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New PAC-12 Forming

What is interesting about the Pac 12 and MWC conference shuffles is that it may create more opportunity for UConn to schedule football games as an independent. Washington St. and Oregon St. are going from a 9 game conference schedule in the Pac 12 to potentially a 7 game schedule. And the defectors to the Pac 12 and MWC as well as the remaining members of the MWC could be going from an 8 game conference schedule down to a 7 game conference schedule.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Fit would include money, too right?
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Yep as I also posted last week in a different thread, " show me the money" if the PAC is scrambling for members with all the current no's from AAC schools. Uconn's future schedules doesn't mean the new PAC-12 has all the leverage. The Indy schedule is more than fine.... Uconn doesn't need to beg in this scenario, like in it's CR past. This needs to be a calculated leverage play by AD DB this time around as he still can play it off as he's holding some of the cards. ( which he is.... and also since Yormark loves us ;) ) P.S. a low exit fee should be included too, just in case.
 
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If the PAC did pull this off, it could be a "next best scenario" for Uconn money wise and also for fit. With the PAC creating an AAC type formation. 11 full schools with Uconn (a FB only) and the Zags (a hoops only). Similar to the set up the AAC had with Navy (FB) and Wichita St (BB) and 12 in each sport. Then Uconn sits in the best non P-4 conferences in both sports until they don't. Not holding my breath but....

 
To quote Pink Floyd, "The Dream is gone...I have become Comfortably Dumb."

The fact that I really dont care about Amore's article says it all.

Plus, UConn football TV right might actually be worth almost as much as the P12 rights if you subtract travel from the P12 rights and also the basketball away games (or games) from the UConn ADs finances.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
That was in my original comment - the money or grant rights must have been awful - just to say it's not a fit I don't buy or understand.

Is playing Colorado State any less of a fit than playing Rice?
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It doesn't mean the money was awful, just not good enough to outweigh the negatives (and there are lots of negatives to join this conference for football). Saying fit is a smart way of saying no.
 
Blades said:
If the PAC did pull this off, it could be a "next best scenario" for Uconn money wise and also for fit. With the PAC creating an AAC type formation. 11 full schools with Uconn (a FB only) and the Zags (a hoops only). Similar to the set up the AAC had with Navy (FB) and Wichita St (BB) and 12 in each sport. Then Uconn sits in the best non P-4 conferences in both sports until they don't. Not holding my breath but....

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This is what I envisioned at the start as well. If they circle back and go after AAC schools again, then this is their ultimate goal. It makes sense to have a national conference just to maximize media revenue, and have more expansion targets in the future if needed.
 
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WestCoastHusky said:
Not sure what this is about, but here it is this morning.

dailycampus.com

UConn football in talks to join the Pac-12

Over one year ago, the disintegration of the Pac-12 began and every Power Five conference, except the Pac-12, secured a new long-term TV rights deal. This negatively impacted the conference, pushin…
dailycampus.com dailycampus.com
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Seems like the article is already outdated because the Courant story came out yesterday saying that UConn declined joining the Pac because it isn't a good fit.
 
That Daily Campus article is just a re
jostar1 said:
Seems like the article is already outdated because the Courant story came out yesterday saying that UConn declined joining the Pac because it isn't a good fit.
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Agreed. Seems a student writer with just one other UConn football article. Not terribly written, but it's nothing we didn't already know.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
This is what I envisioned at the start as well. If they circle back and go after AAC schools again, then this is their ultimate goal. It makes sense to have a national conference just to maximize media revenue, and have more expansion targets in the future if needed.
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This would be good for UConn if the Pac could achieve it. I wonder why UConn sources were so quick to say that they weren't joining the Pac if there is a chance that the Pac could circle back on the AAC schools and get them to join.

