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[BoatShow]

Not many public universities are Michigan (call it UVA, UCLA & Cal, maybe UNC, Wisconsin, Texas). That said, UConn is not at Indiana’s level (yet), even if US News ranks UConn higher (#63) than Indiana (#83).

· US News - IU: #83, UConn: #63

· AAU - IU: Yes (1909), UConn: No

· Students - IU: 42,000, UConn: 22,000

· Endowment - IU: $1.5 Billion, UConn: $300 Million

· Research - IU: $500 Million, $200 Million

· DMA – IU: Indianapolis #26, UConn: Hartford/New Haven #30

· Football Stadium – IU: 52,000 on-campus, UConn: 40,000 off-campus

· NCAA Titles, men’s basketball – IU: 5, UConn: 3

· NCAA Titles, women’s basketball – IU: 0, UConn: 8

· NCAA Titles, men’s soccer – IU: 8, UConn: 2

· NCAA D1 Hockey – IU: No, UConn: Yes

Really, the only advantages UConn has over Indiana is: women’s basketball, a D1 Hockey program, and UConn is a closer (140 miles) to its secondary TV market (NYC #1) than Indiana (230 miles) is to its (Chicago #3) and UConn also has a secondary TV market (Boston #7, 80 miles). UConn does have its immediate TV DMA to itself though as Indiana does have to compete with the Colts, Pacers and Purdue.

UConn competes with the Giants, Pats, Jets, Knicks, Nets, Celtics, Bruins, Rangers, Islanders and whatever out of market NFL team people may like for whatever reason for eyeballs, wallets, and attention during football/basketball season.

 

[jostar1]

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV40m
New details from one of my best B1G sources. B1G narrows focus to 5 potential schools. Details Soon.

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV27m
Odd as it sounds the U of Houston is now on the B1G radar. Don’t shoot me I’m just passing it along.

Ringneck85‏@Ringneck8528m
@theDudeofWV Thought AAU was a requirement?

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV26m
@Ringneck85 Remember Delany’s job is to find the most money. Hou isn’t bound by a GoR. Vetting isn’t voting.

Larry Walker‏@Manny_Insanity9m
@theDudeofWV @Ringneck85 if GORs is an issue and they need 16 the smart move for B1G would Houston and UConn.

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV25m
I’m not going to justify UH because they were my first school. I will say you guys need to project 25-100 years down the road.

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV23m
2 camps in B1G. 1 insists on AAU the other on $. And talks are nowhere near serious. Just exchanging financials.

 

[specialisthusky]

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV40m
New details from one of my best B1G sources. B1G narrows focus to 5 potential schools. Details Soon.

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV27m
Odd as it sounds the U of Houston is now on the B1G radar. Don’t shoot me I’m just passing it along.

Ringneck85‏@Ringneck8528m
@theDudeofWV Thought AAU was a requirement?

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV26m
@Ringneck85 Remember Delany’s job is to find the most money. Hou isn’t bound by a GoR. Vetting isn’t voting.

Larry Walker‏@Manny_Insanity9m
@theDudeofWV @Ringneck85 if GORs is an issue and they need 16 the smart move for B1G would Houston and UConn.

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV25m
I’m not going to justify UH because they were my first school. I will say you guys need to project 25-100 years down the road.

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV23m
2 camps in B1G. 1 insists on AAU the other on $. And talks are nowhere near serious. Just exchanging financials.

Come on man.

 

[UConnDan97]

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV27m
Odd as it sounds the U of Houston is now on the B1G radar. Don’t shoot me I’m just passing it along.

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV25m
I’m not going to justify UH because they were my first school. I will say you guys need to project 25-100 years down the road.

Yeah, just passing it along. As in "puff, puff, pass."

To steal a line from Fishy: When you have the opportunity to take the fourth best team in Texas, you have to take it.

The cherry on the top is that he wants to "project 100 years down the road"....Holy Christ!!!

 

[woomba]

Yes but what took place the previous four years!

