Naheim Alleyne to St. John's | Page 4 | The Boneyard

Naheim Alleyne to St. John's

HooperScooper said:
You do realize he was a 3 year starter at Virginia Tech, which was an NCAA Tournament team all the years he was there (2020 NCAA Tournament was cancelled)? He happened to be on a loaded team last season and then he was one of the first guys off the bench. He is a good college player. I'd be shocked if he doesn't start at St. John's next season. Who else do you think Pitino is getting?
Expand ...
Yeah I do but he definitely is limited offensively and not a great 3 point shooter but he does play great d. Either way it hurts he is playing for St. John's. why can't these kids go to a different confrernece.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Expand ...

I don’t know how I feel about this. I mean I like Nahiem and wish him the best, but playing for Pitino?
Confused Curb Your Enthusiasm GIF
 
AntG168 said:
For me it has ZERO to do with anything you just said. I appreciate Nahiem so much that I don’t want to do the mental gymnastics of having to play him. 2 times next season. I felt the same way about Terrance Samuel at USF
Expand ...
You underestimate yourself. I have full confidence it will come easier for you this time given that you had practice with TSam.
 
Hope he’s getting decent NIL money to play for slick Rick.

Wish him all the best, slick Rick not so much. Hope PC puts a beat down on RP for old times sake.
 
.-.
nelsonmuntz said:
It is getting tiring explaining to UConn fans that it is not in our interest for Big East teams to be dumpster fires. St. Johns and Butler look really bad right now, and Depaul and potentially Seton Hall don't look much better. Georgetown and Providence hopefully won't suck. Villanova is the only team in the league that didn't make the Tournament that looks like it is actually a Tournament caliber squad next year. For the math-challenged among you, that is 4 of the 11 teams in the conference that look pretty bad before a ball is tipped next season. Butler, St. Johns, Depaul and Seton Hall all need either major, and unexpected, player improvement or a miracle commitment to challenge for a tournament bid next season. And it is only April 16.

If Alleyne, who was going to struggle to get on the court at UConn, can make St. Johns suck a little less, then I have no problem with him going there.
Expand ...
It's simple. Any school in any power conference outside of the conference UConn happens to be in is a greater threat to UConn's chances of success than any school within that conference.

UConn first. Conference mates second. Weakest outside conferences third.

We're competing for eyeballs, revenue and best players. It's like fans forget our history. JC touted the BE to prospective recruits for a reason. Georgetown is currently doing the same.

And I'll go one step further. Between our conference mates those geographically closer to us add more value to UConn if they are relevant than those geographically distant from us. Almost every great rivalry has two or more programs in proximity to one another. It increases casual fan excitement.
 
.-.
The vitriol towards a guy like Alleyene, who helped us win a championship, is amazing! He's just trying to make the best out of the situation he finds himself in. We have no idea of the circumstances surrounding his departure. He may have been told that he won't have the increased minutes next year that he was expecting or hoping for and therefore, if he wants to showcase his talents for the pros, might be better off somewhere else next season. So it may not have been all his own decision to move on. It is kind of ironic that he made his announcement to leave the day before Timberlake's visit was starting. Coincidence? I think more like the staff wanted to make it clear to NT that there was not only a need for a sharpshooter, but a spot open for him and not just saying there would be.
 
2Infinity said:
The vitriol towards a guy like Alleyene, who helped us win a championship, is amazing! He's just trying to make the best out of the situation he finds himself in. We have no idea of the circumstances surrounding his departure. He may have been told that he won't have the increased minutes next year that he was expecting or hoping for and therefore, if he wants to showcase his talents for the pros, might be better off somewhere else next season. So it may not have been all his own decision to move on. It is kind of ironic that he made his announcement to leave the day before Timberlake's visit was starting. Coincidence? I think more like the staff wanted to make it clear to NT that there was not only a need for a sharpshooter, but a spot open for him and not just saying there would be.
Expand ...
Certainly Naheim can make whatever move he wants to increase his playing time and opportunities. My issue (not that it matters) is how quickly he settled on St. Johns after adding his name to the portal. Like going out with your best friend's ex-girlfriend days after they broke up. Nothing wrong with it by some standards but it seems unseemly.
 
2Infinity said:
The vitriol towards a guy like Alleyene, who helped us win a championship, is amazing! He's just trying to make the best out of the situation he finds himself in. We have no idea of the circumstances surrounding his departure. He may have been told that he won't have the increased minutes next year that he was expecting or hoping for and therefore, if he wants to showcase his talents for the pros, might be better off somewhere else next season. So it may not have been all his own decision to move on. It is kind of ironic that he made his announcement to leave the day before Timberlake's visit was starting. Coincidence? I think more like the staff wanted to make it clear to NT that there was not only a need for a sharpshooter, but a spot open for him and not just saying there would be.
Expand ...

