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[upstater]

The problem with your assumption is that living in a large city is what everyone wants. The old saying "Different Strokes for Different Folks". I can't fault anyone for choosing to live where they do. We generally gravitate to what we know. There is always a percentage that really wants the opposite of that, but that is not the norm.

I was talking about faculty.

 

[GopherHawk]

I was talking about faculty.

Are you saying all "TOP" faculty want to live in large cities? Really?

 

[woomba]

This stuff is no more than fun with stats. GDP growth when your #1 industry is insurance and finance during the biggest financial meltdown since the Great Depression? It's meaningless. I spent the weekend at my brother's $850k shack (1200 sq.feet) in Westport. Ludicrously overpriced. You won't find anything like that in Indiana.

I was reacting to the comment that stated that Conn is part of a growing economy while Indiana is part of the "shrinking rust belt economy".

1. Connecticut's economy is strong - but by most measures it has peaked and is actually shrinking.

2. The rust belt economy may not be as robust as it once was in the era of big US Auto manufacturing, but it is continuing to grow at a respectable pace.

 

[CL82]

Not many public universities are Michigan (call it UVA, UCLA & Cal, maybe UNC, Wisconsin, Texas). That said, UConn is not at Indiana’s level (yet), even if US News ranks UConn higher (#63) than Indiana (#83).


· DMA – IU: Indianapolis #26, UConn: Hartford/New Haven #30

Really, the only advantages UConn has over Indiana is: women’s basketball, a D1 Hockey program, and UConn is a closer (140 miles) to its secondary TV market (NYC #1) than Indiana (230 miles) is to its (Chicago #3) and UConn also has a secondary TV market (Boston #7, 80 miles). UConn does have its immediate TV DMA to itself though as Indiana does have to compete with the Colts, Pacers and Purdue.

Interesting. A couple of thoughts.
Can't exclude the Fairfield county. It is instate and densely populated.
Need to 'time value' those IU championships vis a vis UConn's.

 

[upstater]

Are you saying all "TOP" faculty want to live in large cities? Really?

Yes. If by all you mean 99%

 

[upstater]

I was reacting to the comment that stated that Conn is part of a growing economy while Indiana is part of the "shrinking rust belt economy".

1. Connecticut's economy is strong - but by most measures it has peaked and is actually shrinking.

2. The rust belt economy may not be as robust as it once was in the era of big US Auto manufacturing, but it is continuing to grow at a respectable pace.

Connecticut's economy is essentially insurance and finance. If that sector has peaked, then you're right.

 

[Stinger92860]

Connecticut's economy is essentially insurance and finance. If that sector has peaked, then you're right.

And Hedge Funds

 

[ScottBonz]

@MHver3: Ok I've sat on this for weeks now. I've sat through all these laughable TX rumors and haven't spilled it yet. GOR is not ironclad.

@MHver3: It's not TX that the BiG has been HEAVILY courting though. Not B12 either.

@MHver3: It's not TX that the BiG has been HEAVILY courting though. Not B12 either.

@MHver3: It's not TX that the BiG has been HEAVILY courting though. Not B12 either.

@MHver3: And really that's all I can say

 

[junglehusky]

I'd have to agree, more or less, with upstater... Major universities' faculty members spend most of their career (after undergrad, which may have been a small liberal arts college) in big universities or in large cities. So their friends and peer networks are also mostly in cities and/or big universities. Of course many would be perfectly happy at the University of Maine or a small college in the rural midwest. My feeling is the most competitive, "top faculty" tend to gravitate to places like NYC, Boston, SF bay area, or Research Triangle Park in NC just because that's where their peers are.

 

[CL82]

Connecticut's economy is essentially insurance and finance. If that sector has peaked, then you're right.

Don't forget defense.

 

[Adios]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, UConn seems to be taking an approach in research to help create new sectors in the state.

And you cannot go wrong with hedge funds being part of the economy. No way.

 

[specialisthusky]

Mh3 had gone nuts on twitter today. Claiming one non power 5 team and one south but not deep south team being courted by B1G. I don't think any non p5 teams would need much courting, UCONN has got to be a pretty cheep date at this point.

Then again he is completely full of it and all but I like having hope.

 

[noeynox]

@ : Ok I've sat on this for weeks now. I've sat through all these laughable TX rumors and haven't spilled it yet. GOR is not ironclad.


@ : It's not TX that the BiG has been HEAVILY courting though. Not B12 either.