Looking at the overall GDP growth over the past 15 years between Conn and Indiana and they're about equal in % growth, with Indiana growing more in absolute $. I'm sorry this doesn't jive with your theory that the Midwest as a barren wasteland.


Bureau of Economic Analysis Gross Domestic Product by State (millions of current dollars)

Area Industry

1997​

1998​

1999​

2000​

2001​

2002​

2003​

2004​

2005​

2006​

2007​

2008​

2009​

2010​

2011​

2012​

Connecticut All industry total

$137,145​

$143,725​

$149,387​

$163,455​

$168,161​

$168,865​

$173,915​

$187,545​

$196,307​

$209,487​

$221,133​

$219,449​

$217,103​

$221,767​

$225,409​

$229,317​

Indiana All industry total

$168,228​

$180,015​

$187,783​

$198,238​

$199,996​

$208,674​

$220,228​

$231,762​

$239,321​

$248,630​

$261,755​

$260,971​

$252,488​

$270,739​

$284,344​

$298,625
​

 

[Chuck]

Yeah, just passing it along. As in "puff, puff, pass."

To steal a line from Fishy: When you have the opportunity to take the fourth best team in Texas, you have to take it.

The cherry on the top is that he wants to "project 100 years down the road"....Holy Christ!!!

That's because this time conference realignment is permanent. Seriously, they totally called "no give backs," "no cuts," "freeze," etc. this time so you have to look out at least a century. With the rise of sea levels the east and west coast are going to be dead. You don't think Delaney sees this?

 

[UConnDan97]

That's because this time conference realignment is permanent. Seriously, they totally called "no give backs," "no cuts," "freeze," etc. this time so you have to look out at least a century. With the rise of sea levels the east and west coast are going to be dead. You don't think Delaney sees this?

Unless of course, you factor in global warming, whereby in 100 years, Texas and Oklahoma are the friggin' Sahara Desert and we are the new agricultural center of the country.....just sayin'...

 

[Chuck]

Unless of course, you factor in global warming, whereby in 100 years, Texas and Oklahoma are the friggin' Sahara Desert and we are the new agricultural center of the country.....just sayin'...

I like where your head is at Not "HuskyFanDan" or "UConn Dan."

 

[itgoeslike]

Looking at the overall GDP growth over the past 15 years between Conn and Indiana and they're about equal in % growth, with Indiana growing more in absolute $. I'm sorry this doesn't jive with your theory that the Midwest as a barren wasteland.$298,625

Here's a more telling statistic:

2012 Per Capita Income

Connecticut $58,908 Rank: 1st

Indiana $36,902 Rank: 39th

http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm

or this one. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income

 

[Stinger92860]

Looking at the overall GDP growth over the past 15 years between Conn and Indiana and they're about equal in % growth, with Indiana growing more in absolute $. I'm sorry this doesn't jive with your theory that the Midwest as a barren wasteland.


Bureau of Economic Analysis Gross Domestic Product by State (millions of current dollars)

Area Industry

1997​

1998​

1999​

2000​

2001​

2002​

2003​

2004​

2005​

2006​

2007​

2008​

2009​

2010​

2011​

2012​

Connecticut All industry total

$137,145​

$143,725​

$149,387​

$163,455​

$168,161​

$168,865​

$173,915​

$187,545​

$196,307​

$209,487​

$221,133​

$219,449​

$217,103​

$221,767​

$225,409​

$229,317​

Indiana All industry total

$168,228​

$180,015​

$187,783​

$198,238​

$199,996​

$208,674​

$220,228​

$231,762​

$239,321​

$248,630​

$261,755​

$260,971​

$252,488​

$270,739​

$284,344​

$298,625
​

Please go home to your own board.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

GDP growth and "top" faculty residency preferences.

These aren't non-tweets!

 

[upstater]

So, let me get this straight. The top faculty don't want to live and work outside of large cities. I see, that means no top faculty ever want to live anywhere other than the large metro areas. Yeah, I suppose. I guess the people left in Iowa City, Madison, Champaign-Urbana, Bloomington, Lansing, Ann Arbor, Happy Valley, Lincoln, Lawerence, Boulder, Lafayette, South Bend and others are the people that couldn't get jobs in the Northeast. Yeap, I guess all that research is being done by the 2nd tier of academia.

