Let's Talk Iowa State...

[FfldCntyFan]

It may come down to UConn running a lot of:

SN
RB
LK
NG
DD

Would be a nice game to have last years OC show up.

Could see some Facey also.

This could be the second game in a row that Brimah won't see a ton of time. He would be good to oop to on offense though. Not sure he can guard one of their players. Same with Nolan. Unless Edozie plays.

I think the worst thing we could do is to try to become what they are (especially as it would be a far lesser version). Force them to try to score inside on Brimah. Let them try to match our frontcourt's length and our backcourt's quickness. The mistake we made two years ago is we allowed them to do what they did best and tried to match it. Bazz and Boat won't get any taller on Friday but it will be difficult for ISU's guards to stay in front of them. We are who we are. Make them try to beat us.

 

[Mots010]

They have hands. Big hands. I'm talking incredible hulk stuff here. I also see they played at BYU. I think thats at 4,000 feet elevation. You have no idea what type of an advantage that gives them.

 

[CTBasketball]

I've been spying on their forum all evening (my life is an enigma, yes) and apparently a UConn football fan tossed their mascot down the aisle at a football game and broke the bird's arm. Some of those fans are foaming at the mouth wanting revenge in blood and forced labor.

 

[blackbird]

Glad we're playing them instead of UNC. UNC looked big. Iowa State looks more like us, quality shooters and speedy. I don't mind our chances, especially in The Garden.

 

[maineuconnfan]

they probably are looking to exact some revenge from 2012, the first 15 minutes of that game, I almost broke my tv...hoilberg runs some very nice offensive sets

 

[Huskybass]

They have given up an average of 82 points per game over their last 8 games. UConn is 20-1 this year when it scores over 70 points. I love our chances of advancing to the Elite 8, even if it is a shootout.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Ken Pom has us winning by one, and early line is a pick

538 has us with a 52% chance to win according to their projections.

 

[Scoe]

I look for Boatright and Daniels to have a big game.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I've been spying on their forum all evening (my life is an enigma, yes) and apparently a UConn football fan tossed their mascot down the aisle at a football game and broke the bird's arm. Some of those fans are foaming at the mouth wanting revenge in blood and forced labor.

That is their version. On the football board the real story came out and it was something along the lines of their mascot going into the student section, starting crap, getting

I've been spying on their forum all evening (my life is an enigma, yes) and apparently a UConn football fan tossed their mascot down the aisle at a football game and broke the bird's arm. Some of those fans are foaming at the mouth wanting revenge in blood and forced labor.

There is more to the story and I believe their mascot was starting trouble with a cop before the arm was broken.

 

[caw]

I think this is going to be a really interesting game. If it's a low scoring game, UConn has a real good chance of winning this. I'm not sure about a high scoring game though. I'm not sure we really have enough weapons offensively. I like our chances if Iowa State scores under 65. I really dislike our chances if Iowa State scores over 75.

As someone mentioned ISU never scores under 70. It would be amazing if UConn held them to under 65.

I do think UConn can score with them but it's not UConns forte.

 

[caw]

they probably are looking to exact some revenge from 2012, the first 15 minutes of that game, I almost broke my tv...hoilberg runs some very nice offensive sets

The nutcase was a tough guard for UConns starters. He was a more athletic version of that dude from St Joes. It helps UConn immensely that Niang is out simple bc that would be a bad matchup.

They average 84 PPG, 1.14 PPP on 47.5, 69.8 and 36.8 shooting splits. They also average 38.6 rebounds, 6 steals and 3 blocks.

They give up 74 PPG 1.02 PPP on 41.8, 72.6, 33.7 shooting splits. They also give up 37.1 Rebounds, 5.5 times have it stolen and 3.4 have it blocked.

They play a much higher pace than UConn. 66.5 possessions per 40 for UConn an 73.1 for ISU. Or 6.6 possessions per 40 less for UConn, translates to about 7 extra points at the same PPP, or 79.5, defensively that would add about 6.3 points to UConns opponents at the same PPP or about 70. Sorry just did some quick math so might be off by .1 or .2 with previous two PPG calculations. Now the question is if UConn can maintain its methodical pace against an offense that is high powered.

UConn averages 72.5 PPG 1.09 PPPon 44.8, 76.5 and 39.2 shooting splits. UConn grabs 35.2 rebounds, averages 7.1 steals and 6 blocks.

UConn only gives up 63.7 PPG, 0.96 PPP on 38.9, 67, and 33 shooting splits. UConn gives up 34.7 rebounds, have the ball stolen 5.8 times and blocked 3.2.

