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[CallMeBruce]

FSU's athletic department revenue ($121.3 million) is already more than any in the Big 12 save Oklahoma and Texas...Do you think a bump of $6-$10 million (5-9%) is enough to entice a program to leave its rivalries. play west of the Mississippi, out of the alumni footprint, and away from the east coast recruiting areas?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...sports-sec-big-ten-dominate-100m-revenue-club

Yeah, I can't imagine that FSU would find Texas recruiting appealing at all.

 

[Seaa Blue]

Do you think a bump of $6-$10 million (5-9%) is enough to entice a program to leave its rivalries. play west of the Mississippi, out of the alumni footprint, and away from the east coast recruiting areas?

In FSU's case, absolutely. Why would you leave $6-$10 million on the table for (arguably) better football, and Texas recruiting on top of that?

 

[pj]

The ACC footprint that isn't shared with SEC or B1G (Virginia and North Carolina) is bigger than the B12 footprint that isn't shared with SEC or B1G (Oklahoma and Kansas).

If ESPN doesn't want to duplicate markets, then it seems natural to have the B1G and SEC raid Oklahoma, Kansas, Virginia, Va Tech, UNC, and Duke.

But then is there enough college content to go around to Fox sports network, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU? If networks go to the a la carte model the B1G is promoting, the major cable channels would have to pay up-to-date market rates for all content. It is probably easier to keep the house conferences (B12, ACC, AAC) around.

 

[pj]

In FSU's case, absolutely. Why would you leave $6-$10 million on the table for (arguably) better football, and Texas recruiting on top of that?

If east coast recruiting is important, just bring a few more ACC schools along with you.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Greg Fluguar@flugempire
https://post original url/EXJbFWSu5Y
Again...we have nothing to add. We would just refer you all to our Jan 3rd & Feb 15th tweets.
UC/UCONN to Big 12.

Let's say this...
Big 12 has to reform/expand/add CCG/..now...
...for it to survive past next contract.
East Coast Markets with $

Who are the available East Coast Markets with $?
UCONN.
Cincy
FLA - Orlando/Tampa.
ESPN not interested in B12N in FL....
UC/UCONN

We are here in the open...ready to be flamed if we are wrong.
We are not hiding.
We are not sending out different and confusing messages.

Our info comes from OU.
Through BTM
Confirmed by UCONN "people" on Jan 1st...and again on Feb 15th.
We stand by our declaration
UC/UCONN

 

[MattMang23]

I like his posts. But he needs a map if he's going to claim Cincinnati is an "East Coast" market.

 

[NYUConn]

I like his posts. But he needs a map if he's going to claim Cincinnati is an "East Coast" market.

Maybe he means east coast timezone?

 

[MattMang23]

Maybe he means east coast timezone?

He probably does. They're in the time zone. That is about the only way they're considered Eastern, because they're like quintessentially Midwest.

 

[The Funster]

The UConn "people" has to include that big donor who's last name begins with a "B".

 

[Stinger92860]

I like his posts. But he needs a map if he's going to claim Cincinnati is an "East Coast" market.

If you live in Denver or California, Cincinnati is East. Granted the coast is a bit off.

 

[MattMang23]

The UConn "people" has to include that big donor who's last name begins with a "B".

No. It means Chief00, Nelson and freescooter.

 

[Stinger92860]

The UConn "people" has to include that big donor who's last name begins with a "B".

I thought it would be an S

 

[huskeynut]

Interesting he says "Confirmed by UCONN "people" on Jan 1st...and again on Feb 15th."

 

[uconndennis]

He probably does. They're in the time zone. That is about the only way they're considered Eastern, because they're like quintessentially Midwest.

You'd think so...Ive travelled to Cincy a ton for work. I fully expected a typical mid-western town when I first went out there but its has so much more of a southern feel than I would have thought. Probably due the tons of people who work in Cincy actually live in Northern Kentucky

 

[junglehusky]

He probably does. They're in the time zone. That is about the only way they're considered Eastern, because they're like quintessentially Midwest.

