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mauconnfan said:
Nothing unusual there though right? He didn't even shake his wrist/hand. Thought it was dislocated to torn off the way he acted.
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My biggest issue with LeBron last night was him putting up and waving his 3 fingers when he got to the podium, that was a selfish act, a self involved act, the Cavs haven't won 3 of anything, that bothered me and even though he said all the right things after the game, that action shows that he is much more concern with his own legacy than winning a title for the Cavs and the city of Cleveland.

This is coming from someone who has root and supported him throughout this year's playoffs.
 
These conversations never end, Jordan never passed the 1st round without Scottie Pippen, he never won a title without the Zen Master. Lebron won with a rookie head coach, and 2 unproven coaches. Lebron detractors will say well Lebron had Kyrie Irving (who was awesome in this series btw), Lebron needed Ray to bail him out in 2013.
 
EBonz30 said:
My biggest issue with LeBron last night was him putting up and waving his 3 fingers when he got to the podium, that was a selfish act, a self involved act, the Cavs haven't won 3 of anything, that bothered me and even though he said all the right things after the game, that action shows that he is much more concern with his own legacy than winning a title for the Cavs and the city of Cleveland.

This is coming from someone who has root and supported him throughout this year's playoffs.
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So what, you have to have a bit of an ego to win as an NBA superstar, without that mindset the Cavs dont come back in the series, Lebron did the anti 2011 Finals performance where he had shied away and was too nice in that series.
 
EBonz30 said:
My biggest issue with LeBron last night was him putting up and waving his 3 fingers when he got to the podium, that was a selfish act, a self involved act, the Cavs haven't won 3 of anything, that bothered me and even though he said all the right things after the game, that action shows that he is much more concern with his own legacy than winning a title for the Cavs and the city of Cleveland.

This is coming from someone who has root and supported him throughout this year's playoffs.
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The sudden move to the floor in prayer like kneel too, sorry wasn't real. He's a great player as all say, tremendous, but even when Doris asked the question how the Cav's did it he thought to answer about how HE focused not the team. He has become all about him, not different from others mind you, but he's not as humble as so many believe him to be. He was at one time, huge change though.
 
Scoe said:
So what, you have to have a bit of an ego to win as an NBA superstar, without that mindset the Cavs dont come back in the series, Lebron did the anti 2011 Finals performance where he had shied away and was too nice in that series.
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Not a good look in my view...

Not that it took away from any of his greatness, Like I've said over the last few months all over all these NBA threads, LeBron is one of the greatest 3 NBA players of all time.

Greatest athlete in any sport that I've ever seen besides Michael Jordan, haven't seen anyone better, guy is unreal.
 
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UconnFanNVa said:
Now as for this championship, I give him credit for winning his first chip!!! Yup i dont count the 2 with the heat (just my personal opinion). PLaying with Kyrie (not known as a great defender) and Love (another defensively challenged, and sometimes offensively challenged player), Tristain Thompson (overrated at best), and Jr Smith (nuff said). Taking a group that like and turning them into a championship team after being down 3-1? This is a championship he earned.
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I guess by this logic Kobe doesn't have 6 titles then since the ones with Shaq don't count. And Curry is at 0 too because he has Thompson, Green, and Iguodala on his teams.

Yeah it's your personal opinion, but what a moronic opinion to have.
 
mauconnfan said:
The sudden move to the floor in prayer like kneel too, sorry wasn't real. He's a great player as all say, tremendous, but even when Doris asked the question how the Cav's did it he thought to answer about how HE focused not the team. He has become all about him, not different from others mind you, but he's not as humble as so many believe him to be. He was at one time, huge change though.
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Who in their right mind thinks he's humble? He was anointed the second coming when he was about 16 years old, which was probably the last time anyone could credibly call him "humble." It has not been a word associated with him for the duration of his professional career, so I'm not sure what this "huge change" is.

