Mushnick of NY Post:Ct Taxpayers/others worried about Ollies grammar

[Husky25]

As for Williams and Spurrier being an act, how could you possibly know that?

Because everyone know it, of course.

 

[David 76]

BTW, I graduated from UCONN without anyone addressing how I spoke. For the vast majority of us, it is not what we did at college and I left with my 'Staven intact.

 

[Bestiarius]

Mushnik's bringing up this topic is a good thing. Don't kid yourself, lots of people who heard Kevin speak, many for the first time, were thinking the same thing about him and the University. Having the discussion out in the open has given people the opportunity to consider many of the points raised here and in other places. Perhaps this will enable people to change their preconceived opinion. Politically correct censorship is rarely a good thing. It enables wrong thinking to endure.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

South Central LA, during the time KO was in HS was an absolute war zone. There were literally kids out with assault rifles taking each other out, in war games like fashion. To speak nothing of the drive by shootings that led to movies like Boys in the Hood, and Menace to Society. What kind of teachers/teaching would be attracted to that? That had to be one tough environment to teach in for the ones who did it. Did Ollie go to Crenshaw HS?

I am not going to take him to task over grammar given his background, sheet the man made it out of South Central, graduated college, endured the CBA, willed himself to a 13 year NBA career that should have never happened given his skill set, is a college coach at his alma mater, and NBA greats like Kevin Durant credit him with changing the culture of the organazation. I say he is to be applauded for his accomplishment and not derided over his less than perfect grammar.

As for Williams and Spurrier being an act, how could you possibly know that?

See my post about drama queens. I am suggesting he takes some communications training. It is time for you to settle down.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Ollie's communication skills are just fine. He is able to communicate to his players how to beat a 1-3-1 press and hold The SEC's Player of the Year to 1 assist and Turn him over 3 times. On Napier's steal (and assist to Boatright), Wilbekin literally looked like he was about to stick his head up his @ .

I find it funny that the Indignation Police like yourself grab any perceived slight against Ollie or anything about UConn and turn it into a multi-post rant where you wrap yourself in the Husky flag and claim heresy against anyone that does not toe the mob's line.

At the cost of making this thread longer, but I would like you to walk me from where I said his subjects and verbs do not always agree to a criticism of his attack of the 1-3-1 press. I look forward to this.

 

[mauconnfan]

Asking a coach to take some communications training, one who impacts teams, players and does the job he's paid to do and then some, who has the respect for all of the coaches in America as well as the media, well that's a bit dramatic isn't it?

 

[noeynox]

See my post about drama queens. I am suggesting he takes some communications training. It is time for you to settle down.

I'm not screaming or worked up. I just think some perspective is in order. So he doesn't speak like Grant Hill or Tommy Amaker or Brad Stevens. Big Deal. They probably had different backgrounds educationally growing up. If KO wants to take some communication courses good for him. The way he speaks has not hampered him yet in his chosen profession.

 

[CTMike]

You drama queens literally live on being indignant, don't you?

 

[pepband99]

It's not transparently ignorant. It's transparently douchy.

Nothing transparent about it. Nelson is a . Period.

 

[Husky25]

I find it funny that the Indignation Police like yourself grab any perceived slight against Ollie or anything about UConn and turn it into a multi-post rant where you wrap yourself in the Husky flag and claim heresy against anyone that does not toe the mob's line.

At the cost of making this thread longer, but I would like you to walk me from where I said his subjects and verbs do not always agree to a criticism of his attack of the 1-3-1 press. I look forward to this.

Another classic Muntz strawman.

Grammar and communication are two distinct things. You have your opinion (And make no mistake it is an opinion...not fact), and I vehemently disagree with your opinion. And now you don't want to continue the thread because others also disagree. You are not always right. Deal with it

 

[pepband99]

You drama queens literally live on being indignant, don't you?

Not as much as you live on being wrong AND indignant, apparently.

 

[Fishy]

Phil Mushnick seems to get annoyed when there are black people on his television.

 

[UCHuskies08]

You drama queens literally live on being indignant, don't you?

Nope, we just don't care if Ollie says "we was" or "we were"

Because, seriously, the only people that upsets are older white people.

How old are you nelson? How old is Phil Mushnick? How old do you think the average emailer whose complained about this is? I'd be surprised if there were one under 40.

Let me guess, you don't like all the hippity-hop music either?

 

[SubbaBub]

Let's see if I can diagram this sentence correctly.

Phil (subject, noun)
is (verb, present tense)
an (definite article of the object phrase)
unbelievable (adverb modifying the object noun)
(object, noun)

 

[zls44]

Nope, we just don't care if Ollie says "we was" or "we were" Because, seriously, the only people that upsets are older white people.

Ever notice how the people who always talk about the "good ole days" are white?

 

[mauconnfan]

Phil Mushnick seems to get annoyed when there are black people on his television.