The closest offense UConn has played against statistically is probably UL but UL generates a lot of that offense with its defense, which is also stellar. ISU generates it's offense through offense. Very similar to how UNC used to run/still runs things, the whole "we will out score you" attitude. I do think Hoiberg can adjust better than Williams so it will be interesting to see what he plays for this one. Ollie needs to make sure the kids are keyed in on the scouting reports and stick with their assignments. I will say ISUs shooting against UNC wasn't exactly characteristic but they are a different team now without niang.

 

[mauconnfan]

Ejim 6-6 220 18.1-8.5. Very good player, can shoot the ball decently but is a very good rebounder. likely Daniels or Giffey would start on him.

Kane 6-4, 200 17-6-7. Very good all around player. Much like Bazz there is little he can't do. Maybe not as nifty with the ball as Bazz but taller an stronger and a better leaper. He's their PG but Boat and Bazz will have trouble defending him.

Hogue 6-6 215, 11-9. Similar to Ejim less prolific from three but still very good. I imagine Giffey or Daniels on him.

Morris 6-2, 170 freshman who is good but I like this matchup with either Bazz or Boat.

Edozie 6-8 245. Basically started against UNC because Niang was out. Kind of a meh player. Dunno if he will start against UConn.



Long 6-4, 205. Good shooter. Not their biggest threat but may see more shots with Niang out. Off the bench Answer to Kromah.

That's the main team.

Just as an FYI they are real tough. But they are small……Hogue is funny listed at 6'6" because I saw him next to Ejiim in the huddle and is 2 inches shorter - 6'4 1/2" best and Kane was at least an inch orm ore shorter than him……….but no matter they are stronger and wider than our guys………tough match up but I like it!

 

[mauconnfan]

I like the fact we can play defense and keep them in front of us…….with Niang that would have changed because they play the in-out game so well and he is a lethal passer……..they played in a high today and I doubt that wears off fast. They are tough and can score the ball……..but we are UConn and can defend. I think it's a brawl and our boys are up for the challenge……..

 

[James]

Pinkston was a bull too, he had trouble vs 7 foot wingspans of our frontline. looking at all the numbers, ISU is a smart offense that gets great looks. They are not good defensively. Having just lost such an integral part of their offense, it really says a lot about how poor unc was defensively. Daniels vs Ejim will be interesting. We gotta get deandre touches on the block vs them

 

[superjohn]

I'm always amazed at the lack of knowledge from other programs. Just went over to the ISU message board for a peak and one guy says we are arrogant for a school that's only successful program is women's basketball, another guy admits we have won 1 championship. Iowa State has done nothing outside of wrestling, it's amazing how some fan bases have such high opinions of themselves when they have accomplished nothing on the national level. I respect their team but am surprised by how little the fans seem to know.

 

[Deleted member 3149]

The Iowa state board talks about how we're a womens basketball school. They must've forgotten that we're arguably the best program of the past 15 years with 3 national titles.

 

[uc1974]

Game is a tossup and will be decided on some yet to be discovered intangible. Hoiberg is an excellent coach and he should have his guys well prepared. Why would anyone expect intelligent analysis from 99% of the boards "out there." We even got cr*p from the Bucknell folks in 2011 and one might suppose their fanbase to be reasonably intelligent.

 

[NHUConnfan]

The Iowa state board talks about how we're a womens basketball school. They must've forgotten that we're arguably the best program of the past 15 years with 3 national titles.

They're new to this whole "being good at sports" thing. Give 'em a break ;-)

 

[BoatShow]

Not putting much stock in the KenPom numbers. Didn't they only give us 34% chance to beat Nova?

 

[BoatShow]

[MikeSol12, post: 894378, member: 3149"]The Iowa state board talks about how we're a womens basketball school. They must've forgotten that we're arguably the best program of the past 15 years with 3 national titles.[/quote]
And theyre a men's basketball school? Jamaal Tinsley ain't walking through that door!

 

[UConnNick]

I've been spying on their forum all evening (my life is an enigma, yes) and apparently a UConn football fan tossed their mascot down the aisle at a football game and broke the bird's arm. Some of those fans are foaming at the mouth wanting revenge in blood and forced labor.

Some of them may also remember that when we destroyed them in football in the last game of the 2002 season at Ames, their local TV broadcast lost its audio feed early in the first quarter. They couldn't get it fixed, so they used Joe D's UCONN radio call of the game as audio for their TV telecast for the rest of the game. Joe proceeded to F up most of his calls as usual, but what really got under their skin is he kept referring to them as the "Hawkeyes." Not only did they absorb a humiliating loss, but they were referred to as their cross state arch rival. There were Cyclone fans who wanted to hook Joe up to the rear bumper of their pickup trucks and drag him clear across the state of Iowa.