An upperclassmen with a projected bench role should always get our support moving on, even if it's to a conference rival. Naheim clearly loves playing ball--nothing wrong with going to a familiar conference and getting 25+ a game.

Even at the D2 level where I played, transferring in-conference was big. Familiar gyms, familiar players, systems for reporting, etc. All that stuff matters.
 
3rdbass said:
Yeah I do but he definitely is limited offensively and not a great 3 point shooter but he does play great d. Either way it hurts he is playing for St. John's. why can't these kids go to a different confrernece.
Expand ...
He was a solid 3 point shooter for 3 years at Va Tech. Didn't shoot well from 3 for us up until early February. At that point he seemed to shoot pretty darn well. 3.5 years out of 4 of solid 3 point shooting. He even showed a solid mid-range game and at the end of the year, improved taking it to the hoop and finishing at the rim. I don't consider him limited offensively. I think it just seems that way because he had trouble adjusting to a new team, role, system, etc..and didn't shoot well the first 2.5 months. As far as him going to St. Johns, I think it goes without saying that Alleyne has to do what's best for him. Yeah it kinda stinks as a fan, but looking at the bigger picture, what's best for the player, especially one that helped us get #5 is what's most important.
 
HCCForever said:
Certainly Naheim can make whatever move he wants to increase his playing time and opportunities. My issue (not that it matters) is how quickly he settled on St. Johns after adding his name to the portal. Like going out with your best friend's ex-girlfriend days after they broke up. Nothing wrong with it by some standards but it seems unseemly.
Expand ...
Unless the best friend gave his blessing. People sometimes move on amicably and supportive and not always possessive and vindictive.

But your first point is the most important one.

No individual would hesitate going to a rival company if it was an advancement for themselves. If a friend criticized that individual for doing it what type of friend would that person be?
 
.-.
2Infinity said:
The vitriol towards a guy like Alleyene, who helped us win a championship, is amazing! He's just trying to make the best out of the situation he finds himself in. We have no idea of the circumstances surrounding his departure. He may have been told that he won't have the increased minutes next year that he was expecting or hoping for and therefore, if he wants to showcase his talents for the pros, might be better off somewhere else next season. So it may not have been all his own decision to move on. It is kind of ironic that he made his announcement to leave the day before Timberlake's visit was starting. Coincidence? I think more like the staff wanted to make it clear to NT that there was not only a need for a sharpshooter, but a spot open for him and not just saying there would be.
Expand ...
Where is this vitriol y’all keep referencing. I have seen nothing but kind words. The ones who don’t like the move don’t like it because of how grateful they are to Alleyne. No one is trashing the kid.
 
When you have a career 1000+pt scorer.. Great two way player.. Key Championship role player.. Moving onto a program in BE where he will get more PT to finish his career.. Wish him well and good luck at your next stop. I'm sure he and Dan Hurley had a straight and honest discussion about next season and the competition for minutes.

Doesn't it also indicate the caliber of talent that is being brought into our Program via recruiting and portal targets?? Radical difference between now and a few years ago in Storrs .. I'll take this scenario any day.. Replenish the talent and reload.. Its what Championship Programs do.
 
HCCForever said:
Certainly Naheim can make whatever move he wants to increase his playing time and opportunities. My issue (not that it matters) is how quickly he settled on St. Johns after adding his name to the portal. Like going out with your best friend's ex-girlfriend days after they broke up. Nothing wrong with it by some standards but it seems unseemly.
Expand ...
If he wanted to stay in the top college basketball conference, stay near his girlfriend and also play a lot of minutes, he probably chose his best option. I'm not sure why he would want to wait longer and possibly have someone else grab his spot. He didn't just learn of UConn's plan yesterday, he's had a few days to consider his options I'm sure, so this wasn't spur of the moment.
 
Wish he was staying, and if he's leaving, wish it wasn't in conference. Oh well. Hope he has a great deal of success and goes 0-2 against UConn next year.
 
AntG168 said:
Where is this vitriol y’all keep referencing. I have seen nothing but kind words. The ones who don’t like the move don’t like it because of how grateful they are to Alleyne. No one is trashing the kid.
Expand ...
Are you serious? Let's compare your reactions. Take a look your words above, " I have seen nothing but kind words" and then those below from your initial reaction. There's no sarcasm or tongue-in-cheek expressions in there. It's clear below that those were NOT kind words!
AntG168 said:
I know we’re supposed to say nice things. And I have. But this is disgusting. I can’t root for him next season now. It will have to wait another year. Nahiem is the enemy for 12 more months
Expand ...
 
