John Solomon@johnsolomoncbs
Pac-12 tables NCAA proposal to allow athletes to profit off their name for non-athletic business ventures
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/25446855/ncaa-convention-preview-concern-over-players-profiting-off-their-names…
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@JonSolomonCBS Jon, if the SEC isn't opposed to the B12 having a CCG with 10 & no members why are they voting against the legislation?
John Solomon@johnsolomoncbs
@theDudeofWV Pretty sure SEC supports the latest B1G amendment: 10 members, round robin, no divisions. SEC doesn't want total deregulation.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@JonSolomonCBS Sankey has said he isn't against a B12 CCG w 10 & no divisions. So I'm curious what concerns the SEC?
John Solomon@johnsolomoncbs
@theDudeofWV Not sure I'm following you. This latest amendment wasn't on the table when Sankey spoke Sunday. My guess is he will support it.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@JonSolomonCBS But if you mean Sankey opposes the B1G amendment but not the legislation. Itself then it makes sense.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@JonSolomonCBS I'm trying to find out why Sankey had spoken for the amendment previously.
spartypants@WACspartypants
@JonSolomonCBS @theDudeofWV @sg2waugh
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@WACspartypants @JonSolomonCBS @theDudeofWV CCG deregulation comes down to Pac-12 support. Whichever way they go will decide
spartypants@WACspartypants
@sg2waugh @JonSolomonCBS @theDudeofWV don't think you had sec opposed last I looked
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@WACspartypants @sg2waugh @JonSolomonCBS don't think they do. SEC doesn't want the B12 to expand. Especially into SEC territory.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV @WACspartypants @JonSolomonCBS SEC & B1G not worried about expansion. Cincy, UConn, who cares? AAC only conference at risk.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh @WACspartypants @JonSolomonCBS SEC doesn't want Big 12 in Florida. At least they didn't want them in Fla with FSU.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV @WACspartypants @JonSolomonCBS no ACC school will ever consider B12. Texas might eventually bail to ACC if (when) OU bolts
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh Your statement about no ACC schools leaving for the Big 12 was almost as ignorant as your statement about Texas joining the ACC.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV Big 12 unstable. When TV contract runs out, all bets off. OU has made it very clear they'll bolt the first chance they get.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh Clear? How? You know how that started? A few idiots heard the news about the B1G evaluating OU in 2011 & jumped to conclusions.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh As a matter of fact Dave Boren was a driving force behind the B12 GoR & is now the primary power broker in the Big 12.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh OU doesn't want in the SEC, B1G or Pac 12. They want a strong Big 12. Boren's on record saying that & his desire to have a network
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV Yeah right. He'd pass up a chance to join CIC.
ROFL
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh Yet the ACC has the lowest revenues of the P5 and the weakest SoS. Several key schools - FSU & UNC - have revenue problems.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV FSU is a research university. Nexus with Duke, UNC, Virginia, far more important and larger part of revenue than athletics
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh And private schools like Pitt are losing between 4-6 million each year on football.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh Plus 80% of ACC football viewers watch FSU & Clemson. The other 12 have the lowest combined TV ratings - even behind AAC.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV We'll let things play out over the next decade. I'm 99% sure you have a homers opinion of the B12 that will be proven wrong
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh The Big Ten amendment is to stop the ACC from going to pods & arranging a FSU-Clemson CCG every year.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV FSU was awarded more than $252.548m in total research expenditures. That almost triples athletics, funds profs. >> atheltics
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh I suggest you go back to 2012 and view Jim Smith's speech to the FSU board about athletic funding.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV West Virginia will be a G5 school
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh @WACspartypants @JonSolomonCBS The Big 12 turned down FSU because of the TV contract & the SEC Sugar Bowl deal.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh The ACC is the Big East plus FSU & Clemson. FSU wants out & will leave if the ACCN doesn't happen.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV FSU would accept SEC and maybe B1G, but not B12. Presidents make that decision not ADs. research nexus outweighs athletics
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV We'll let things play out over the next decade. I'm 99% sure you have a homers opinion of the B12 that will be proven wrong
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh The Big Ten amendment is to stop the ACC from going to pods & arranging a FSU-Clemson CCG every year.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh I suggest you go back to 2012 and view Jim Smith's speech to the FSU board about athletic funding.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh Funny... what has the ACC done for FSU. The last time I checked in 2012 the answer was nothing.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV West Virginia will be a G5 school by 2030
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh FSU has already cut the athletic budget across the board.
Stuart Waugh@sg2waugh
@theDudeofWV So has Cal.
All P5 schools not breaking even is the result of poor budget control. Not of lack of revenue
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh The man at FSU who wanted to leave for the Big 12 is still there and he has more power than ever - Jimbo Fisher.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh The only ACC school with self-support athletics is NCST. Whereas 6 of 10 Big 12 schools are self supporting.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh Really? have you seen Pitt's attendance numbers? What about BC? Wake? Duke plays in a high school stadium.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh FSU's academic success & the inability to support athletics with academic money makes it MORE likely FSU leaves.
@theDudeofWV but not for Big 12.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh It royally pisses me off when someone like you with a peripheral understanding of expansion, asserts fiction is indeed fact.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh And the Big 12 has actually helped WVU with research projects and funding.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh The Big 12 is also a much stronger football conference. Much stronger. It also has 3 AAU schools.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh The current gap between the B12 and ACC is $12M and will grow. $12M a year is a lot for a school with a limited alumni base.
Christopher Lambert@thedudeofwv
@sg2waugh The Big 12 turned FSU down. But if ACCN doesn't happen why wouldn't FSU leave?
ME: Classic Dude!