 

[Milo65]

That is their version. On the football board the real story came out and it was something along the lines of their mascot going into the student section, starting crap, getting


There is more to the story and I believe their mascot was starting trouble with a cop before the arm was broken.

I was there that day, Cy (their mascot) went up into the student section and started harassing our fans. The dumb chicken fell back down the stairs, without being pushed (yes, I was there) and ended up breaking it's arm. You really couldn't tell that Cy broke his arm because he had a huge smile on his face when he was laying at the bottom of stairs!

 

[Walker11]

They had 1 fan who said that we are a women's basketball school and who didn't realize we have 3 championships. It is not wise to extrapolate 1 fan to an entire fan base. Imagine if someone on the ISU forum was quoting Palatine or Nelson and using it to judge our entire fan base....

No need to get panties in a bunch.

 

[intlzncster]

They had 1 fan who said that we are a women's basketball school and who didn't realize we have 3 championships. It is not wise to extrapolate 1 fan to an entire fan base. Imagine if someone on the ISU forum was quoting Palatine or Nelson and using it to judge our entire fan base....

No need to get panties in a bunch.

Yes there is. We generated disgust for opposing fan bases for both St Joes and Villanova. And we won. We are doing the same for Iowa St because it works.

 

[dmclone1]

I'm always amazed at the lack of knowledge from other programs. Just went over to the ISU message board for a peak and one guy says we are arrogant for a school that's only successful program is women's basketball, another guy admits we have won 1 championship. Iowa State has done nothing outside of wrestling, it's amazing how some fan bases have such high opinions of themselves when they have accomplished nothing on the national level. I respect their team but am surprised by how little the fans seem to know.

It's easy to pick out a few bad fans on any message board. As a fan of Iowa State for the last 25 years here is what I can tell you:

UConn
The normal ISU fans has a lot of respect for the UConn mens basketball team and it's tradition. We put the UConn tradition in the same league as Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, etc. We know that we don't have a traditional powerhouse. I actually felt a little bad in 2011 that ISU was the last game for Calhoun.

Iowa State Tradition
In short, we haven't been a powerhouse in any sport. All the ISU fans know this very well. The one thing we can hang our hats on is that we have die hard fans. Very few schools have 17,000 fans drive 230 miles to see their team play. Just for reference, Hartford to NYC is 100 less miles and I'll be surprised if UConn brings 1/2 that number to a bigger game. Our fans do get annoyed that no one knows anything about our programs. We get annoyed that we often get called the Hawkeyes, we get annoyed that people think everyone in Iowa is a farmer (less than 5%), we get annoyed that when our local sport station called 3 people in NC and asked them what they knew about Iowa they said #1 Illinois was the capital city of Iowa, #2 The Iowa team they were playing are called the cornhuskers, #3 Iowa is known for potatoes.

Iowa State Team
We don't get the elite players like the powerhouse schools. Hell we have a hard time keeping the kids in Iowa. Not a lot of people expected much out of ISU this year. I believe we were expected to finish mid pack in the Big 12. With all that said, many of us believe that we have the best basketball coach in America. If you closely watch games against teams like Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. you'll see what a difference he makes. Hoiberg is big on mismatches and he has the players to make this happen. Unfortunately, our biggest mismatch was George Niang. Our defense is average.
ISU plays well together as a team and you never know who is going to be star of the show. Besides Kansas, no one beats ISU at Hilton including teams like Michigan, OKSt, OU, Baylor, Iowa, etc.

Mascot-Broken Arm
The mascot was on cyclonefantic after the incident and it sounded like it was handled very poorly by the UConn staff. I think the "they want blood" should be more like "water under the bridge. Since that incident, both the football and basketball team has beaten UConn. It's more of a joke now.

 

[Leebo]

People love to bring up the success of the women's team like it's a negative. Can't help but think people who say stuff like that are raving sexists.

 

[August_West]

Yes there is. We generated disgust for opposing fan bases for both St Joes and Villanova. And we won. We are doing the same for Iowa St because it works.

They sicken me

 

[Huskybass]

It's easy to pick out a few bad fans on any message board. As a fan of Iowa State for the last 25 years here is what I can tell you:

UConn
The normal ISU fans has a lot of respect for the UConn mens basketball team and it's tradition. We put the UConn tradition in the same league as Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, etc. We know that we don't have a traditional powerhouse. I actually felt a little bad in 2011 that ISU was the last game for Calhoun.