The best basketball player on earth who lives his life surrounded by yes-men and sycophants has an ego. It would be weird if he didn't at this point. Dissecting his reaction to winning a championship for the freaking Cleveland Cavaliers - a city so known for losing that it was the subject of a 30 for 30 and a team that immediately became the worst in the NBA when he left - is some peak Rick Reilly / Phil Mushnick type stuff.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Who in their right mind thinks he's humble? He was anointed the second coming when he was about 16 years old, which was probably the last time anyone could credibly call him "humble." It has not been a word associated with him for the duration of his professional career, so I'm not sure what this "huge change" is.

The best basketball player on earth who lives his life surrounded by yes-men and sycophants has an ego. It would be weird if he didn't at this point. Dissecting his reaction to winning a championship for the freaking Cleveland Cavaliers - a city so known for losing that it was the subject of a 30 for 30 and a team that immediately became the worst in the NBA when he left - is some peak Rick Reilly / Phil Mushnick type stuff.
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He was a very humble young man coming in and was until he decided to build his team in Miami. Call it what you want and really how would I expect you to agree with anything from anyone. And I did say "no different from others" not sure if you saw that or not? But anyway keep it coming then you can move onto 99 to tell him how he finally posted something worthy for you to read:rolleyes:
 
EBonz30 said:
Not a good look in my view...

Not that it took away from any of his greatness, Like I've said over the last few months all over all these NBA threads, LeBron is one of the greatest 3 NBA players of all time.

Greatest athlete in any sport that I've ever seen besides Michael Jordan, haven't seen anyone better, guy is unreal.
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The thing is we kill Lebron for being passive and being too nice of a guy i.e. 2011 Finals, the other day listening to Felger and Mazz they were killing Lebron for not having a killer instinct, he was a cold blooded assassin in these finals. One reason he went back to Cleveland was because he wanted to finish business obviously, also because he didnt want to be viewed as a guy who couldn't win a title without Wade or on a Riley team. We killed Lebron for joining forces in Miami being selfish when he was actually taking less money and not being the face of the franchise, now Lebron wanted to win it as the guy and knew what it took to do it. I dont disagree with Lebron having an ego but so did a lot of stars Jordan even Magic, Magic was the first star player to get a coach fired.
 
Scoe said:
The thing is we kill Lebron for being passive and being too nice of a guy i.e. 2011 Finals, the other day listening to Felger and Mazz they were killing Lebron for not having a killer instinct, he was a cold blooded assassin in these finals. One reason he went back to Cleveland was because he wanted to finish business obviously, also because he didnt want to be viewed as a guy who couldn't win a title without Wade or on a Riley team. We killed Lebron for joining forces in Miami being selfish when he was actually taking less money and not being the face of the franchise, now Lebron wanted to win it as the guy and knew what it took to do it. I dont disagree with Lebron having an ego but so did a lot of stars Jordan even Magic, Magic was the first star player to get a coach fired.
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I haven't killed LeBron at all and I am not for this...just thought it wasn't a good look when he did that, not gonna lie about it.

When I saw him do that my initial reaction is why would he do that since this is the first with the Cavs, then I thought about it and it was an obvious selfish gesture, self involved gesture, which is fine, I just don't think it's a good look.
 
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EBonz30 said:
I haven't killed LeBron at all and I am not for this...just thought it wasn't a good look when he did that, not gonna lie about it.

When I saw him do that my initial reaction is why would he do that since this is the first with the Cavs, then I thought about it and it was an obvious selfish gesture, self involved gesture, which is fine, I just don't think it's a good look.
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Ok I guess I won't change your opinion, maybe he got caught up in winning the title it happens. There is so much pressure on the guy pressure that none of us will ever know, pressure that a lot of athletes will never know. He looked emotionally and physically exhausted he played the entire game pretty much and was playing on fumes.
 
Scoe said:
Ok I guess I won't change your opinion, maybe he got caught up in winning the title it happens. There is so much pressure on the guy pressure that none of us will ever know, pressure that a lot of athletes will never know. He looked emotionally and physically exhausted he played the entire game pretty much and was playing on fumes.
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Guy played his heart out...

