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NielsisGood said:
I dont think he's nearly as athletic as 3-4 years ago
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ahahahah. Dude, how much do you hate the guy?

I mean, if you had gone for, "he's not quite as," or maybe, "there's been a small dropoff," but, "not nearly as athletic" is tremendous!
 
imno1 said:
He just so much bigger but I wouldn't say he's more athletic
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This is a tough one. I think Jordan had the perfect body for basketball. At least for a shooting guard. So I think he's "more athletic" than the King in the sense that his body is more athletic playing basketball. But if I had to put money down on who would be a better golfer, baseball player, football player, and the like, I'd have to go with LBJ. The guy's hand eye coordination is tremendous, he's quick, aware, super strong, accurate passer. You could picture James being an NFL quarterback or a great serve and volley tennis player.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
If LeBron pulls this off there can be no doubt of where he ranks.
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I disagree. I think the Cavs are better this year than they were last year, and I think the Warriors are weaker. I know they added Durant, but only one guy can touch the ball at a time, and talent without chemistry looks better on paper than on the court. Add to that that the West was weaker this year than in quite some time - Clippers were crap, OKC lost Durant - throw in that GS has been playing broken teams for a month, and I think the Cavs path to win this year is easier than last year.
 
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MadDogRevival said:
Golden State is worse than they were last year. Start with that.
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We will have to disagree on that. They haven't had as much time to gell, but they are better. I agree the West is not as strong as the hype says, but this team has won 25 or their last 26. I want Cleveland to win, but odds favor GSW.

Losing to the Cavs This Year would also tarnish the title they won 2 years ago. Durant needs his first ring to complete his resume. They will be motivated. That said, I don't bet against Lebron.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
We will have to disagree on that. They haven't had as much time to gell, but they are better. I agree the West is not as strong as the hype says, but this team has won 25 or their last 26. I want Cleveland to win, but odds favor GSW.

Losing to the Cavs This Year would also tarnish the title they won 2 years ago. Durant needs his first ring to complete his resume. They will be motivated. That said, I don't bet against Lebron.
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I thought the Cavs got lucky last year. This is GS's title to lose.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I thought the Cavs got lucky last year. This is GS's title to lose.
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If Draymond Green doesn't kick someone in the nuts, the Warriors win.

This team is better than last year's team. When push comes to shove, they have someone who can get his own shot whenever he wants against anyone. They really didn't last year.
 
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MilliniumPrince said:
No one gets lucky in a best of 7 series.
I agree this is GSW to lose, but I hope LeBron pulls it off.
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Luck isn't quite right. Golden State's weakness last year was that Draymond did a poor job of containing himself. He literally kicked multiple players in the nuts. He did it again, he got punished. It helped the Cavs win Game 5 on the road when all the momentum was against them, and then they were able to win at home and force a game 6 where they really had no pressure.

Curry had also been hurt since the first round or so...and he never fully recovered, and that combination, plus his sloppiness with the ball (another minor weakness), allowed one of the best handful of players ever to do what they do: win games and series they shouldn't by sheer force of will.
 
MadDogRevival said:
ahahahah. Dude, how much do you hate the guy?

I mean, if you had gone for, "he's not quite as," or maybe, "there's been a small dropoff," but, "not nearly as athletic" is tremendous!
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I do hate LeBron but you'd have to be blind to not see that he's taken quite a big drop athletically from where he was 3-4 years ago. If anything it's more of a begrudging respect for LeBron to be putting up the kind of numbers he has this year while not being near his physical peak from a few years ago.
 
tzznandrew said:
If Draymond Green doesn't kick someone in the nuts, the Warriors win.

This team is better than last year's team. When push comes to shove, they have someone who can get his own shot whenever he wants against anyone. They really didn't last year.
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IMO Durant was the best player in the league this year before getting hurt. That combo between offensive efficiency and how great he was defensively this year all while playing within his team was amazing.

This year's GSW is the most loaded team probably in the history of the NBA. Durant and Curry are 2 ATG's in the prime of their careers, Draymond is a borderline top 10 player, and Klay is a top 15-20 guy who has the 2 most important skills you can have in today's NBA. Literally anyone on this forum could coach this team to 60+ wins and an NBA finals appearance (at a minimum).
 
NielsisGood said:
IMO Durant was the best player in the league this year before getting hurt. That combo between offensive efficiency and how great he was defensively this year all while playing within his team was amazing.

This year's GSW is the most loaded team probably in the history of the NBA. Durant and Curry are 2 ATG's in the prime of their careers, Draymond is a borderline top 10 player, and Klay is a top 15-20 guy who has the 2 most important skills you can have in today's NBA. Literally anyone on this forum could coach this team to 60+ wins and an NBA finals appearance (at a minimum).
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Agree with everything. It is preposterous to think this team is worse than last year when they had 1 weakness last year (a shot creator who could get a good percentage look whenever he wants) and KD is the best in the league at that.

As for anyone being able to coach this team - I agree, besides @JSM1970. I don't think he would give Draymond any burn. The team would still be pretty damn good.
 
