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[TerryD]

I think everyone is overlooking the fact that Notre Dame is not Power 5 in football and that's what he was referring to being Petrino-like int hat they will never play a game in the ACC for their other sports. Just my guess though as to what that is trying to say since he also keeps saying that UCONN is ACC filler.

If that is what he is referring to, this is another example of him being out of his mind and throwing totally improbable crap against the wall.

ND sees joining the Big Ten as the absolute worst case scenario for it in conference realignment.

It will do almost anything to avoid such a fate.

It signed a GOR (except for hockey and football) for its 24 ACC sports and also agreed to the $50 million ACC buyout because its current status with the ACC affiliation/hockey in Hockey East and football indy is exactly where it wants to be.

Any scenario that has ND willingly joining the Big Ten is pure BS fantasy.

 

[IMind]

If ND were going to join the B1G they would have done it years ago. Why would they want to be just another Indiana school in the B1G?

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I've always thought Virginia Tech was a dark horse candidate for the B1G.

Even though UVA is the flagship, VT is a big time football program that would command the Virginia market.

Vanderbilt though? No way in hell. I'd even wager we'd get into the B1G before them.

 

[UConn Dan]

Vanderbilt though? No way in hell. I'd even wager we'd get into the B1G before them.

I don't think the B1G would take Vandy, but they did do "research" on Vandy though -- from a credible reporter, Berry Tramel at The Oklahoman newspaper. Well, more credible than WV bloggers and twits.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Beaufort County. Greenville is the best place in the state to get a decent job. Charleston imo has real good potential now that Boeing has decided to make SC Boeing East. Not sure of the specifics of the job market. I will say Charleston has a lot to offer for a small city. It get lots of recognition on the national level and even with that I don't think it has hit its potential.

My parents live near Beaufort, which is a really nice town. Charleston is a great small city and so is Savannah. Plus Hilton Head has some things to offer as well. If the job markets allowed telecommuting to most jobs, Charleston would and should attract a lot of people.

 

[woomba]

I don't think the B1G would take Vandy, but they did do "research" on Vandy though -- from a credible reporter, Berry Tramel at The Oklahoman newspaper. Well, more credible than WV bloggers and twits.

Nashville ranks high in the list of cities that Big Ten alums flock to that's not currently in the footprint so I can sort of see the logic - obviously wouldn't be an athletics based add if it ever comes to fruition.

 

[ScottBonz]

Beaufort County. Greenville is the best place in the state to get a decent job. Charleston imo has real good potential now that Boeing has decided to make SC Boeing East. Not sure of the specifics of the job market. I will say Charleston has a lot to offer for a small city. It get lots of recognition on the national level and even with that I don't think it has hit its potential.

Visiting for 4 days in October. Staying in a BnB downtown. Girlfriend wants to move their one day.

 

[Husky92]

I've always thought Virginia Tech was a dark horse candidate for the B1G.

Even though UVA is the flagship, VT is a big time football program that would command the Virginia market.

I have a lot of family in VA. While UVA is the "flagship", Tech is a larger school and has more alumni throughout the state. I also believe their fans are more rabid (I have two family members who graduated V.Tech, one who is a seson ticket holder). They are the better football school IMHO, and not too shabby academically either.

 

[jostar1]

I think everyone is overlooking the fact that Notre Dame is not Power 5 in football and that's what he was referring to being Petrino-like int hat they will never play a game in the ACC for their other sports. Just my guess though as to what that is trying to say since he also keeps saying that UCONN is ACC filler.

Apparently he was referring to Missouri:

MH3‏@MH31h
@Ringneck85 Mizzou is one of the three. I'll give you that one.

Ringneck85‏@Ringneck851h
@MH3 Missouri, Kansas and Vandy

Ringneck85‏@Ringneck851h
@MH3 wouldn't that make Mizzou the Bobby Petrino?

MH3‏@MH31h
@Ringneck85 yes

 

[Fairfield 1st]

MH is lightin it up today. Too many tweets to copy, but essence is that they are talking Army to the AAC to fill UCONN's spot when we move to a P5... Hilarious!