@ : It's not TX that the BiG has been HEAVILY courting though. Not B12 either.

@ : It's not TX that the BiG has been HEAVILY courting though. Not B12 either.

@ : And really that's all I can say

Reading through that, I can't help but think of that song "losing my religion". The line where the dude says I guess I said too much, I haven't said enough. Fits his timeline perfectly.

 

[CL82]

Mh3 had gone nuts on twitter today. Claiming one non power 5 team and one south but not deep south team being courted by B1G. I don't think any non p5 teams would need much courting, UCONN has got to be a pretty cheap date at this point.

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A bottle of mad dog and a movie rental ought to get it done at this point.

 

[woomba]

Probably talking about Vandy at this point. The scenario is unexciting but semi-plausible from Big Ten's perspective.

Not sure why Vandy would want to leave the SEC at this point though.

 

[Marty Jackson]

I'd have to agree, more or less, with upstater... Major universities' faculty members spend most of their career (after undergrad, which may have been a small liberal arts college) in big universities or in large cities. So their friends and peer networks are also mostly in cities and/or big universities. Of course many would be perfectly happy at the University of Maine or a small college in the rural midwest. My feeling is the most competitive, "top faculty" tend to gravitate to places like NYC, Boston, SF bay area, or Research Triangle Park in NC just because that's where their peers are.

I think the comment suggesting 99% if not all 'top' faculty want to be in cities is just wrong. There are too many top universities located away from major metropolitan cities for this to be true.
As in any industry, people have various reasons for living and working where they do. college professors are no different.

 

[Sea Goat]

Read excerpt below - the New Haven to Amherst Knowledge corridor is real and it is developing. In and of itself, it is drawing interest. This area is considered #2 as a "knowledge corridor" region behind Boston. UConn is very well positioned in this area anchored by Yale to the south and Amherst and UMass to the north, especially with its med school in Farmington and its law school and executive MBA program in Hartford.



The Knowledge Corridor, On Track

By Amanda Kennedy, Associate Planner, RPA Connecticut
By Amanda Kennedy, Associate Planner, RPA Connecticut
Here in the Connecticut office of RPA we find ourselves thinking more about the Hartford region, which while not technically part of RPA's traditional 31-county region, will soon get better rail service that links it more closely to Greater New York.
The Connecticut Department of Transportation has set a goal of 2016 for expanding rail service on the "Knowledge Corridor" between Springfield (MA), Hartford, and New Haven, with most trains in New Haven connecting to NYC-bound trains and a few continuing directly to New York City. Connecticut's only local rapid transit system will also be up and running, with the New Britain-Hartford Busway connecting downtown Hartford and its western suburbs.
Two weeks ago, about 90 people came together in Hartford, under a program set up by RPA's America 2050 initiative, to discuss the potential of these impending new connections. We organized the program with the assistance of Capitol Region Council of Governments and the Connecticut Chapter of Urban Land Institute, with funding from the Rockefeller and Surdna Foundations.
At the forum, experts in the field told us from their experiences improving regional rail corridors in Maine and California that economic benefits from rail service don't just happen. State, regional, and local leaders must aggressively market train services to multiple ridership segments, link trains with connecting local transit and push for ever-increasing frequencies, and get communities with stations actively involved in developing and maintaining their station areas. Partnerships need to be formed and nourish - between and among towns, state agencies, freight railroads, and the private sector - and rail lines need ongoing public and political support.
Patricia Quinn told us how towns with Downeaster service in Maine own and operate their train stations, giving them a vested interest in promoting ridership. Gene Skoropowski showed us incresed frequency on California's Capitol Corridor has nearly quadrupled ridership over 10 years, and getting legislators riding trains to the Capitol in Sacramento helped raise the profile of transit in California.
Greater Hartford is often described as an "economic cul-de-sac," which although close to both Boston and New York City, hasn't benefitted from the economic successes of either. Traffic congestion in I-95 and lack of transit options has made it difficult for residents living in the I-91 corridor to get to jobs on Connecticut's southwest coast, exacerbating the problems of affordable housing in Fairfield County and unemployment in Connecticut's interior.
I probably see the potential for a better-connected state more than most – I'm a Knowledge Corridor baby, having grown up just outside of Springfield and having spent about 8 years of my adult life in either Hartford or New Haven.
The region stretches from New Haven to Springfield (and beyond to Northampton and Amherst, MA) and is Connecticut's second largest concentration of jobs and population, after Fairfield County. Region promoters coined the "Knowledge Corridor" moniker due to its concentration of colleges and universities, and it's an appropriate nickname. Our research in advance of the program showed us that the corridor specializes in knowledge industries such as precision manufacturing, defense, insurance and financial services, education, and renewable energy.
Also called the Connecticut River Valley, it's home to the state's largest center of employment, Hartford, with over 100,000 jobs within city limits.New Haven has gained over 6,000 residents over the last 10 years, more than any other Connecticut city or town. Its polar opposite, Springfield, is just coming out of an economic crisis and now faces recovery from destructive tornados that hit the week of our conference.
Over the next few months, RPA will be compiling what we learned at the forum and from our work elsewhere into a guide for the region and towns of the New Haven/Hartford/Springfield corridor to follow as they plan development and promote ridership. All the pieces will need to fall in place - leadership at the state level, cooperation of station towns, and coordinated land use and local transit services - in order for rail to transform the region's economy. But the combined efforts of the Malloy administration and of local municipal leaders (many of whom were in attendance at our program) can and should put the Knowledge Corridor on the right track.