I wonder, just wonder if the top people would want to be where the most research is being done. Maybe. Maybe the Ivy's, U of Boston, MIT and some of the other AAU schools is where the top people are. I guess not because no one would want to be anywhere other than in the big cities.

Ok. Sounds about right.

I think researchers want to be where the research is being done. If that is in the large city fine, but if not then saddle up that horse and lets ride.

I am simply telling you that when someone has a chance to get out of Indiana for a similar job in the northeast, they take it. Don't understand why you're upset at this. It happens over and over and over again.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Faculty do not move to new positions as easily as people do in the business world. It's not the same thing. Once you build your program or research project, it takes some doing to bring everything with you to a new place.

That being said, I look at lower tier schools like Iona or Pratt in NYC grabbing the top people from Minnesota or Iowa, or a place like U. I. Chicago or Loyola, Chicago nabbing stars in small towns, and it's hard not to draw conclusions (I mentioned Pratt because of a recent move by someone).

So faculty doesn't move, but when top faculty does move, your experience suggests 100% will move to cities because a friend of yours moved from Iowa to Pratt.
Hmmmmm.

 

[Marty Jackson]

I am simply telling you that when someone has a chance to get out of Indiana for a similar job in the northeast, they take it. Don't understand why you're upset at this. It happens over and over and over again.

And yet for every job that comes to the northeast, 5 go down south.

 

[upstater]

And yet for every job that comes to the northeast, 5 go down south.

Again, academia.

 

[upstater]

So faculty doesn't move, but when top faculty does move, your experience suggests 100% will move to cities because a friend of yours moved from Iowa to Pratt.
Hmmmmm.

Why else would you move to Pratt?
Seriously, it wasn't a friend of mine. It was a top person in their field, and it happens all the time. You guys act like this is a revelation or something. It's common. And, no, I'm not saying people will leave Indiana so they can do nothing at Pratt. I am saying that, all else being equal, they will leave Indiana for a better place where they can do the same research even if the school's rep isn't better or worse than Indiana. In other words, they'll leave Indiana for Rutgers or Maryland.

 

[progrocks]

From my understanding, the difference in why people are moving to crap schools in urban areas is not always where they want to be, but their spouse. Being in a small town is limiting employment, and more following spouses work these days, and you sacrifice for family. I knew many in Bloomington who had to work in Indy, which was over an hour away with some picky cops in some horrible towns.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Can anyone provide anything, anything at all which would suggest these WVU guys predicted anything that wasn't common knowledge when they tweeted?
I don't think so. So why would they have any information now?

 

[specialisthusky]

Can anyone provide anything, anything at all which would suggest these WVU guys predicted anything that wasn't common knowledge when they tweeted?
I don't think so. So why would they have any information now?

Are you convincing us or yourself? Its just fun to see what the goon squad is saying. Put no stock in their fiction. These guys obviously have no credibility.

 

[jostar1]

MH3‏@MH37h
Ok I've sat on this for weeks now. I've sat through all these laughable TX rumors and haven't spilled it yet. GOR is not ironclad.

Ringneck85‏@Ringneck857h
@MH3 Who's GOR is not ironclad? B12 or ACC? Or both?

MH3‏@MH37h
@Ringneck85 All of them. The BiG10 knows it and are prepared to say as much.

Ringneck85‏@Ringneck857h
@MH3 so then what value do UConn and UVA have over UT and another? Hearing AAU is a must.

MH3‏@MH37h
It's not TX that the BiG has been HEAVILY courting though. Not B12 either.

MH3‏@MH320m
@jfournet @Iamgrizzly1974 no offense to Houston but B10 wouldn't settle for anything in that state that isn't a&m or UT

MH3‏@MH36h
16 seems to be what they have decided on

MH3‏@MH36h
One of the schools I've heard that is a heavy favorite is not currently in the p5. The other resides in the south but not the Deep South

AJ Tech‏@tech_aj2m
@MHver3 My thought was UConn as the non-P5 to really solidify NYC and reach into NE. Supposedly close to AAU levels.

