champ goes to the CCG.
 

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I have no idea what to make of the last 1o pages or so of...well, I don't know what that was.

What I do know is that not a lot has changed from the various predatory conferences (SEC, BIG, PAC) contemplating various scenarios to increase their own value and revenue streams at the potential expense of the donor conferences (AAC, ACC, B12).

Things I also know:

UConn hockey is not leaving Hockey East on its own unless as a precursor to a full B1G invite. ND just showed you why. Hockey travel is different. You play two games, sometimes on back to back nights which doesn't happen in FB. The travel party is a lot bigger than in BB and the other olympic sports. So, flying to every game is a big deal. ASU has to deal with that because they are in the desert and want to play hockey for some reason. Every B1G would make one trip, so not a huge burden for them. HE is a bus league and UConn isn't leaving that just for the $$.

If either the B12 or ACC becomes open to poaching, that hurts UConn's chances to be anything other than backfill to the ACC. If the B12 cracks, they are done and the remaining schools become the AAC2. Maybe UConn joins that if the $$ is better, but it won't be a true P5 lifeboat.

If the ACC cracks, the prospects become a little better. The ACC becomes the Non-C7 Big East plus ACC also rans. There is also a better chance of that more of the ACC core remains. if it is only FSU and Clemson running to a FB first conference. The question then becomes does the ACC replace them or just sit at 12+ND. We know that the remaining teams plus UConn and Cincy would remain a P5 league and probably be alright in FB. Miami probably benefits most, if they get their act together. The $$ would lag for a while until the ACC recovers their content rights, but it would be a significant improvment to our situation over everything except an invite from the B1G or a stabilized B12.

None of these fools, know what will happen because right now it's all due diligence at best and the board changes constantly.
 
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I have no idea what to make of the last 1o pages or so of...well, I don't know what that was...

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Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 54m54 minutes ago
The ACC isn't expanding. Nobody has been invited to join the Big 12. Nobody has left the Big 12.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 53m53 minutes ago
The B1G isn't expanding either. Nor is the Pac 12. Where is this stuff coming from?

Tayner Mangill ‏@Daddio_7 55m55 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV mostly from people like you.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@Daddio_7 Wrong. I haven't said any of that.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 52m52 minutes ago
GoRs are dangerous things. Only FSU may have a legitimate shot of getting out of the GoR & it's a half-court shot.

Bryan FischerVerified account‏@BryanDFischer
ACC schools will get more from the 2016 NCAA tournament than Pac-12 schools will from the Pac-12 Networks this year.

Jimi Burress ‏@jimi357 4h4 hours ago
Jimi Burress Retweeted Bryan Fischer

@theDudeofWV this is why the gap in FB revenue is less of an issue to ACC than to other conferences

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 55m55 minutes ago
@jimi357 @BryanDFischer I don't think hoops money is that big a deal.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 54m54 minutes ago
@jimi357 @BryanDFischer A bigger deal is that conf $ shouldn't be more than 45% of a schools revenue.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 51m51 minutes ago
@jimi357 @BryanDFischer For example I think only 1 or 2 Big Ten schools had more revenue than OU's $135M in 2015.



Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
Expansion headfakes have officially begun... #expansion I have heard leaks now from officials of all major Conferences.Musical chairs begin

Matt McClure ‏@mmcclure1981 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Have you heard anyone mention WVU?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@mmcclure1981 Not that I can recall but I have only been listening and asking regarding Big10.

Derek Burris ‏@dfb_goblue 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal any specific teams that you expect to end up in the Big 10

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 1h1 hour ago
@dfb_goblue I know they want Texas. OU and Flordia State want the big10 all other names are based on big TV markets. DC Atlanta, Texas.

Donny Mill ‏@donnymil 26m26 minutes ago
@Bluevodreal wud think B1G wud want NYC/NE too. UConn wud deliver that and has similar characteristics as other B1G schools

Derek Burris ‏@dfb_goblue 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal do you have any idea when it'll all start

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@dfb_goblue Lawyers are now reviewing contracts so it has begun. You know it is serious when they bring out the legal team.

CA Curtis ‏@Iamgrizzly1974 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal A good question would be, where does ND joining B1G Ice Hockey lead , anywhere?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@Iamgrizzly1974 Good question not sure how many if any of the new potential Big10 teams have hockey program.

Hank ‏@BigBlueHank 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal waiting eagerly to hear more on this

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 1h1 hour ago
@BigBlueHank I have to imagine it start leaking nationally very soon. Hard to keep a lid on it now.

wethyhusky ‏@desrochers_ben 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal what happens to Uconn?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@desrochers_ben not sure may have a chance to go to Big12 if a couple leave. It is almost impossible to predict right now.

B Cous ‏@B_Cousy3 1h1 hour ago
@Bluevodreal nothing you tweet says you know what's going on at all. All vague comments and no substance

Erich Keithly ‏@ekeithly_1 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Why do I get the feeling your just trying to drive up twitter traffic?
 
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It feels like The B1G beginning its TV contract negotiations is really stirring up the crazy. Known realignment rejects like Tuxedo Yoda or MH3 would blush at how ridiculous some of the ideas are being proposed by this new wave of dopes. God bless Wolverine Fans if they are buying any of the junk that Bluevodoo or whatever is peddling. Total horse *.
 

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It feels like The B1G beginning its TV contract negotiations is really stirring up the crazy. Known realignment rejects like Tuxedo Yoda or MH3 would blush at how ridiculous some of the ideas are being proposed by this new wave of dopes. God bless Wolverine Fans if they are buying any of the junk that Bluevodoo or whatever is peddling. Total horse *.

Eh, most in the know fans on the "edge of the universe" say they'll believe it when they see it. I still believe (sorry UConn) that the Big12 is in the most danger and that Boren was just putting pressure on UT to make a Big12 Network. What will happen from it, who knows?
 

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