© 2013 Regional Plan Association | Site by CivicActions

 

[noeynox]

Probably talking about Vandy at this point. The scenario is unexciting but semi-plausible from Big Ten's perspective.

Not sure why Vandy would want to leave the SEC at this point though.

Probably talking out of his ass, is,more like it.

 

[kyleslamb]

...and how do you know that 'for certain?'

People in the conference that are privy to such information.

I wouldn't think you'd regard that as a big secret though.

 

[Adios]

We organized the program with the assistance of Capitol Region Council of Governments and the Connecticut Chapter of Urban Land Institute, with funding from the Rockefeller and Surdna Foundations.

Rockefeller? John D. Rockefeller founded the University of Chicago in 1890 and won a national championship in football within 15 years.

We're going to the B1G!

 

[upstater]

I think the comment suggesting 99% if not all 'top' faculty want to be in cities is just wrong. There are too many top universities located away from major metropolitan cities for this to be true.
As in any industry, people have various reasons for living and working where they do. college professors are no different.

Faculty do not move to new positions as easily as people do in the business world. It's not the same thing. Once you build your program or research project, it takes some doing to bring everything with you to a new place.

That being said, I look at lower tier schools like Iona or Pratt in NYC grabbing the top people from Minnesota or Iowa, or a place like U. I. Chicago or Loyola, Chicago nabbing stars in small towns, and it's hard not to draw conclusions (I mentioned Pratt because of a recent move by someone).

 

[ctchamps]

...except that Conn is ranked last in GDP growth the past 2-3 years while the "rust belt" is growing on pace of the overall US economy and faster than the southeastern states.

Edit: Spelling errors.

Yes but what took place the previous four years!

 

[pj]

Are you saying all "TOP" faculty want to live in large cities? Really?

Yes. If by all you mean 99%

The University of Illinois used to recruit faculty from the University of Chicago by telling them that Urbana-Champaign was a much better place for getting work done. There was nothing to do but work!

 

[pj]

And you cannot go wrong with hedge funds being part of the economy. No way.

I don't know if this was intended to be a joke, but it's pretty funny!

 

[GopherHawk]

Faculty do not move to new positions as easily as people do in the business world. It's not the same thing. Once you build your program or research project, it takes some doing to bring everything with you to a new place.

That being said, I look at lower tier schools like Iona or Pratt in NYC grabbing the top people from Minnesota or Iowa, or a place like U. I. Chicago or Loyola, Chicago nabbing stars in small towns, and it's hard not to draw conclusions (I mentioned Pratt because of a recent move by someone).

So, let me get this straight. The top faculty don't want to live and work outside of large cities. I see, that means no top faculty ever want to live anywhere other than the large metro areas. Yeah, I suppose. I guess the people left in Iowa City, Madison, Champaign-Urbana, Bloomington, Lansing, Ann Arbor, Happy Valley, Lincoln, Lawerence, Boulder, Lafayette, South Bend and others are the people that couldn't get jobs in the Northeast. Yeap, I guess all that research is being done by the 2nd tier of academia.

I wonder, just wonder if the top people would want to be where the most research is being done. Maybe. Maybe the Ivy's, U of Boston, MIT and some of the other AAU schools is where the top people are. I guess not because no one would want to be anywhere other than in the big cities.

Ok. Sounds about right.

I think researchers want to be where the research is being done. If that is in the large city fine, but if not then saddle up that horse and lets ride.