According to this map (source), the quintessential Midwestern states are the "I" states - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa. Ohio is kind of mid tier Midwest, not core Midwest.

 

[MattMang23]

You'd think so...Ive travelled to Cincy a ton for work. I fully expected a typical mid-western town when I first went out there but its has so much more of a southern feel than I would have thought. Probably due the tons of people who work in Cincy actually live in Northern Kentucky

I could see that since it's hard to say that people who live five minutes apart live in two totally different parts of the country (Ohio in the Midwest and Kentucky in the South), so there's bound to be some meshing of cultures. I guess they're not quintessential Midwestern like, say, Indianapolis probably is, but I still don't identify Cincy as East.

 

[MattMang23]

According to this map (source), the quintessential Midwestern states are the "I" states - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa. Ohio is kind of mid tier Midwest, not core Midwest.

People claiming Montana and Wyoming are Midwest need a map as bad as Flug does.

 

[NYUConn]

People claiming Montana and Wyoming are Midwest need a map as bad a Flug does.

Honestly I always considered everything west of Iowa and Minnesota "Plains states" and everything west of Nebraska, Kansas and the Dakotas the Mountain West.

 

[MattMang23]

Honestly I always considered everything west of Iowa and Minnesota "Plains states" and everything west of Nebraska, Kansas and the Dakotas the Mountain West.

Exactly how I see it.

Until California, Oregon and Washington anyway, which everyone knows are of course, East Coast.

 

[uconndennis]

I could see that since it's hard to say that people who live five minutes apart live in two totally different parts of the country (Ohio in the Midwest and Kentucky in the South), so there's bound to be some meshing of cultures. I guess they're not quintessential Midwestern like, say, Indianapolis probably is, but I still don't identify Cincy as East.

I agree....Cincy is East in time zone only

 

[huskypantz]

Honestly I always considered everything west of Iowa and Minnesota "Plains states" and everything west of Nebraska, Kansas and the Dakotas the Mountain West.

South Dakota - at least the western part of the state - fancy themselves are part of the west. Lots of western and old west references. https://www.deadwood.com/history/

 

[justgoplay]

You'd think so...Ive travelled to Cincy a ton for work. I fully expected a typical mid-western town when I first went out there but its has so much more of a southern feel than I would have thought. Probably due the tons of people who work in Cincy actually live in Northern Kentucky

I think your observations of Cincinnati are accurate....Most Cincinnatians feel more of a kinship with the folks from Louisville, Nashville, and Knoxville. They generally resent the state of Ohio, bairly tolerate Columbus, and Cleveland might as well be on the mars. This is probably why people up state in Ohio refer to it as "Cincitucky"........

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs 4h4 hours ago
It's become clear, the Big 12 has to do SOMETHING ... http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25507811/the-big-12-has-to-do-something-soon--or-else-seven-things-to-know…

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@dennisdoddcbs Why do you think Louisville would have been a better addition to the Big 12. Location?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Dennis Dodds says Big 12 sitting on top of a goldmine of network content. Where have you heard that before?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@dennisdoddcbs 14 seems to be the magic number for a network. Take a look at an estimate of potential revenues.

C.L.H. ‏@calluke1 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire when you say "now", are you implying that we could have official announcements in the upcoming days/weeks?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@gampel_2_msg @calluke1 I meant "now" in they have to expand this go-around...can't wait another 2-3 years. This Summer is best bet.

Martin borg ‏@Martyaborg 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire byu brings more then both uc and uconn and ESPN knows it. Byu will be one of the schools

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@Martyaborg I'm sure ESPN does know it...but FOX wants eastern adds or they are not playing nor paying into B12 Expansion.

Geoffrey Mitchell ‏@geoffmitchell 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire @Martyaborg B12 doesn't want BYU unless for football only down the road. But no Sunday a deal breaker for most Uni Presidents

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@geoffmitchell @Martyaborg To expand into 3rd different time zone for a Conference trying to survive is a bridge too far.