 

[jostar1]

MH3‏@MH32h
Ok, so the idea is that this "merger" would make AAC or MWC DOA. AAC name and ncaa credits would be retained.

MH3‏@MH32h
The list I promised from the AAC/MWC teams that met last week:

MH3‏@MH32h
AAC: Uconn, ECU, USF, UCF, Temple, Memphis, Navy MWC: SDSU, UH, SMU, Fresno, UNLV, Air Force, and Colorado St.

MH3‏@MH32h
Oh yeah, Boise was there too. Didn't mean to leave you guys out! 15 schools.

MH3‏@MH32h
Yeah I flubbed my list. Lol. Those were the divisions proposed. Lol.

MH3‏@MH32h
With BSU in the West as well and an open slot in the east for Cincy if they stay. If they don't Tulane is in

MH3‏@MH32h
Also the idea was to leave enough room to add a MAC school or two maybe

MH3‏@MH32h
@Jeffery_Cobb UC is on deck for a B12 invite along with BYU if D4 requires CCg. Which it is looking to be true.

1. Ringneck85‏@Ringneck852h
2. @MH3 where does Cincy fit in all of this? B12?
4. MH3‏@MH32h

• @Ringneck85 that's the plan. This conference would be backup. They didn't attend meeting but were on the phone for some of it

1. 1. 
      MH3‏@MH32h
      The fact that Cincy didnt attend and Uconn did tells me a lot though.

1. MH3‏@MH32h
   Schools left out would get MWC credits and exit fee money which would be split by all merging schools.
3. MH3‏@MH32h
   Ok, so the idea is that this "merger" would make AAC or MWC DOA. AAC name and ncaa credits would be retained.

ucf primetimer‏@knightbengal2h
@MH3 @CoogsHouse13 would this be a sixth conference for d4? Better tv deal?

MH3‏@MH32h
@knightbengal @coogshouse13 yes and yes. I believe it could get a little closer to the tv payout the BigEast had per school.

2. MH3‏@MH32h
   There is a possibility that Uconn could get a P5 invite and another at those meetings as well.

MH3‏@MH32h
They like to add a NY school as well and may if Uconn becomes unavailable.

ucf primetimer‏@knightbengal2h
@MH3 so Ucf usf are not up for b12 in your opinion

MH3‏@MH32h
@knightbengal I wish they were but I detailed why they are not in a tweet last night.

JMF‏@GOZZER5132h
@MH3 in your opinion or based off what you've heard, what's the time frame that BIG12 makes the move to add?

MH3‏@MH32h
@GOZZER513 IF we add, it will be after P5 has decided on rules for D4 but probably before D4 is official.

 

[CL82]

People in the conference that are privy to such information.

I wouldn't think you'd regard that as a big secret though.

So no source...ah okay.

 

[jostar1]

Wow, does that board make you appreciate this forum or what? What a pain to read through a discussion.

Change the display to Linear Mode.

 

[kyleslamb]

So no source...ah okay.

There are others on this board that can vouch for my credentials if you are trying to make this into a credibility issue. I covered Ohio State for nearly seven years and have a lot of friends in the media and that work in athletics.

Here is what I posted on Oct. 5, 2011 on the Syracuse board about Rutgers and Maryland:

"Personally I'm not sure I believe the Missouri offer. For a variety of reasons, I've begun the belief the Big Ten will let Missouri go to the SEC and not necessarily because of a lack of interest. I just think they're committed to staying the course and they're fine with Rutgers and Maryland joining Notre Dame and Texas, if that's how it all shakes out."

http://syracusefan.com/threads/greg-swaim.3705/#post-34716

Keep in mind, the Big Ten was chasing Notre Dame and Texas at the time (which obviously didn't materialize). Point is, I had Rutgers and Maryland as a combination a year before it happened.

 

[FDNY99]

My parents live near Beaufort, which is a really nice town. Charleston is a great small city and so is Savannah. Plus Hilton Head has some things to offer as well. If the job markets allowed telecommuting to most jobs, Charleston would and should attract a lot of people.

