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Kim Mulkey's Comments about Scandal

Let's not forget she also will pull players scholarships and force them to transfer just because she gets lucky on the recruiting trail. It's one thing to recruit over someone with a scholarship you aren't already using and letting the palyer sit on the bench, get better, or transfer because they choose to, quite another to offer a recruit the scholarship off one of your players backs.

The university and it's athletic departments are disasters, and Kim fits right in.
 
j66kicker said:
Actually there was a 'real' report. It came out about a month ago and is MUCH worse than the original summary. There is a big BY thread on it. The report was released right after Art Briles filed a wrongful termination suit. As soon as the report hit the press (1 day later) he withdrew his lawsuit. Briles will not work in the NCAA again for a long time, if ever. He was clearly complicit in rape cover-ups and victim blaming, and it is also now no secret why the University President (Kenneth Starr) and A.D. are gone.

The woman they subsequently hired to be their new Title IX Coordinator has already left, citing lack of cooperation from leadership. Even worse, key football boosters are STILL calling for Bryles to be rehired. One high-contributing $$ "rehire" guy was quoted as saying, "I was PROMISED a national championship!"
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We might be talking about different reports. It was the Philadelphia law firm Pepper Hamilton that was originally tasked with writing the report. PH still hasn't issued a full report, according to this:

http://deadspin.com/baylors-sexual-assault-scandal-still-no-report-still-1788615031


Baylor's Sexual Assault Scandal: Still No Report, Still Few Answers

Emma Baccellieri
11/05/16 1:25pmFiled to: ART BRILES

"Pepper Hamilton, the law firm responsible for independently analyzing the scandal, released a brief “findings of fact” in May that failed to address most of the details or to reveal who knew what and when—despite head coach Art Briles and university president Ken Starr being given pink slips.

"With no comprehensive report available from the investigation, members of the Board of Regents have begun sharing slightly different perspectives on how the university handled the scandal, with members of Baylor’s football coaching staff and athletic department pushing back. And with so little information available to fact-check these perspectives, discerning the truth is difficult. The Dallas Morning News reported this week that the regents were briefed on the Pepper Hamilton investigation twice in the spring, and local news station KWTX has reported that no recordings exist of those briefings and Pepper Hamilton provided nothing in writing...."

I think there have been court filings and newspaper reports. Just saying that the law firm Pepper Hamilton, which is the go-to firm for universities wishing to sweep sexual assault scandals under the rug, does not appear to have written a real report on what happened at Baylor. It's coming out in drips and drabs in other ways.

But I may be behind the curve on this, and BY might be ahead of it.

Bottom line is that Baylor has treated women students miserably. So much for their Christian ethos.
 
Plebe said:
I actually like Kim, unlike many of the posters here, but this is just a really, really, really bad look for her (yes that's three "reallys"). I realize she got a whoop and holler from the crowd on senior night, but not a good look to anyone seeing it from the outside.

I get that coaches by default are PR shills for their employers, and I get that she must be feeling that a protracted scandal like this will hinder her recruiting. But man, to appear to be minimizing the significance of sexual assault. Not good.
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I have to say that it is a horrible "look" for those on the "inside" as well. This is the sanctimonious Baptist school that claims it's different because of its religious doctrines. Yet basketball fans actually cheer Mulkey when she advocates hitting in the face any parents concerned about their daughters' safety at Baylor? Absolutely shameful.

I think that a UConn coach would have been forced to resign within 36 hours of making such an outrageous remark. But, of course, this is Connecticut.
 
Baylor is the best university in America. Hey Kim, you should take a trip up to the northeast: we got Penn, Yale, Princeton, Harvard, MIT, Dartmouth, Cornell, Johns Hopkins, George Washington, Brown. LOL at these southern schools thinking they are even in the same universe.
 
The best we can say for Kim's statement is that it's unfortunate. If I were a parent whose kid was considering Baylor (and that would NEVER happen, believe me, for several reasons, even before the rapes), I certainly would now do everything I could to ensure that my daughter did not go there. People who question the horrible behavior of students and then the cover-up -- especially the cover-up -- do not deserve to get one upside the head.,
 
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Fairfield Fan said:
We might be talking about different reports. It was the Philadelphia law firm Pepper Hamilton that was originally tasked with writing the report. PH still hasn't issued a full report, according to this:

http://deadspin.com/baylors-sexual-assault-scandal-still-no-report-still-1788615031


Baylor's Sexual Assault Scandal: Still No Report, Still Few Answers

Emma Baccellieri
11/05/16 1:25pmFiled to: ART BRILES

"Pepper Hamilton, the law firm responsible for independently analyzing the scandal, released a brief “findings of fact” in May that failed to address most of the details or to reveal who knew what and when—despite head coach Art Briles and university president Ken Starr being given pink slips.

"With no comprehensive report available from the investigation, members of the Board of Regents have begun sharing slightly different perspectives on how the university handled the scandal, with members of Baylor’s football coaching staff and athletic department pushing back. And with so little information available to fact-check these perspectives, discerning the truth is difficult. The Dallas Morning News reported this week that the regents were briefed on the Pepper Hamilton investigation twice in the spring, and local news station KWTX has reported that no recordings exist of those briefings and Pepper Hamilton provided nothing in writing...."