Geoffrey Mitchell ‏@geoffmitchell 2h2 hours ago
@flugempire @Martyaborg I agree with that as well. Distance and Sundays are bad combo when trying to get sports in on a weekend.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Ratfink ‏@a_ratfink 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV Doesn't that study indicate that the ACC would be an extremely valuable property with all of the cable boxes within their area?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 42m42 minutes ago
@a_ratfink ACC did a media survey. If you go below the 1st level of data you see some issues with ACC value.

Brownie ‏@BillBrown101 42m42 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV good article and sit down with the commissioner.

hristopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 35m35 minutes ago
@BillBrown101 I hope everybody caught the nugget buried in the story. A huge impact.

GoPowercat.com ‏@GoPowercat 34m34 minutes ago
Should the Big 12 return to 12? http://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/big-12-expansion-breaking-down-the-candidates… The Candidates: http://kansasstate.n.rivals.com/news/big-12-expansion-breaking-down-the-candidates-1… FREE Big 12 Expansion Analysis by @GPC_Fitz

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 19m19 minutes ago
@GoPowercat @GPC_Fitz I also think you should have added revenue, attendance, avg TV rating, merchandising rank, facilities & subsidies.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 12m
@GoPowercat @GPC_Fitz I did this in 2014. Info was provided by each school. Notice ECU's DMA. Not Greenville...

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 16m16 minutes ago
@dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports #BYU Dennis, great article. @theDudeofWV has had same conjecture. Rumblings ACC launches their NET preemptively?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4m4 minutes ago
@dun1870gc @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports The problem for the ACCN is that ESPN owns all the content, it's major markets would compete with SECN

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4m4 minutes ago
@dun1870gc @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports It has 7 private schools & market saturation in its best markets.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
Dennis Dodds says Big 12 sitting on top of a goldmine of network content. Where have you heard that before?

Mo Persinger ‏@hmpersinger3 8m8 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV From John Marinatto

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6m6 minutes ago
@hmpersinger3 how come all the jokes are at my expense?

Mo Persinger ‏@hmpersinger3 4m4 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV cause you make it so irresistible. $8M for UConn? Cmon! If that were even remotely true, ACC would have them

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 36s36 seconds ago
@hmpersinger3 See the attachment. That market size includes NYC. UCONN has little chance without NYC.

 

[dwalks93]

Bes

Ratfink ‏@a_ratfink 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV Doesn't that study indicate that the ACC would be an extremely valuable property with all of the cable boxes within their area?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 42m42 minutes ago
@a_ratfink ACC did a media survey. If you go below the 1st level of data you see some issues with ACC value.

Brownie ‏@BillBrown101 42m42 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV good article and sit down with the commissioner.

hristopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 35m35 minutes ago
@BillBrown101 I hope everybody caught the nugget buried in the story. A huge impact.

GoPowercat.com ‏@GoPowercat 34m34 minutes ago
Should the Big 12 return to 12? http://kansasstate.n com/news/big-12-expansion-breaking-down-the-candidates… The Candidates: http://kansasstate.n com/news/big-12-expansion-breaking-down-the-candidates-1… FREE Big 12 Expansion Analysis by @GPC_Fitz

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 19m19 minutes ago
@GoPowercat @GPC_Fitz I also think you should have added revenue, attendance, avg TV rating, merchandising rank, facilities & subsidies.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 12m
@GoPowercat @GPC_Fitz I did this in 2014. Info was provided by each school. Notice ECU's DMA. Not Greenville...

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 16m16 minutes ago
@dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports #BYU Dennis, great article. @theDudeofWV has had same conjecture. Rumblings ACC launches their NET preemptively?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4m4 minutes ago
@dun1870gc @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports The problem for the ACCN is that ESPN owns all the content, it's major markets would compete with SECN

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4m4 minutes ago
@dun1870gc @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports It has 7 private schools & market saturation in its best markets.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
Dennis Dodds says Big 12 sitting on top of a goldmine of network content. Where have you heard that before?

