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[Purple Stein]

The logical place to drop to is the Colonial football league, but they probably wouldn't have us (getting crowded in there - already have 12 teams), so maybe we just stay at this level and go independent and play UMass 6 times and BYU 6 times.

When Nova and JMU go FBS, it should open up a slot for us and UMess in the CAA

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Right and replace it with E sports.

Dropping football altogether would put us in special company I would not care to have. Since 1956, the only schools to win a Mens Basketball title and not have a D1 football programs was the University of San Francisco in '56 and Loyola-Chicago in '63.

The logical place to drop to is the Colonial football league, but they probably wouldn't have us (getting crowded in there - already have 12 teams), so maybe we just stay at this level and go independent and play UMass 6 times and BYU 6 times.

List of NCAA Division I men's basketball champions - Wikipedia

It makes zero sense to drop to FCS.

 

[Exit 4]

It makes zero sense to drop to FCS.

Someone needs to tell the 125+ school’s playing at the FCS level what they are doing makes zero sense. Playing FCS makes more sense to me than dropping football altogether. The list of schools with a major athletic profile without any football is short to non existent.

 

[noeynox]

Someone needs to tell the 125+ school’s playing at the FCS level what they are doing makes zero sense. Playing FCS makes more sense to me than dropping football altogether. The list of schools with a major athletic profile without any football is short to non existent.

FCS makes no sense for us. You built the rent. If you can't fill the place now FCS will look like the Yale Bowl most days. Also, the point would be to lower the subsidy by a lot. FCS still loses millions.

 

[huskymedic]

FCS makes no sense for us. You built the rent. If you can't fill the place now FCS will look like the Yale Bowl most days. Also, the point would be to lower the subsidy by a lot. FCS still loses millions.

 

[whaler11]

Someone needs to tell the 125+ school’s playing at the FCS level what they are doing makes zero sense. Playing FCS makes more sense to me than dropping football altogether. The list of schools with a major athletic profile without any football is short to non existent.

What FCS schools are doing makes zero sense and a lot of them are going to have to deal with in the medium term.

They would lose even MORE money in FCS.

 

[Exit 4]

What FCS schools are doing makes zero sense and a lot of them are going to have to deal with in the medium term.

They would lose even MORE money in FCS.

Yes 125 schools doing something that makes zero sense and we know this because we are on a message board and they are not. All college sports are subsidized. To lessen the subsidy we will dramatically reduce the coach headcount and salaries and all the suppport.

But my point is like it or not you can’t run a serious athletic program without at least an FCS level football team. Outside of Gonzaga, Georgetown and St Johns, what schools can we name as serious sports schools without football? It’s a short short list.

 

[whaler11]

Yes 125 schools doing something that makes zero sense and we know this because we are on a message board and they are not. All college sports are subsidized. To lessen the subsidy we will dramatically reduce the coach headcount and salaries and all the suppport.

But my point is like it or not you can’t run a serious athletic program without at least an FCS level football team. Outside of Gonzaga, Georgetown and St Johns, what schools can we name as serious sports schools without football? It’s a short short list.

This is pretty simple. FCS is not an option.

You lose the same if not more money on FCS. There is zero revenue.

The list with no football isn’t that different from the list with FCS.

Wichita, Xavier, Creighton, Gonzaga there are some others.

Georgetown has a football team.

The FCS list has Villanova. That’s the only difference.

 

[BlueDogs]

Honestly, I thought there was some good vibes and buzz at the spring game. It’s was a very healthy showing and core interest remains strong.

As much as I put a fair share of this debacle on Suzie Lax, the Rock Star and their predecessors, at present there is not much that can be done other than grind it out and hope RE 2.0 can get it back on track.

What I don’t like already in RE 2.0 and AD Dave dynamics is the loss Lashley (a very talented OC and Grimes a great OL coach) and the retention of Crocker, an utterly incompetent tool. It violates good management principles - clean out underperformers quickly and retain your best talent. AD Dave can’t allow RE 2.0. to get away with another version of PP and GDL. Active oversight and management is required.

In RE I trust...mostly

 

[Exit 4]

This is pretty simple. FCS is not an option.

