NBA Discussion 2016/2017

[JakeTheDog]

Slightly OT but where is a good place to get inexpensive NBA merch? Primarily looking for a couple t-shirts and maybe a hat. Thanks!

 

[Rocktheworld]

We can't let this thread get buried in the third page after a loss. In a season of at best silver linings, our vets will be the only bright spot we have right now.

Good line from Kemba tonight in a losing effort to the Spurs. Made Tony Parker look as old as he is. Turnovers hurt Charlotte tonight

Great line from Andre tonight considering how few minutes he has been playing. It's such a shame he can't play 30 minutes a game. His per 48 numbers are like 24 and 22.

Rudy led the Kings past playoff contender Toronto. 23 effiecient points, 9 boards 4 assists 1 steal 3 blocks... and 4 TOs

Bazz played 4 minutes (I'm guessing in garbage time) in a blowout loss to Cleveland. 1/2 from 3, 2 assists

 

[JSM1970]

what did the Bulls want for Butler again? Crowder, #3 and....?

Guy is a stud, don't want to wait to see if Jaylen Brown can play at a high level, seems like a good athlete with limited basketball skills. Not saying it's bust status yet, but many draft experts said he can't shoot, zero handle, etc..

 

[UConn990411]

what did the Bulls want for Butler again? Crowder, #3 and....?

Guy is a stud, don't want to wait to see if Jaylen Brown can play at a high level, seems like a good athlete with limited basketball skills. Not saying it's bust status yet, but many draft experts said he can't shoot, zero handle, etc..

Predictably terrible take from you on a 20-year-old Jaylen Brown. I'm sure it's based on about a 20-minute sample size, too.

 

[Walker11]

Predictably terrible take from you on a 20-year-old Jaylen Brown. I'm sure it's based on about a 20-minute sample size, too.

This guy has more usernames than good takes.

 

[JSM1970]

Yes, because we should always expect with hard work anyone can be the next MJ, Kobe or LeBron.

My point is I would have given up Crowder, #3 (Brown) and what else were they asking for for Butler.

You wouldn't?

Predictably terrible take from you on a 20-year-old Jaylen Brown. I'm sure it's based on about a 20-minute sample size, too.

 

[BUConn10]

Box score bozos who don't watch games have the best takes.

 

[Stainmaster]

Box score bozos who don't watch games have the best takes.

Especially the ones who also think that the 24-year-old NL MVP is overrated and a bust.

 

[JSM1970]

I said he's not worth $30M/year

I would have never drafted Brown and would have traded for Noel, Butler or something else

Hopefully they will move Brown if Cousins or others are available closer to the deadline.

Especially the ones who also think that the 24-year-old NL MVP is overrated and a bust.

 

[UConn990411]

Why is Noel being lumped in with players like Butler and Cousins?

One of those things is not like the others...

 

[JSM1970]

Butler and Cousins would require huge packages, Noel a lot less. If Butler it's Brown, Crowder and probably one of the Nets' picks either 2017 or 2018.

Cousins even more.

Why is Noel being lumped in with players like Butler and Cousins?

One of those things is not like the others...

 

[UConnSwag11]

Lamb starting with kemba

 

[KeepWinning]

Kemba with 9 pts in 9 minutes. Lamb with 9 pts 8 boards in 13 minutes!

 

[Rocktheworld]

Kemba and JL keeping the Hornets ahead of Melo and the Knicks by 11 at the half.

Great shooting from Kemba with 18 and Jeremy already has 11 and 11.

 

[BUConn10]

Crazy looking back in 2011 that our top 3 guards in the depth chart were 2 future lottery picks and a 1st rounder. God JC had a legendary eye for natural ballers.

 

[Thirty Three]

16 boards for Lamb, most by a guard in the NBA this season

 

[champs99and04]

Crazy looking back in 2011 that our top 3 guards in the depth chart were 2 future lottery picks and a 1st rounder. God JC had a legendary eye for natural ballers.

Cal took Tyreke, Doron Lamb and Brandon Knight. Can't argue with those choices, but we clearly got the better of the deal.

 

[BUConn10]

Cal took Tyreke, Doron Lamb and Brandon Knight. Can't argue with those choices, but we clearly got the better of the deal.