Mo Persinger ‏@hmpersinger3 8m8 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV From John Marinatto

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6m6 minutes ago
@hmpersinger3 how come all the jokes are at my expense?

Mo Persinger ‏@hmpersinger3 4m4 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV cause you make it so irresistible. $8M for UConn? Cmon! If that were even remotely true, ACC would have them

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 36s36 seconds ago
@hmpersinger3 See the attachment. That market size includes NYC. UCONN has little chance without NYC.

Best Quote above:

"Mo Persinger ‏@hmpersinger3 4m4 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV cause you make it so irresistible. $8M for UConn? Cmon! If that were even remotely true, ACC would have them"

Obviously, the ACC would never make a mistake in expansion selection. I mean if UConn was a P5 school they would be in the P5.

There is a reason the ACC is not getting a network and it is in large part due to the failure to retain and expand wisely. Passing on UConn is part of that failure. Why other fans can't figure this out I have no idea.

Personally, I look forward to the upcoming steel cage death match between the ACC schools for the limited spots in the SEC/BIG. If the ACC does not get a network then it is not "if" but instead "how long until" ACC teams bail for the network conferences.

 

[calluke]

MHver3 ‏@MHver3 22m22 minutes ago
B12 members are all saying they will sign off on a GOR that will keep the conference intact until at least 2030 pending B12N

MHver3 ‏@MHver3 23m23 minutes ago UC and Uconn will get the conf it's pro rata increase. The next additions will require the contracts to be renegotiated.

MHver3 ‏@MHver3 23m23 minutes ago 2 ACC schools very interested now in B12. Uconn and UC will almost assuredly be 11 and 12.

MHver3 ‏@MHver3 25m25 minutes ago Target in state/market subscription fee will be $0.65. Rest of the country $0.12

MHver3 ‏@MHver3 26m26 minutes ago It's on like Donkey Kong. UT is gonna do it. Took some cajoling by ESPN but LHN is gonna become B12N

 

[calluke]

The above Tweets were from @mh ver3

 

[uchusky32]

Bes



Best Quote above:

"Mo Persinger ‏@hmpersinger3 4m4 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV cause you make it so irresistible. $8M for UConn? Cmon! If that were even remotely true, ACC would have them"

Obviously, the ACC would never make a mistake in expansion selection. I mean if UConn was a P5 school they would be in the P5.

There is a reason the ACC is not getting a network and it is in large part due to the failure to retain and expand wisely. Passing on UConn is part of that failure. Why other fans can't figure this out I have no idea.

Personally, I look forward to the upcoming steel cage death match between the ACC schools for the limited spots in the SEC/BIG. If the ACC does not get a network then it is not "if" but instead "how long until" ACC teams bail for the network conferences.

So obvious looking back the ACC was reactionary and let Football trump long turn investment. Not dollars generated by market. Not thinking about packaging their own programming. Yes Football drives the bus but there is a reason Boise will never be in a major conference. From a pure sports perspective ACC loses Maryland adds Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville for all sports ND for football but let B1G take DC and Part of NY with weak to moderate sports additions. Look at results $.

ACC possibly maneuvered itself to be the next BE.

 

[calluke]

So obvious looking back the ACC was reactionary and let Football trump long turn investment. Dollars generated by market. Packaging their own programming. Yes Football drives the bus but there is a reason Boise will never be in a major conference. From a pure sports perspective ACC loses Maryland adds Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville for all sports ND for football but let B1G take DC and Part of NY with weak to moderate sports additions. Look at results $.

ACC possibly maneuvered itself to be the next BE.

And ESPN is the puppet master who will have destroyed them both.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

If the conferences are all moving to 16, the thought of taking Texas instead of Boise State should focus a few minds.

No doubt given Boise State CC delivers little to nothing compared with UT's massive student, alumni, and fan populations, overall athletic department, and university reach. No population, DMA, cities, nada, zip, zilch, etc. When some people mention Boise State and the Pac 12, it's comical. UT, not so comical and almost sensible should the Big 12 explode and the Pac 12 be willing to accommodate Bevo.