That's cool...My wife and I will be moving (retiring I should say) to Horry County/Myrtle Beach area in about 8 or 9 years. Looking for a lot now...you can get a lot for your money in that part of SC.

 

[UConn Dan]

There are others on this board that can vouch for my credentials if you are trying to make this into a credibility issue. I covered Ohio State for nearly seven years and have a lot of friends in the media and that work in athletics.

Here is what I posted on Oct. 5, 2011 on the Syracuse board about Rutgers and Maryland:

"Personally I'm not sure I believe the Missouri offer. For a variety of reasons, I've begun the belief the Big Ten will let Missouri go to the SEC and not necessarily because of a lack of interest. I just think they're committed to staying the course and they're fine with Rutgers and Maryland joining Notre Dame and Texas, if that's how it all shakes out."

http://syracusefan.com/threads/greg-s .3705/#post-34716

Keep in mind, the Big Ten was chasing Notre Dame and Texas at the time (which obviously didn't materialize). Point is, I had Rutgers and Maryland as a combination a year before it happened.

I can vouch for Kyle -- he's legit. Like with FrankTheTank, I don't always agree with his opinions but he's got a real pulse as opposed to the sham WV crew.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Nashville ranks high in the list of cities that Big Ten alums flock to that's not currently in the footprint so I can sort of see the logic - obviously wouldn't be an athletics based add if it ever comes to fruition.

If Vandy does leave the SEC the charade of being an affiliation of University's could end. They we then be accepted into the NFL.
At least their players will have union representation.

 

[sportsart]

There are others on this board that can vouch for my credentials if you are trying to make this into a credibility issue. I covered Ohio State for nearly seven years and have a lot of friends in the media and that work in athletics.

Here is what I posted on Oct. 5, 2011 on the Syracuse board about Rutgers and Maryland:

"Personally I'm not sure I believe the Missouri offer. For a variety of reasons, I've begun the belief the Big Ten will let Missouri go to the SEC and not necessarily because of a lack of interest. I just think they're committed to staying the course and they're fine with Rutgers and Maryland joining Notre Dame and Texas, if that's how it all shakes out."

http://syracusefan.com/threads/greg-s .3705/#post-34716

Keep in mind, the Big Ten was chasing Notre Dame and Texas at the time (which obviously didn't materialize). Point is, I had Rutgers and Maryland as a combination a year before it happened.

Ok, so I'm a believer. Can you give us your feelings, vibes and beliefs on how all this might shake out?

 

[kyleslamb]

Ok, so I'm a believer. Can you give us your feelings, vibes and beliefs on how all this might shake out?

There are too many moving parts to really know. I do know the Big Ten has always kept Texas within shouting distance and there are substantial reasons to believe they're still on speed dial. The Big Ten has always planned to wind up between 16-20 teams once it made the decision to take Rutgers and Maryland. So from that standpoint, I do not believe they're done for a second and they don't believe the Grant of Rights would stop them from taking someone if they want them badly enough.

They still crave a bigger presence along the coast. I think when all is said and done they'll make another run at some folks from the Big 12 (Texas, Oklahoma and/or Kansas) and another run at some Eastern entities (North Carolina, Virginia and Georgia Tech, Florida State or Connecticut). Notre Dame would still be taken if they see the ACC being invaded and decide to join, but I think the Big Ten has moved beyond actively pursing them. Some people say Missouri is still on the radar but I'm skeptical for several reasons. I do think the Big Ten will absolutely have, at very least, teams 15 & 16 in place before the fall of 2015 (when they go to negotiate their tier-1/2 rights). From what I hear, it's very possible we see some more realignment activity this upcoming spring. That is my guess for when the Big Ten will start rattling trees again. That would allow them to make another run in 2015 if they decide to go out to 18-20.