Those three were better as freshman, that's Cal's scouting forte, finding the best guys right now in each class. But the Husky trio all developed into the better players as of today.

 

[champs99and04]

Those three were better as freshman, that's Cal's scouting forte, finding the best guys right now in each class. But the Husky trio all developed into the better players as of today.

I would argue that Jeremy was better than Doron by the end of his freshman year, but your point definitely holds.

 

[BUConn10]

I would argue that Jeremy was better than Doron by the end of his freshman year, but your point definitely holds.

Definitely agree with that. I remember there was serious chatter of some teams saying they'd take Lamb late lottery/1st if he left after his freshman year. He wisely stayed and built up his stock but he could have been a first rounder as a freshman in my opinion. He had all the physical tools you would want in a 2 guard as a GM, plus the intangibles he showed as one of the best freshman in the country at the end of the year coming up big game after game.

 

[James]

Lamb going nuts in his return, was a top 15 sg in rpm last year, how hard is it to see he should play major minutes along side kemba? he should start and rich cho should listen to offers on a MKG + hawes package. If batum can't handle small forwards defensively they shouldnt have paid him all that money, facts.

 

[Matrim55]

Lamb going nuts in his return, was a top 15 sg in rpm last year, how hard is it to see he should play major minutes along side kemba?

He's been hurt. This is literally his first game all year at 100% health.

he should start and rich cho should listen to offers on a MKG + hawes package. If batum can't handle small forwards defensively they shouldnt have paid him all that money, facts.

They're not going to trade MKG. I'm sure they'll trade Hawes if they can get anything half-decent in return.

As for Batum, he's always been a smidge better than average defensively, and a wonderful all-around offensive player. I'm sure once he's back from injury (and Marvin Williams) Clifford will figure out how to rotate all of those wings, plus Kemba & Sessions and end up a top 4 team in the East.

 

[NielsisGood]

They're not going to trade MKG. I'm sure they'll trade Hawes if they can get anything half-decent in return.

As for Batum, he's always been a smidge better than average defensively, and a wonderful all-around offensive player. I'm sure once he's back from injury (and Marvin Williams) Clifford will figure out how to rotate all of those wings, plus Kemba & Sessions and end up a top 4 team in the East.

Hawes has basically 0 trade value, they'd probably be happy to trade him for anyone willing to offer cash or a late 2nd.


Batum is also well above average defensively, that's been his calling card as a player for years now.


Anyways, great stats for Lamb tonight! I didn't get to see the game, but I hope he was tighter defensively, and I hope he's given enough of a leash to play through if he loses a defender, it's not like Bellineli is a great option.

 

[Matrim55]

Hawes has basically 0 trade value, they'd probably be happy to trade him for anyone willing to offer cash or a late 2nd.


Batum is also well above average defensively, that's been his calling card as a player for years now.

I think you're confusing him with MKG, who's a legitimate high-end stopper. Batum's calling card is his ability as a point forward -- you can run the offense through him for huge swathes of time, which makes him a perfect complementary piece for a team built around Kemba.

Defensively he's a little bit above average because of his length. But bigger wings abuse him (he didn't guard Carmelo or Kawhi this week) and he has trouble keeping up with the best SGs when they run him off of screens.

 

[NielsisGood]

I think you're confusing him with MKG, who's a legitimate high-end stopper. Batum's calling card is his ability as a point forward -- you can run the offense through him for huge swathes of time, which makes him a perfect complementary piece for a team built around Kemba.

Defensively he's a little bit above average because of his length. But bigger wings abuse him (he didn't guard Carmelo or Kawhi this week) and he has trouble keeping up with the best SGs when they run him off of screens.

No need to be patronizing. Batum has long been considered a high end defensive player, his passing ability has only been more recently recognized and utilized. He also held Melo to 7-25 last night, and even though Kawhi and Melo had good games on him earlier in the week, Leonard is arguably the only nightmare defender at SF anyways, and 2 elite offensive players having good games over the span of a week doesn't take away from the fact that Batum is probably a top 5 defender at his position (among starters). I'd love to discuss if you could propose 5 better.