You lose the same if not more money on FCS. There is zero revenue.

The list with no football isn’t that different from the list with FCS.

Wichita, Xavier, Creighton, Gonzaga there are some others.

Georgetown has a football team.

The FCS list has Villanova. That’s the only difference.

Yes, it’s pretty simple- the university would drop to FCS rather than abruptly ends its near 100 year history in the sport all together. I don’t see us becoming St Johns or Xavier. If Maine, UNH and Rhode Island can run a leaky FCS program, then sure as hell we are going to do it too. Bubble gum and band aids.

 

[whaler11]

Yes, it’s pretty simple- the university would drop to FCS rather than abruptly ends its near 100 year history in the sport all together. I don’t see us becoming St Johns or Xavier. If Maine, UNH and Rhode Island can run a leaky FCS program, then sure as hell we are going to do it too. Bubble gum and band aids.

Other than the point of the change would be to save money and your bubble gum and band aids would actually cost more.... sure.

You saw how Rhode Island can run a leaky FCS program. They choose keeping it over funding what it would cost to keep someone like Hurley.

 

[Stainmaster]

Honestly, I thought there was some good vibes and buzz at the spring game. It’s was a very healthy showing and core interest remains strong.

As much as I put a fair share of this debacle on Suzie Lax, the Rock Star and their predecessors, at present there is not much that can be done other than grind it out and hope RE 2.0 can get it back on track.

What I don’t like already in RE 2.0 and AD Dave dynamics is the loss Lashley (a very talented OC and Grimes a great OL coach) and the retention of Crocker, an utterly incompetent tool. It violates good management principles - clean out underperformers quickly and retain your best talent. AD Dave can’t allow RE 2.0. to get away with another version of PP and GDL. Active oversight and management is required.

In RE I trust...mostly

If you think Crocker is an incompetent tool, I hope he’s kept in the DC spot for life.

 

[noeynox]

Honestly, I thought there was some good vibes and buzz at the spring game. It’s was a very healthy showing and core interest remains strong.

As much as I put a fair share of this debacle on Suzie Lax, the Rock Star and their predecessors, at present there is not much that can be done other than grind it out and hope RE 2.0 can get it back on track.

What I don’t like already in RE 2.0 and AD Dave dynamics is the loss Lashley (a very talented OC and Grimes a great OL coach) and the retention of Crocker, an utterly incompetent tool. It violates good management principles - clean out underperformers quickly and retain your best talent. AD Dave can’t allow RE 2.0. to get away with another version of PP and GDL. Active oversight and management is required.

In RE I trust...mostly

Generally speaking a plan that involves hope isn't a good one. For example I've been hoping to become a millionaire playing lottery for the better part of 20 years. Its not going very good.

 

[noeynox]

Yes, it’s pretty simple- the university would drop to FCS rather than abruptly ends its near 100 year history in the sport all together. I don’t see us becoming St Johns or Xavier. If Maine, UNH and Rhode Island can run a leaky FCS program, then sure as hell we are going to do it too. Bubble gum and band aids.

Sacred Cows man. That is essentially what FCS is. Plus cheap programming for the espnwatch app.

 

[Exit 4]

Other than the point of the change would be to save money and your bubble gum and band aids would actually cost more.... sure.

Do you have evidence the financial holes to run FCS football are deeper than our current deficit or you just making that up? 125+ programs on the stupid bus.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Yes, it’s pretty simple- the university would drop to FCS rather than abruptly ends its near 100 year history in the sport all together. I don’t see us becoming St Johns or Xavier. If Maine, UNH and Rhode Island can run a leaky FCS program, then sure as hell we are going to do it too. Bubble gum and band aids.

This is insane.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Do you have evidence the financial holes to run FCS football are deeper than our current deficit or you just making that up? 125+ programs on the stupid bus.

Where would they even play the games?

 

[whaler11]

Do you have evidence the financial holes to run FCS football are deeper than our current deficit or you just making that up? 125+ programs on the stupid bus.

Their existance is a historical relic. They are going to start dropping like flies especially at public schools. The students are finally wising up to student debt loads and how they get saddled with it for things like athletic subsidies.

The cost savings is 20 odd scholarships and a million+ dollars in coaching salaries or so.