I think there have been court filings and newspaper reports. Just saying that the law firm Pepper Hamilton, which is the go-to firm for universities wishing to sweep sexual assault scandals under the rug, does not appear to have written a real report on what happened at Baylor. It's coming out in drips and drabs in other ways.

But I may be behind the curve on this, and BY might be ahead of it.

Bottom line is that Baylor has treated women students miserably. So much for their Christian ethos.
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Your article was from last November. Around Feb 1 Baylor released a bunch of new stuff Pepper had uncovered, as their response to Briles' wrongful termination on suit. He dropped his suit on Feb 3. The new info included numerous incriminating (and fantastical) text messages harvested off Briles' university-owned cell phone. Here is a very brief summary, but it only glosses the surface.

The Art Briles Texts Show the Baylor Scandal Is Worse Than We Thought
 
j66kicker said:
Your article was from last November. Around Feb 1 Baylor released a bunch of new stuff Pepper had uncovered, as their response to Briles' wrongful ternate on suit. He dropped his suit on Feb 3. The new info included numerous incriminating (and fantastical) text messages harvested off Briles' university-owned cell phone. Here is a very brief summary, but it only glosses the surface.

The Art Briles Texts Show the Baylor Scandal Is Worse Than We Thought
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Pepper? Do you mean Hamilton-Pepper? The same company that investigated the Sandusky thing at Penn State and did a terrible job? Hamilton-Pepper will pretty much rubber stamp whatever you want them to as long as you pay them enough money.
 
I know we have moved into the era where stupidity is confused with virtue, but whatever little respect I've had for Mulkey is evaporated. At any other school, she'd be risking contract termination. At Baylor, her hate-spew is an applause line. Really bad stuff from a coach who previously stayed out of the line of fire.
 
Yesterday or the day before, in the Alexis Jones injury thread, I was gonna write that Kim always rubbed me the wrong way. I was also gonna say that I don't know why top players continue to want to play for her. I know they win, but I don't think it stays at this level that much longer. Even before I heard this news, I just could sense something isn't right there.
 
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Kim quite obviously has difficulties controlling her emotions. There is something beyond the simple consideration of being highly competitive that takes hold of her and makes her do or say unfortunate things. Most of the time these days, when she's faced with situations that would bring on her demons, she smiles. Obviously, she's practicing some sort of behavior modification, and it's admirable that she's been addressing it. The problem is that she has a really, really high stress job, in which there are situations and triggers that she just can't get on top of.

Similar demons ruined the career of one of the transcendently great coaches of all time--Bobby Knight. Kim is a long, long way from that, but she is edging into dangerous territory with this rhetoric and needs to be very careful. I hope she has friends and family who can be helpful to her in an honest way.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
Pepper? Do you mean Hamilton-Pepper? The same company that investigated the Sandusky thing at Penn State and did a terrible job? Hamilton-Pepper will pretty much rubber stamp whatever you want them to as long as you pay them enough money.
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Yes that Pepper Hamilton and, yes, that appeared to be the plan. But, as evidenced by the stuff Baylor recently released, they did an exhaustively thorough job. They and Baylor just didn't release it publicly - until this month. The Pepper material Baylor itself finally released was extremely damning.
 
I would bet that nothing will come of Mulkey's comments.........perhaps a few more players will find their way to Texas or Texas A&M but I suspect both Kim and Baylor aren't going anywhere
 
bags27 said:
Kim quite obviously has difficulties controlling her emotions. There is something beyond the simple consideration of being highly competitive that takes hold of her and makes her do or say unfortunate things. Most of the time these days, when she's faced with situations that would bring on her demons, she smiles. Obviously, she's practicing some sort of behavior modification, and it's admirable that she's been addressing it. The problem is that she has a really, really high stress job, in which there are situations and triggers that she just can't get on top of.

Similar demons ruined the career of one of the transcendently great coaches of all time--Bobby Knight. Kim is a long, long way from that, but she is edging into dangerous territory with this rhetoric and needs to be very careful. I hope she has friends and family who can be helpful to her in an honest way.
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I agree. Somehow however I don't see a retraction coming from her end any time soon.
 
Until now, I at least had respect for Kim's coaching. Now, however, I cannot see how anyone who said what she said could e seen as fit to serve as a leadership example for a women's college basketball team. I don't imagine there will be any enlightened Baylor women who protest Kim's words, but there should be.
 
Kim is a good coach, but quite obviously a SHILL for Baylor.... 52 unreported sexual assaults.... and folks that is just attributable to the football team !! And what about suppressing B Griner and her sexuality.... hiding it publicly for her time there.... Baylor for all its preaching about being a God loving university, sure doesn't love abiding by the law
 
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bags27 said:
Kim quite obviously has difficulties controlling her emotions. There is something beyond the simple consideration of being highly competitive that takes hold of her and makes her do or say unfortunate things. Most of the time these days, when she's faced with situations that would bring on her demons, she smiles. Obviously, she's practicing some sort of behavior modification, and it's admirable that she's been addressing it. The problem is that she has a really, really high stress job, in which there are situations and triggers that she just can't get on top of.