Iowa State Tradition
In short, we haven't been a powerhouse in any sport. All the ISU fans know this very well. The one thing we can hang our hats on is that we have die hard fans. Very few schools have 17,000 fans drive 230 miles to see their team play. Just for reference, Hartford to NYC is 100 less miles and I'll be surprised if UConn brings 1/2 that number to a bigger game. Our fans do get annoyed that no one knows anything about our programs. We get annoyed that we often get called the Hawkeyes, we get annoyed that people think everyone in Iowa is a farmer (less than 5%), we get annoyed that when our local sport station called 3 people in NC and asked them what they knew about Iowa they said #1 Illinois was the capital city of Iowa, #2 The Iowa team they were playing are called the cornhuskers, #3 Iowa is known for potatoes.

Iowa State Team
We don't get the elite players like the powerhouse schools. Hell we have a hard time keeping the kids in Iowa. Not a lot of people expected much out of ISU this year. I believe we were expected to finish mid pack in the Big 12. With all that said, many of us believe that we have the best basketball coach in America. If you closely watch games against teams like Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. you'll see what a difference he makes. Hoiberg is big on mismatches and he has the players to make this happen. Unfortunately, our biggest mismatch was George Niang. Our defense is average.
ISU plays well together as a team and you never know who is going to be star of the show. Besides Kansas, no one beats ISU at Hilton including teams like Michigan, OKSt, OU, Baylor, Iowa, etc.

Mascot-Broken Arm
The mascot was on cyclonefantic after the incident and it sounded like it was handled very poorly by the UConn staff. I think the "they want blood" should be more like "water under the bridge. Since that incident, both the football and basketball team has beaten UConn. It's more of a joke now.

Thanks for your input. You seem like a good fan who doesn't try to twist things. You reference 2011 though, Kemba and co. were cutting down nets in 2011. Calhoun's last game was in March of 2012.

 

[dmclone1]

Thanks for your input. You seem like a good fan who doesn't try to twist things. You reference 2011 though, Kemba and co. were cutting down nets in 2011. Calhoun's last game was in March of 2012.

My bad, I knew it was 2 years ago but I was still thinking it was currently 2013

 

[mauconnfan]

It's easy to pick out a few bad fans on any message board. As a fan of Iowa State for the last 25 years here is what I can tell you:

UConn
The normal ISU fans has a lot of respect for the UConn mens basketball team and it's tradition. We put the UConn tradition in the same league as Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, etc. We know that we don't have a traditional powerhouse. I actually felt a little bad in 2011 that ISU was the last game for Calhoun.

Iowa State Tradition
In short, we haven't been a powerhouse in any sport. All the ISU fans know this very well. The one thing we can hang our hats on is that we have die hard fans. Very few schools have 17,000 fans drive 230 miles to see their team play. Just for reference, Hartford to NYC is 100 less miles and I'll be surprised if UConn brings 1/2 that number to a bigger game. Our fans do get annoyed that no one knows anything about our programs. We get annoyed that we often get called the Hawkeyes, we get annoyed that people think everyone in Iowa is a farmer (less than 5%), we get annoyed that when our local sport station called 3 people in NC and asked them what they knew about Iowa they said #1 Illinois was the capital city of Iowa, #2 The Iowa team they were playing are called the cornhuskers, #3 Iowa is known for potatoes.

Iowa State Team
We don't get the elite players like the powerhouse schools. Hell we have a hard time keeping the kids in Iowa. Not a lot of people expected much out of ISU this year. I believe we were expected to finish mid pack in the Big 12. With all that said, many of us believe that we have the best basketball coach in America. If you closely watch games against teams like Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. you'll see what a difference he makes. Hoiberg is big on mismatches and he has the players to make this happen. Unfortunately, our biggest mismatch was George Niang. Our defense is average.
ISU plays well together as a team and you never know who is going to be star of the show. Besides Kansas, no one beats ISU at Hilton including teams like Michigan, OKSt, OU, Baylor, Iowa, etc.

Mascot-Broken Arm
The mascot was on cyclonefantic after the incident and it sounded like it was handled very poorly by the UConn staff. I think the "they want blood" should be more like "water under the bridge. Since that incident, both the football and basketball team has beaten UConn. It's more of a joke now.

Good stuff thanks for the reply………..there's a lot of respect for the Cyclones here I believe, I know I have been a fan of Fred's teams and like the way they play. Entertaining offensively for sure, he finds shooters and if these people watched Fred play from his days in Ames through his NBA career they'd know why he likes shooters so much. The fact that shooting is a lost art amongst the AAU teams is great for fred as he gets his recruits outside the limelight of the AA's and looks for the cohesiveness within his system…….he does a great job and even without Niang they have weapons galore and are a few 3's away from closing a gap, if there is one!

Thanks for dropping by and good lu………..sorry can't do it!!