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walker11 said:
Agree with everything. It is preposterous to think this team is worse than last year when they had 1 weakness last year (a shot creator who could get a good percentage look whenever he wants) and KD is the best in the league at that.

As for anyone being able to coach this team - I agree, besides @JSM1970. I don't think he would give Draymond any burn. The team would still be pretty damn good.
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There's no way anyone could think this year's team is worst than last year. They're probably not as well built for the regular season as last year and they definitely didn't burn themselves out to the extent that they did last year, but idk how anyone could think adding Durant to that core and having 4 legit studs that are all in their prime and can go 42ish minutes in a playoff game isn't the most ridiculous thing ever...
 
NielsisGood said:
I do hate LeBron but you'd have to be blind to not see that he's taken quite a big drop athletically from where he was 3-4 years ago. If anything it's more of a begrudging respect for LeBron to be putting up the kind of numbers he has this year while not being near his physical peak from a few years ago.
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As long as you acknowledge that his physical peak was so high, that this athletic drop off still puts ahead of the majority of guys in the league, considering his size/strength.
 
NielsisGood said:
I do hate LeBron but you'd have to be blind to not see that he's taken quite a big drop athletically from where he was 3-4 years ago.
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What are you saying, exactly? Jump, quickness, acceleration, speed, hand eye?
 
Bob Myers is a genius

He had limited resources after KD signing and surrounded it with very good role players at low #s

Guys like McGee, Clark, McCaw, Barnes, West, etc

These are the salaries of Golden State Warriors players this season

walker11 said:
Agree with everything. It is preposterous to think this team is worse than last year when they had 1 weakness last year (a shot creator who could get a good percentage look whenever he wants) and KD is the best in the league at that.

As for anyone being able to coach this team - I agree, besides @JSM1970. I don't think he would give Draymond any burn. The team would still be pretty damn good.
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NielsisGood said:
IMO Durant was the best player in the league this year before getting hurt. That combo between offensive efficiency and how great he was defensively this year all while playing within his team was amazing.

This year's GSW is the most loaded team probably in the history of the NBA. Durant and Curry are 2 ATG's in the prime of their careers, Draymond is a borderline top 10 player, and Klay is a top 15-20 guy who has the 2 most important skills you can have in today's NBA. Literally anyone on this forum could coach this team to 60+ wins and an NBA finals appearance (at a minimum).
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Klay might even be higher were he on a different team in which he was allowed to be unleashed.
 
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But, in fairness, he has a good story where he can attract guys who want to compete for a 'Ship

Not sure these guys would take the same $$ to go play for the Nets or Mavs this past year

Crazy trade thought -- would Denver take C's #1 for Jokic straight up? I'd make that call

intlzncster said:
He's the exact opposite of Presti. Dude was in damn near the same situation, and spit the bit.
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JSM1970 said:
But, in fairness, he has a good story where he can attract guys who want to compete for a 'Ship

Not sure these guys would take the same $$ to go play for the Nets or Mavs this past year

Crazy trade thought -- would Denver take C's #1 for Jokic straight up? I'd make that call
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I wouldn't if I'm Denver. Jokic is unique. Would love to see him play with Ball actually. Passing off the charts.
 
tzznandrew said:
Luck isn't quite right. Golden State's weakness last year was that Draymond did a poor job of containing himself. He literally kicked multiple players in the nuts. He did it again, he got punished. It helped the Cavs win Game 5 on the road when all the momentum was against them, and then they were able to win at home and force a game 6 where they really had no pressure.

Curry had also been hurt since the first round or so...and he never fully recovered, and that combination, plus his sloppiness with the ball (another minor weakness), allowed one of the best handful of players ever to do what they do: win games and series they shouldn't by sheer force of will.
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7 game series, Draymond played in 6, they lost 4....game 5 is just an excuse. They lost 3 games with Green and 2 at home (he played in 1).

If GSW wants to use Curry's alleged injury as an excuse for last year, they must accept a large asterisk for the title they won 2 years ago. Can't accept one without the other.
 
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This is the most despicable display in the entire crapfest of a postseason.

 
JSM1970 said:
Bob Myers is a genius

He had limited resources after KD signing and surrounded it with very good role players at low #s

Guys like McGee, Clark, McCaw, Barnes, West, etc

These are the salaries of Golden State Warriors players this season
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Add Zaza to your list. That said, it is no surprise that players who were mediocre role players on mediocre teams become much more useful when they are on amazing teams. Which makes it even more amazing to consider what Presti managed (or didn't manage) to do. I think you could put a ton of mediocre players on this roster who would look awesome in the situation.

And it is helpful when guys like West and Zaza turn down much more money to ring chase for the minimum. I do give the entire organization a lot of credit in the way they have developed Clark. He hasn't played much in the post season but he is a legitimately good NBA player who was undrafted out of Belmont and couldn't even stick with the Jazz. And McCaw already seems like a steal in the 2nd.
 
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