Similar demons ruined the career of one of the transcendently great coaches of all time--Bobby Knight. Kim is a long, long way from that, but she is edging into dangerous territory with this rhetoric and needs to be very careful. I hope she has friends and family who can be helpful to her in an honest way.
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Nice post, my friend. Yours is a humane perspective.
 
JordyG said:
I'd like to jump on the bandwagon and say so. But despite my personal thoughts on the presidency this is a cultural thing that has been building for some time, and the evidence is everywhere. Courtesy, thoughtfulness and gentility are disappearing. There is an idea that right is wrong and wrong is right in our culture. People no longer talk to each other but talk at each other. We have become less tolerant of faults in others and have become more self absorbed. The idea that all problems can be solved through anger and force has become part of our society. Kim is just echoing an attitude of might make right that prevails in our society. That dissent or any variation from your point of view should be squashed or is un-American.

Now that I'm finished you kids get the hell out of my yard, and I'm keeping the last two balls that I've found.
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You go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you are correct - this has been a long standing issue. And not at all isolated or specific to politics. If you want a dose of it, go read the Rutgers message board about CVS.
 
I had gotten a kick out of Ms. Mulkeys shenanigans in the past. I had tried to give her the benefit of the doubt and guessed that Baylor 's homophobic treatment of Britney was an institutional issue beyond her control. This is so out of line its certifiable.

Kudos to Bags for taking a genuinely golden rule view of her situation, but I myself have to condemn her statements. She is acting reprehensibly.
 
Plebe said:
I actually like Kim, unlike many of the posters here, but this is just a really, really, really bad look for her (yes that's three "reallys"). I realize she got a whoop and holler from the crowd on senior night, but not a good look to anyone seeing it from the outside.

I get that coaches by default are PR shills for their employers, and I get that she must be feeling that a protracted scandal like this will hinder her recruiting. But man, to appear to be minimizing the significance of sexual assault. Not good.
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That response from that crowd tells us a lot about that crowd doesn't it?
 
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JordyG said:
Yeah great Kim; and if people persist in lending their voices against rape and violence, kill them. If their families complain, beat them up too. I'm with Coco here. My stance on Kim here is rapidly evolving.
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"Devolving". Admirable she wanted to stick up for her school and even somewhat right that assaults and crimes occur at a all other major universities, however what is very off base is the level of crimes committed by a sports program, a major cover up executed by the coach and HER ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT and her comment to "punch them in the face" well I am just dumbfounded by her lack of a brain. As a person who also greatly respected her competitiveness and her contributions, I too am re-evaluating those sentiments. Just sad.
 
The article was very interesting.

Most commentators felt that disparaging the entire state of Texas was somehow appropriate.

There are 28 Million people here spread out over 268,000 Square Miles.

The hate and vitriol spewing out of their mouths must make everyone who is disparaging Kim M, for trying to defend her school (Not that I agree with her choice of words, but I understand her passion), look very sick. Nice group to be part of. Hope you are proud.

If you have to hate Kim, Choose your words with care lest you show the extremely poor judgement shown by the commentators on this article. AND make Kim look like a saint in comparison.

I found the comments MUCH more offending than what Kim said. I very much hope that UConn fans were not a part of this group. If the rest of the country feels Texas is to blame for Baylor's actions and Kim's words, then I'd rather live in Texas, even with Baylor, than in any one of your states.

Ed: had to spell correct then, from than
 
watanabe said:
The article was very interesting.

Most commentators felt that disparaging the entire state of Texas was somehow appropriate.

There are 28 Million people here spread out over 268,000 Square Miles.

The hate and vitriol spewing out of their mouths must make everyone who is disparaging Kim M, for trying to defend her school (Not that I agree with her choice of words, but I understand her passion), look very sick. Nice group to be part of. Hope you are proud.

If you have to hate Kim, Choose your words with care lest you show the extremely poor judgement shown by the commentators on this article. AND make Kim look like a saint in comparison.

I found the comments MUCH more offending than what Kim said. I very much hope that UConn fans were not a part of this group. If the rest of the country feels Texas is to blame for Baylor's actions and Kim's words, then I'd rather live in Texas, even with Baylor, than in any one of your states.

Ed: had to spell correct then, from than
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Please read the comments on this board, where you are posting this reply. I didn't read single one that mentioned the State of Texas. I think the tone of all the posters was more than civil!

I google searched news on the issue and happily found the Dallas paper reported her statements and the overwhelming tone of comments there condemn Kim too!
 
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Not a matter of "choice of words" (although she does seem rather tone deaf), but rather the attitude expressed by Kim that is offensive. She either didn't read the report, didn't understand it, or is blind to its implications. Baylor is, of course, not the only university which has had incidents of rape, but it has had more than its share and its athletic department and administration have been unusually callous and dismissive of charges and much more eager to hush them up than the great majority of schools. This according the report commissioned by the university itself. And "most of the commenters did NOT hold the State of Texas nor the City of Waco responsible; that is horse hockey.
 
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