Made the impossible possible, down 3-1 in NBA finals verse the greatest regular season team of all time and the defending champion...

What does he do...

Game 5- 40+
Game 6- 40+
Game 7- Triple Double

Lead the series amongst both teams in all stats;

Points
Rebounds
Assists
Steals
Blocks

1st time ever...

Highest rated game in NBA history...
 
mauconnfan said:
The sudden move to the floor in prayer like kneel too, sorry wasn't real. He's a great player as all say, tremendous, but even when Doris asked the question how the Cav's did it he thought to answer about how HE focused not the team. He has become all about him, not different from others mind you, but he's not as humble as so many believe him to be. He was at one time, huge change though.
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He's not humble at all. It's understandable of course. People have been calling him 'The King' since he was in 8th grade.

The thing that bothers me, is that he actually TRIES to be the center of attention. He actually TRIES to make what he's doing seem more difficult/impressive than it already is. He wants you to know that he played hurt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he missed that first free throw on purpose, in order to make the second one more important/impressive, dramatic, whatever [note: I don't think he actually did that, just that it would not surprised me in the least]. He needs you to know that he that he gutted it out, against all odds. Contrast that to a guy like Jordan (extremely egotistical in his own right) who is just trying to rip your heart out.

Lebron is the Christiano Ronaldo of the basketball world. He too, will likely build a museum to himself in Cleveland.

I don't hate Lebron per se. His game speaks for itself. He's not a bad person, doesn't get arrested, beat his wife, or anything like that. I just dislike him because he's a complete tool bag.
 
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mauconnfan said:
The sudden move to the floor in prayer like kneel too, sorry wasn't real. He's a great player as all say, tremendous, but even when Doris asked the question how the Cav's did it he thought to answer about how HE focused not the team. He has become all about him, not different from others mind you, but he's not as humble as so many believe him to be. He was at one time, huge change though.
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You stuck around for the post-game interview too?
 
Lmao @LeBron haters

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intlzncster said:
He's not humble at all. It's understandable of course. People have been calling him 'The King' since he was in 8th grade.

The thing that bothers me, is that he actually TRIES to be the center of attention. He actually TRIES to make what he's doing seem more difficult/impressive than it already is. He wants you to know that he played hurt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he missed that first free throw on purpose, in order to make the second one more important/impressive, dramatic, whatever [note: I don't think he actually did that, just that it would not surprised me in the least]. He needs you to know that he that he gutted it out, against all odds. Contrast that to a guy like Jordan (extremely egotistical in his own right) who is just trying to rip your heart out.

Lebron is the Christiano Ronaldo of the basketball world. He too, will likely build a museum to himself in Cleveland.
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I don't know anything about Ronaldo, but it's hard to imagine he's the King good?
 
EBonz30 said:
I don't know anything about Ronaldo, but it's hard to imagine he's the King good?
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Well, he's been one of the top two players in the world for a decade now. He's got championships, MVPs, goal records etc. He's one of, if not the most famous player in the world (along with Messi). So they aren't all that far off. But Lebron is relatively higher historically in his sport, as well as has been unquestionably the best player in the world for a while.
 
intlzncster said:
Well, he's been one of the top two players in the world for a decade now. He's got championships, MVPs, goal records etc. He's one of, if not the most famous player in the world (along with Messi). So they aren't all that far off. But Lebron is relatively higher historically in his sport, as well as has been unquestionably the best player in the world for a while.
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The King is the King, most hyped athlete I've ever seen in my life and wow has the King lived up to every bit of that hype.

What an athlete he is, just in awe of what went on the last week, don't have enough adjectives.

It will be a sad sad day when the King hangs them up, I have been cherishing every moment from the King over the last couple of years.
 
UChusky916 said:
I guess by this logic Kobe doesn't have 6 titles then since the ones with Shaq don't count. And Curry is at 0 too because he has Thompson, Green, and Iguodala on his teams.