The revenue loss is all of the revenue.

How would you ever close the gap with that trade?

The next state budget is going to punish UConn - the subsidy is going to really come under scruitiny next cycle.

 

[Purple Stein]

Yes, it’s pretty simple- the university would drop to FCS rather than abruptly ends its near 100 year history in the sport all together. I don’t see us becoming St Johns or Xavier. If Maine, UNH and Rhode Island can run a leaky FCS program, then sure as hell we are going to do it too. Bubble gum and band aids.

Maine's program is not leaky and quite occasionally vaguely successful!

 

[Palatine]

Dropping to FCS doesn't save any money. It is a big financial loser with no chance to break even or make profit.

There is a saying on the Appalachian Trail, "never make a decision when you are walking uphill." Making a decision about the football program when it is at it nadir would be similar. Any change in the football program needs to balance its potential and peripheral effects on the university. Getting a couple of years past Diaco before doing anything would be a rational move.

 

[YoungFree]

They will drop football altogether before they go FCS.

Really?

 

[YoungFree]

Someone needs to tell the 125+ school’s playing at the FCS level what they are doing makes zero sense. Playing FCS makes more sense to me than dropping football altogether. The list of schools with a major athletic profile without any football is short to non existent.

One thing that makes perfect sense in FCS: the playoff system.

 

[YoungFree]

Yikes. That's nuts.

 

[Exit 4]

Where would they even play the games?

IDK - The Rent looks to have a permanently wide open schedule.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

IDK - The Rent looks to have a permanently wide open schedule.

LOL yes an FCS program will games at the Rent.

Why would you even want an FCS team? It would borderline criminal to sink money into this during these budget cycles with rising tuition costs. Look at the link medic posted. It’s criminal for state schools to be doing this. They are not only stupid they are insane.

 

[YoungFree]

LOL yes an FCS program will games at the Rent.

Why would you even want an FCS team? It would borderline criminal to sink money into this during these budget cycles with rising tuition costs. Look at the link medic posted. It’s criminal for state schools to be doing this. They are not only stupid they are insane.

I argue that for state schools like Delaware, could they even make enough money to pay for FBS scholarships and the travel associated with it? Delaware is tiny and doesn't pull in that much money. CT has insane budget woes already so I agree as a money-making venture, FCS isn't financially the best way ahead. And seeing as college sports seem to be all about money...

 

[Exit 4]

The revenue loss is all of the revenue.

What revenue? Best I can tell the revenue we generate now barely covers the cost to open the Rent. And we already get very little TV revenue.

We are not going to drop football all together unless we can do it under the cover that our surrounding state universities are doing the same. When Albany, Stony Brook, Buffalo, URI, NH and Maine cut football then we will have cover to cut it too, otherwise we aren't going to blaze that path.

 

[Exit 4]

LOL yes an FCS program will games at the Rent.

Why would you even want an FCS team? It would borderline criminal to sink money into this during these budget cycles with rising tuition costs. Look at the link medic posted. It’s criminal for state schools to be doing this. They are not only stupid they are insane.

Yes - all criminally insane: With respect to the state budget, CCSU will lose their team before we lose our team.

List of NCAA Division I FCS football programs - Wikipedia

 

[whaler11]

What revenue? Best I can tell the revenue we generate now barely covers the cost to open the Rent. And we already get very little TV revenue.

We are not going to drop football all together unless we can do it under the cover that our surrounding state universities are doing the same. When Albany, Stony Brook, Buffalo, URI, NH and Maine cut football then we will have cover to cut it too, otherwise we aren't going to blaze that path.

They do still sell some tickets. Many of which come with seat donations. The program has some supporters that donate. There is some bowl money they get.

Going to FCS enrages a huge piece of your fanbase without closing the deficit.

We can agree to disagree but your logic makes no sense. Nothing those schools do or don’t do is going to influence how the numbers force UConn’s hand.

Making a change from FBS football is 100% a financial decision - there is no reasonable half measure that addresses the financial gap.

 

[whaler11]

Why would anyone even want FCS football?

At least if they drop it they have additional resources to throw at basketball and hockey.

FCS would be an absolute embarrassment.