Didn't think anyone could make me laugh from anything in this thread…….beautiful! More OJ clean up…….

 

[Husky1972]

Did you ever try to diagram one of Jim Calhoun's spoken sentences?

Quite frankly, no.

But I have had them interpreted for me.

 

[dsturdy5]

Showing my age here but I think Public Enemy summed up the New York Post the best.

 

[babysheep]

Let me guess, you don't like all the hippity-hop music either?

It ain't all bad!

 

[mauconnfan]

UConn beat Florida last night and is playing for yet another NC…..without 10 McD AA's on their roster……that's the story.

Not the way KO talks…….let's end this frivolity here!

 

[intlzncster]

Practice? We talking about Practice? Practice? We talking about Practice here???

 

[Devland]

The coaches salaries are paid with athletic department revenues not taxpayer money. This means the money comes from the fans through ticket sales, merchandise sales and TV revenue. I am pretty sure the fans are happy with him.

 

[hjoerring]

Mushnick is at once a bitter old fool and the smart alec middle school wise ass who taunts from the sideline while people are doing things he cannot. I stopped reading him years ago, since all his columns are nothing but predictable heckling. This one is more of the same.

Yes, he is a ....... But I think we should get Ollie copies of that Brit.series- Downton Abb. (sp) to practice and emulate. It will improve his language game tremendously. We must remember that the language game is the last bastian of middleclassness, especially when all the other pillows are fading away into the sunset. This marker of class, race, ethnicity, place of origin and even gender works its tricks to expose the impostures. What else does this old guy have to offer his readers- other then stirring the pot, one more time. Of ourse there are some limits to how creative we can be with our language- so, a bit more attentiveness to general public speaking can only be positive, given the hot seat that is college athletics today (and especially Uconn. Note how quickly he moved from Ollie to the school that educated him and for which/whom he work.POOR GRAMMAR. I CAN SEE IT.) IS IT WHICH OR WHOM? Anyone remember their high school grammar about when and where to use these?

 

[Devland]

It is clear now that Mushnick had Florida winning it all in his pool.

 

[huskeynut]

As one of those "old white guys", I have no problem with Ollie's speech.

Nelson, for a supposed UCONN fan, you have more negative posts than anyone poster I know or have read. You have trashed Herbst and Manuel and now you go after Ollie. Who's next - Geno with his wise cracks and humor?

 

[Jax Husky]

Ollie is an educator and part of his job is PR. Written and verbal communication is critical in any job. No one is asking him to be F. Scott Fitzgerald or speak like a seasoned politician, but I would like to see the subject and verb agree a little more often when Ollie speaks.

This is not that hard to fix. It is very common for companies to send employees to writing and speaking seminars for communications training. That is all Ollie needs here.

Who cares? How does it affect you personally? He is representing UConn just fine.

 

[SirHypeAlot]

I give zero f ucks about this. Zero.

love this. my friends and i have been harping 2014 is the year of zero f ucks. just win baby.

 

[babysheep]

Yes, he is a .. But I think we should get Ollie copies of that Brit.series- Downton Abb. (sp) to practice and emulate. It will improve his language game tremendously. We must remember that the language game is the last bastian of middleclassness, especially when all the other pillows are fading away into the sunset. This marker of class, race, ethnicity, place of origin and even gender works its tricks to expose the impostures. What else does this old guy have to offer his readers- other then stirring the pot, one more time. Of ourse there are some limits to how creative we can be with our language- so, a bit more attentiveness to general public speaking can only be positive, given the hot seat that is college athletics today (and especially Uconn. Note how quickly he moved from Ollie to the school that educated him and for which/whom he work.POOR GRAMMAR. I CAN SEE IT.) IS IT WHICH OR WHOM? Anyone remember their high school grammar about when and where to use these?

Just a guess from someone with decent knowledge of English structure (grad student soon-to-be Speech Language Pathologist).

Seems like the relationship "whom" indicates is usually that of two live or conscious entities (also personified objects), one being a sender and the other a receiver of something, be it an object or action.

"Which" can used much more diversely and abstractly. It can be used to progress a string of logic. I believe when involving senders and receivers of actions, it is used more appropriately with inanimate or unconscious object(s). Sit a kid in front of three dolls and give them a ball, you could ask them "to which doll will you roll it?" and once you personify the dolls by giving them names, it turns to "whom."

So, while there is a kind of lively aspect of a University in that it is dynamic and ever-evolving while having tradition and an abstract "purpose" being an academic institution, I think "which" might be more appropriate.

But that's just me BSing.

 

[RyMaN600]

The NY Post, like any media outlet caters to its audience - in this case, racist, older white people. He uses the word grammar, but what he means is black.

Bullseye.

His moaning about the plight of "Connecticut taxpayers" having to put up with Ollie's "grammar problems" is a dog whistle pitched high enough to break glass.

 

[UConn990411]

I'm so glad we're focusing on this topic and not the National Championship game against Kentucky...