It might be a great move for Alleyne. Billy Donovan, Marty Conlon, Reggie Hansen, and Reese Gaines went from first year Pitino teams to the NBA, and I don’t think anyone would have expected it except maybe for Gaines.
 
.-.
ctchamps said:
Unless the best friend gave his blessing. People sometimes move on amicably and supportive and not always possessive and vindictive.

But your first point is the most important one.

No individual would hesitate going to a rival company if it was an advancement for themselves. If a friend criticized that individual for doing it what type of friend would that person be?
Expand ...
My final word since I am in the minority. When going to a rival company there is often a non-compete clause for a limited amount of time. My main issue is Nahiem going to a team in the same conference. I know it happens all the time now but it will take me a while to adjust.

The baseball team had Casey Dana transfer from Seton Hall so I am aware of the new changes in collegiate sports and it often benefits UConn.
 
UCfor3 said:
He was a solid 3 point shooter for 3 years at Va Tech. Didn't shoot well from 3 for us up until early February. At that point he seemed to shoot pretty darn well. 3.5 years out of 4 of solid 3 point shooting. He even showed a solid mid-range game and at the end of the year, improved taking it to the hoop and finishing at the rim. I don't consider him limited offensively. I think it just seems that way because he had trouble adjusting to a new team, role, system, etc..and didn't shoot well the first 2.5 months. As far as him going to St. Johns, I think it goes without saying that Alleyne has to do what's best for him. Yeah it kinda stinks as a fan, but looking at the bigger picture, what's best for the player, especially one that helped us get #5 is what's most important.
Expand ...
I really wonder what happened to him for most of the season offensively. Maybe a lack of confidence? He often looked rushed and nervous. Three years at VT shooting 39%, 41%, and 37% from three yet most of the year here he was under 30% (actually finished at 30.5% so got back above 30)

But agreed. He turned it up when it mattered the most. Down the stretch that midrange pull-up was money every time. 45% from three in the month of March and amazing defense all year round. Didn’t think he’d come in as such a lockdown defender but was crucial all year
 
HCCForever said:
My final word since I am in the minority. When going to a rival company there is often a non-compete clause for a limited amount of time. My main issue is Nahiem going to a team in the same conference. I know it happens all the time now but it will take me a while to adjust.

The baseball team had Casey Dana transfer from Seton Hall so I am aware of the new changes in collegiate sports and it often benefits UConn.
Expand ...
My statement was meant to offer a different perspective to the situation and not an indictment against how you or other individuals feel about the situation.
 
REB1094 said:
I really wonder what happened to him for most of the season offensively. Maybe a lack of confidence? He often looked rushed and nervous. Three years at VT shooting 39%, 41%, and 37% from three yet most of the year here he was under 30% (actually finished at 30.5% so got back above 30)

But agreed. He turned it up when it mattered the most. Down the stretch that midrange pull-up was money every time. 45% from three in the month of March and amazing defense all year round. Didn’t think he’d come in as such a lockdown defender but was crucial all year
Expand ...
Defense is what got us this title but it’s Hurley’s calling card and anyone he puts in the mix has to get that right or they don’t see the floor.
 
2Infinity said:
The vitriol towards a guy like Alleyene, who helped us win a championship, is amazing! He's just trying to make the best out of the situation he finds himself in. We have no idea of the circumstances surrounding his departure. He may have been told that he won't have the increased minutes next year that he was expecting or hoping for and therefore, if he wants to showcase his talents for the pros, might be better off somewhere else next season. So it may not have been all his own decision to move on. It is kind of ironic that he made his announcement to leave the day before Timberlake's visit was starting. Coincidence? I think more like the staff wanted to make it clear to NT that there was not only a need for a sharpshooter, but a spot open for him and not just saying there would be.
Expand ...

There is no vitriol at all in this thread. Come on. People are miffed he's going to SJU but there's not a single poster who's seriously impugning him, much less with vitriol. Pretty weird you couldn't understand that AntG's post was tongue-in-cheek -- he said he'll be rooting for him again in a year.

And the people who are miffed aren't annoyed because he's leaving -- I don't think there's a single person suggesting that was a wrong decision -- they're questioning whether he had to go to a conference "rival."
 
.-.
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,239
Messages
4,559,331
Members
10,447
Latest member
Theuconnguy


Top Bottom