The story by Don Amore cited "UConn sources, requesting anonymity, told The Courant the university doesn’t consider this the right fit at this time". Note that nothing was said publicly by David Benedict.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Not sure what this is about, but here it is this morning.

dailycampus.com

UConn football in talks to join the Pac-12

Over one year ago, the disintegration of the Pac-12 began and every Power Five conference, except the Pac-12, secured a new long-term TV rights deal. This negatively impacted the conference, pushin…
dailycampus.com dailycampus.com
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Wow. Tyler Purnue or whatever the author's name is, doesn't seem to follow sports at all, or at least he has absolutely no clue about conference realignment.

"In the past, the Huskies struggled to generate success in the American Athletic Conference and exited their contract early." That sentence doesn't mean anything, Tyler.

Then there's this one: "When leaving the AAC early, UConn paid $17 million due to the football team’s poor performance." Uhhh, what?

I get that it's a kid doing the article, but have some personal pride and at least have a vague understanding of what's going on.

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that the article went to press prior to the release of last nights Hartford Courant article indicating at the school is not interested in joining the PAC-2.
 
If they can get Memphis on board, it's a pretty decent conference.
 
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Uconn should still explore a scheduling alliance with pac schools. Give us 2 fball games, we'll give you 2 bball games. Give us 3 fball games, we'll give you three bball games.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
It doesn't mean the money was awful, just not good enough to outweigh the negatives (and there are lots of negatives to join this conference for football). Saying fit is a smart way of saying no.
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I'm still curious as to what the perceived negatives are excluding a grant of rights.

We make next to $0 on our current tv deal, have no bowl affiliation, don't have access or representation to the CFP, play a mishmash schedule of teams and dates, have no league title to compete for, and with most leagues increasing conference games were afforded less scheduling opportunities.

Edit: no bowl game affiliations either.
 
jostar1 said:
This would be good for UConn if the Pac could achieve it. I wonder why UConn sources were so quick to say that they weren't joining the Pac ......The Courant the university doesn’t consider this the right fit at this time". Note that nothing was said publicly by David Benedict.
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Public negotiation by leaking one parties position out isn't the worse thing. If done by the right people at the right time. Another irony regarding the above set up is that in an alternate reality it could have been San Diego St and Boise St. as FB only(s)....:D

 
ConnHuskBask said:
I'm still curious as to what the perceived negatives are excluding a grant of rights.

We make next to $0 on our current tv deal, have no bowl affiliation, don't have access or representation to the CFP, play a mishmash schedule of teams and dates, have no league title to compete for, and with most leagues increasing conference games were afforded less scheduling opportunities.
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Hopefully, we’re going to find out that we have other options. Otherwise, playing football in the Pac 12 makes a lot of sense at this point in time.
 
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Hoophound said:
Hopefully, we’re going to find out that we have other options. Otherwise, playing football in the Pac 12 makes a lot of sense at this point in time.
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Totally agree. Football independence for UConn is awful, if we turned down the PAC hopefully something better is on the horizon, and hopefully that better horizon isn't the ACC stringing us along for another 10 years.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
I'm still curious as to what the perceived negatives are excluding a grant of rights.

We make next to $0 on our current tv deal, have no bowl affiliation, don't have access or representation to the CFP, play a mishmash schedule of teams and dates, have no league title to compete for, and with most leagues increasing conference games were afforded less scheduling opportunities.

Edit: no bowl game affiliations either.
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I think it is mostly GOR and exit fees. also, though, as things stand now, the value of any PAC -12 media deal is speculative, at best. (For what it's worth we actually make $500,000 on our current TV contract for football.)
 
Who knows?

Predictably I didn’t care yesterday when it broke.

If Independence and being strung along by the Big 12 is preferable to what the PAC 12 was offering then what was on the table wasn’t worth it.
 
CL82 said:
I think it is mostly GOR and exit fees. also, though, as things stand now, the value of any PAC -12 media deal is speculative, at best. (For what it's worth we actually make $500,000 on our current TV contract for football.)
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I recall the CBS SN deal paying something akin to "upwards" of $100K per home game. I guess since they don't cover the FCS game it's somewhere around the $500K you mention.

Did we ever find out if that deal is going to be renewed?
 
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