 

[Exit 4]

There are too many moving parts to really know. I do know the Big Ten has always kept Texas within shouting distance and there are substantial reasons to believe they're still on speed dial. The Big Ten has always planned to wind up between 16-20 teams once it made the decision to take Rutgers and Maryland. So from that standpoint, I do not believe they're done for a second and they don't believe the Grant of Rights would stop them from taking someone if they want them badly enough.

They still crave a bigger presence along the coast. I think when all is said and done they'll make another run at some folks from the Big 12 (Texas, Oklahoma and/or Kansas) and another run at some Eastern entities (North Carolina, Virginia and Georgia Tech, Florida State or Connecticut). Notre Dame would still be taken if they see the ACC being invaded and decide to join, but I think the Big Ten has moved beyond actively pursing them. Some people say Missouri is still on the radar but I'm skeptical for several reasons. I do think the Big Ten will absolutely have, at very least, teams 15 & 16 in place before the fall of 2015 (when they go to negotiate their tier-1/2 rights). From what I hear, it's very possible we see some more realignment activity this upcoming spring. That is my guess for when the Big Ten will start rattling trees again. That would allow them to make another run in 2015 if they decide to go out to 18-20.

And what is the argument for getting bigger? Surely they view it as accretive for their bottomline, but is their another angle? Improved stability and protection against long term geo & socio-economics changes to the US?

 

[huskymedic]

From a Dan Wolken (USA Today) convo today:

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken 7h
Best answer at this point, which takes care of D1 separation, is 4 leagues of 20. 10 per side, no FB crossover. League champ games = QFs

Dan Wolken‏@DanWolken 7h
@TylerDawgden Sure but I think there's about 80 programs that have the resources and desire to truly be at the highest level.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken 7h
@TylerDawgden Current P5 plus Notre Dame and BYU plus best of AAC/MWC gets you to 80 and there's a big drop off after that

One can dream....

 

[HuskyHawk]

From a Dan Wolken (USA Today) convo today:

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken 7h
Best answer at this point, which takes care of D1 separation, is 4 leagues of 20. 10 per side, no FB crossover. League champ games = QFs

Dan Wolken‏@DanWolken 7h
@TylerDawgden Sure but I think there's about 80 programs that have the resources and desire to truly be at the highest level.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken 7h
@TylerDawgden Current P5 plus Notre Dame and BYU plus best of AAC/MWC gets you to 80 and there's a big drop off after that

One can dream....

This is consistent with what I have always said. Four conferences of 16 leave too many schools out, which leads to political efforts, Congress and maybe the whole thing crashes and burns. If they are going to make a new club, they need to make it inclusive enough to avoid that. 80 is much more reasonable.

 

[ctchamps]

Visiting for 4 days in October. Staying in a BnB downtown. Girlfriend wants to move their one day.

Great time of year to visit. Hope the two of you enjoy it. I've sadly only gone up that way a little over a dozen times. If I was younger there would have been a lot of visits. College of Charleston is there. Lots of great restaurants. Great art and music scene. I wish I could give you some heads up but google things and ask the people that live there what are things to do. City is known for its warm reception to tourists.

 

[kyleslamb]

And what is the argument for getting bigger? Surely they view it as accretive for their bottomline, but is their another angle? Improved stability and protection against long term geo & socio-economics changes to the US?

I think the geo & socioeconomics are part of it, though I don't think they're as big a deal as people sometimes suggest. But yes, I think that's one of many factors. Revenue/stability is the biggest part with research collaboration and overall branding from coast to coast (which is helpful in a growing privatized R&D market) being the other main reasons.

 

[Husky92]

From a Dan Wolken (USA Today) convo today:

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken 7h
Best answer at this point, which takes care of D1 separation, is 4 leagues of 20. 10 per side, no FB crossover. League champ games = QFs

Dan Wolken‏@DanWolken 7h
@TylerDawgden Sure but I think there's about 80 programs that have the resources and desire to truly be at the highest level.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken 7h
@TylerDawgden Current P5 plus Notre Dame and BYU plus best of AAC/MWC gets you to 80 and there's a big drop off after that

One can dream....

I would jump on this in a heartbeat. It just makes too much sense!