Advanced. That's the key word. They have.
We're com paring the whole league for heaven's sake. This is the most ridiculous argument
Quit while your behind. Being willing to sacrifice the whole athletic department for this PAC 12 is certainly an argument that no sane UConn fan would make
I’m not advocating that at all. I’m saying the PAC is seeking to become the non P4 power conference in basketball, a position currently held by the New Big East. I think the combination of members plus having a football league could enable them to succeed. I’m not convinced that the P2, never mind the P4 want more than 1 non-P4 basketball league. So I think this model could supplant the NEWBE. They will be the best G5 football league and a power hoop league. I don’t see a NEWBE program stepping up long term and we have 2 awful ones.
That depends on jow OSU and WSU feel about parting with it. I would definitely invest some of that money if the result was a viable conference .
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Keep up. We are not doing anything until B12 decides our fate
How? They have SDSU and Gonzaga. That’s a power play?
Ultimately that's why they're screwed to begin with. "Flavor" programs have no value in a hypermedia landscape
Lincoln, Nebraska is just as remote as those places. AAC got nothing with schools in Dallas, Orlando, Cincinnati, Philly, etc. It's the school following, not location that matters. Why bring-up the geography?
About a dozen years ago I saw an episode of the US version of Top Gear.
This is what makes me infuriated at this new P12 vs. G8 proposal in that Ore St and Wash St get to leverage their also-ran status as a former Px to be part of the P12 yet UConn, which was part of the BCS automatic qualification group (a quasi P6 before the term P5 became in vogue), gets relegated to the G8. To be fair, USF was also relegated, but I would argue they don't have champsionship caliber teams unless you count "Coed cheer team" (not knocking cheerleading, but compared to football, basketball, soccer, field hockey, etcs, it's more of a performance competition). I'm grateful Wash St. gave us Drew Bledsoe that helped the Patriots begin their dynasty, but its ludricrous to lump them into power status when they were discarded similar to us (in that our former conference mates traded up into P5 status).
Wasn't Temple also relegated?
For $80,000,000 to $100,000,000 you don’t ask where’s Lincoln , only when do you want me there.
I mean, UConn, Temple, and USF were part of the group calling the shots in basically the same scenario, no?
I didn't include Temple (perhaps somewhat arbitrarily) since they left the Big East after the 2004/2005 season and rejoined in the final 2012/2013 season (going independent then to the MAC in between); hence I went with continuity that USF had over Temple when the football Big East dissolved.
They have a cache of money, it's true, but would you argue that OSU and WSU should be part of the 72 while we get nudged out? Cuz though they have better football now, we have better basketball and a stronger national brand because of it, yet we won't be getting on that life raft that they've been tossed.
I agree and I am not trying to defend the PAC as a power conference. OSU and WSU are both currently 4-1. They have been members of the PAC for over 50 years. The PAC was the 2nd best conference last year behind the SEC by some measures, OSU was very good, and WSU just beat Washington. So to be fair, those two have earned some cred.
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