MH3‏@MH35m
@tech_aj I think Uconn will end up plugging a hole left by an ACC defector

MH3‏@MH32m
@Iamgrizzly1974 problem is UVA spurned the B10 openly and cut off talks abruptly when ACC went GOR. #burnedbridges

Brent Fournet‏@jfournet21m
@MH3 @tech_aj BYU? That is the only P5 team that can bring a national audience, and there football is mediocre

MH3‏@MH319m
@jfournet @tech_aj last hint: not BYU.

 

[SubbaBub]

Someone should tell that jackwagon that MD and RU are already in the B1G.

Non P5, south but not deep south...what a .

 

[DarthGrumpy]

UConn competes with the Giants, Pats, Jets, Knicks, Nets, Celtics, Bruins, Rangers, Islanders and whatever out of market NFL team people may like for whatever reason for eyeballs, wallets, and attention during football/basketball season.

That is why I said technically. In the Hartford/New Haven DMA, there are no pro sport franchises. In the two DMA’s that UConn wants to be closely associated with, NYC and Boston, there are. I am sure that Indiana sports also has to compete with the pro teams out of Chicago, too.

 

[Revrat]

I think everyone is overlooking the fact that Notre Dame is not Power 5 in football and that's what he was referring to being Petrino-like int hat they will never play a game in the ACC for their other sports. Just my guess though as to what that is trying to say since he also keeps saying that UCONN is ACC filler.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV40m
New details from one of my best B1G sources. B1G narrows focus to 5 potential schools. Details Soon.

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV27m
Odd as it sounds the U of Houston is now on the B1G radar. Don’t shoot me I’m just passing it along.

Let me get this straight. The B1G fought an internal war over inviting Nebraska due to its ‘weak’ academics (US News #101, currently lowest in the B1G ) and pending loss of AAU status even in the face of a bonfire football powerhouse in terms of brand and money. Now, their next move is to add Houston, which, at best is the 7th at best athletic brand in Texas (1- U Texas, 2 – Texas A&M, 3 – TCU, 4 – Baylor, 5 – Texas Tech, 6 – SMU) and offers no money, some periodic athletic success separated by decades of failure, and no academics as they are ranked #184, which is lower than Louisville, WVU and both USF and UCF (but is higher than Memphis and ECU). If the B1G wants Houston that bad, it would be easier to rebuild Rice’s football team since they already are well established academically (US News #17).

I need a drink…

 

[upstater]

Let me get this straight. The B1G fought an internal war over inviting Nebraska due to its ‘weak’ academics (US News #101, currently lowest in the B1G ) and pending loss of AAU status even in the face of a bonfire football powerhouse in terms of brand and money. Now, their next move is to add Houston, which, at best is the 7th at best athletic brand in Texas (1- U Texas, 2 – Texas A&M, 3 – TCU, 4 – Baylor, 5 – Texas Tech, 6 – SMU) and offers no money, some periodic athletic success separated by decades of failure, and no academics as they are ranked #184, which is lower than Louisville, WVU and both USF and UCF (but is higher than Memphis and ECU). If the B1G wants Houston that bad, it would be easier to rebuild Rice’s football team since they already are well established academically (US News #17).

I need a drink…

But, the internal war over Nebraska had nothing to do with football. Everyone was on board and happy to invite Nebraska into the B1G. The internal war pitted PSU, Northwestern and Illinois (Nebraska's AAU backers) against Michigan and Wisconsin. One of the presidents off-the-record said that Nebraska's AAU status never came up once in the discussion to add them to the B1G. I'm not sure if that's because they didn't really care or because everyone knew there was behind the scenes treachery going on. I suspect it's the former because the emails that were sent just prior to the AAU vote (AFTER Nebraska had already been admitted to the B1G) expressed huge surprise that Michigan and Wisky had the votes to oust Nebraska from the AAU.