Yeah it's your personal opinion, but what a moronic opinion to have.
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Call it what you want, you are entitled to your opinion and i'm fine with that. I thought it stunk of a player he was scared that his legacy was heading down the path of never winning a ring. So lets take less money and me and wade and bosh team up, and lets get good role players to take pay cuts too. Some viewed it as amazing that a player would put winning over money. I saw and see it as a player he was scared for his legacy and bought a chip! My opinion.

Werent Kob and Shaq both on max contracts? Who was taking pay cuts to play together? This taking a pay cut, imo is equivalent to saying, to saying I will pay X amount of dollars towards a chip if you guys do it too (other teammates). Respect that or not, that is a personal choice. I dont respect it, and i think its cowardly. Those rings were gimmies. If Lebron, and Curry and Durant and West Brook and James harden all teamed up and all took significant pay cuts, I would look at all of them in the same light, I think its weak.
 
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Hilarious you're an "idiot" and a "hater" because you don't fall for the crap and don't like how he acts on the court?

You want stupid? LOL read some of that crap. The guys great sorry to disagree on pieces of his career though, how dare we? It did nothing to my life whether he won or lost but I believe this is a board for opinion.

I guess I need to stop at he's the KING and the best ever to satisfy the thin skinned pr**ks.
 
Lebron haters are gonna hate and Lebron homers are gonna home. Nothing new year. Lebron is a top 5 player of all time, his position doesn't matter moving on.
 
EBonz30 said:
The King is the King, most hyped athlete I've ever seen in my life and wow has the King lived up to every bit of that hype.

What an athlete he is, just in awe of what went on the last week, don't have enough adjectives.

It will be a sad sad day when the King hangs them up, I have been cherishing every moment from the King over the last couple of years.
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mauconnfan said:
I guess I need to stop at he's the KING and the best ever to satisfy the thin skinned pr**ks.
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Or just not make things up and pretend like they're factual.
 
Just saw the most amazing come back in basketball history, along with one of the most amazing individual performances, and here's what the BY produces:

Kobe was better.
LBJ went to Miami because he was worried about his legacy.
LBJ was faking it when he fell from about 9 feet up and slammed his arm on the ground, for the purpose of looking more heroic.
LBJ would be capable of intentionally missing the 1st of 2 free throws, with under a minute left, in a game 7, up only 3 points - GET THIS - to make himself look better when he hits the second.
LBJ wasn't really hurt when he was down, because he didn't shake his hand or rub his wrist.
LBJ demonstrated his selfishness and concern for self when he flashed 3 fingers.
LBJ's display of emotion and kneeling was fake.

I love it. Nothing more entertaining than watching the poor sports and haters after things don't go their way. This is second only to reading the Syracuse message board during the '14 run after every game as that fan base vomited all over itself for 2 weekends.
 
TasteofUConn said:
Just saw the most amazing come back in basketball history, along with one of the most amazing individual performances, and here's what the BY produces:

Kobe was better.
LBJ went to Miami because he was worried about his legacy.
LBJ was faking it when he fell from about 9 feet up and slammed his arm on the ground, for the purpose of looking more heroic.
LBJ would be capable of intentionally missing the 1st of 2 free throws, with under a minute left, in a game 7, up only 3 points - GET THIS - to make himself look better when he hits the second.
LBJ wasn't really hurt when he was down, because he didn't shake his hand or rub his wrist.
LBJ demonstrated his selfishness and concern for self when he flashed 3 fingers.
LBJ's display of emotion and kneeling was fake.

I love it. Nothing more entertaining than watching the poor sports and haters after things don't go their way. This is second only to reading the Syracuse message board during the '14 run after every game as that fan base vomited all over itself for 2 weekends.
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Lebron had a bottle of Champagne and a Cigar, around his kids what kind of example is he setting. How selfish he takes that whole bottle of champagne for himself.
 
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