Kim Mulkey's Comments about Scandal

[SCGamecock]

http://deadspin.com/baylors-kim-mul...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Poor choice of words by Kim. Must be hearing from some Recruits and/or Families why they won't attend Baylor or send their kids to Baylor

I like Mulkey.. but this sounded like a recruiting pitch to me.. not a particularly wise one in light of everything going on with the football program. I think it was the tone and how she said it that threw people off.. not necessarily what she said.

FWIW, Baylor did have a few recruits on hand tonight for the big win, including NaLyssa Smith.

I don't think Mulkey really meant any harm (hardly anybody ever does, but still) by any of this, she's just pitching to recruit's parents.

 

[Zorro]

And Baylor is not even the best damn school in Texas. Not even third best.

 

[Charliebball]

The article was very interesting.

Most commentators felt that disparaging the entire state of Texas was somehow appropriate.

If you have to hate Kim, Choose your words with care lest you show the extremely poor judgement shown by the commentators on this article. AND make Kim look like a saint in comparison.

I found the comments MUCH more offending than what Kim said. I very much hope that UConn fans were not a part of this group. If the rest of the country feels Texas is to blame for Baylor's actions and Kim's words, then I'd rather live in Texas, even with Baylor, than in any one of your state

I don't believe anybody here is disparaging Texas or Texans, rather there seems to be a common theme.......Coach Mulkey not only chose her words poorly, she basically called for concerned parents to be chastised if not physically attacked, for questioning whether Baylor was a safe place for their daughters to attend college..........perhaps she should revisit her position as a coach and supposed role model for the young women at Baylor University

 

[Charliebball]

I like Mulkey.. but this sounded like a recruiting pitch to me.. not a particularly wise one in light of everything going on with the football program. I think it was the tone and how she said it that threw people off.. not necessarily what she said.

FWIW, Baylor did have a few recruits on hand tonight for the big win, including NaLyssa Smith.

I don't think Mulkey really meant any harm (hardly anybody ever does, but still) by any of this, she's just pitching to recruit's parents.

there are too many other great programs around for the concerned parents of a recruit to have to worry about the issues at Baylor..........South Carolina being one of them............

 

[FASTEDDY]

News to Coach Mulkey:
Baylor IS NOT THE BEST at anything, not on the bball court or academically.

Sorry, Yes, Baylor is running away with the lead in on campus sexual assaults.

 

[Kibitzer]

I am missing the part where Coach Mulkey graciously thanked her seniors (and their parents) and paid tribute to them in accordance with established Senior Night tradition.

 

[FanHam]

Wow! What a shocking take on the matter! If Ms. Mulkey is tired of hearing about Baylor's unconscionable stonewalling of the claims of dozens of sexual assault victims, imagine how those victims must now feel: terrorized, violated, ignored and now indirectly demonized, publicly, by a high-profile university official.

One more head needs to roll in the wake of the scandal at Baylor University.

I can't fathom how Kim Mulkey can be so profoundly (and publicly) tone deaf on this matter. She is attempting to redirect Baylor's WCBB fans' anger and shame toward the victims of the dozens of sexual assaults because they have made her recruiting difficult. Shame on her. Shame on Baylor if her rant - and attitude - is left unpunished.

 

[Icebear]

Yeah, Mulkey's response to the series of assaults at Baylor is to say she'd like to threaten to assault someone. Good thinkin'.

 

[tonehill68]

This is one of those articles that when you read it, you say to yourself "this is a joke right? She couldn't have said that? No way she could have said that?" Then you shake your head in disgust and think about the foolish choice of words that works at a university where sexual assaults against women were unpunished for a quite a while. Imagine how these women feel? Mulkey already delivered a "knock in the face" to these ladies.

Poor choice of words and poor choice of timing to use them. This was Senior Day/Night and he likes of Alexis Prince, Nina Davis, etc deserved a better speech for the four years they put in.

 

[cordarone]

The article was very interesting.

Most commentators felt that disparaging the entire state of Texas was somehow appropriate.

There are 28 Million people here spread out over 268,000 Square Miles.

The hate and vitriol spewing out of their mouths must make everyone who is disparaging Kim M, for trying to defend her school (Not that I agree with her choice of words, but I understand her passion), look very sick. Nice group to be part of. Hope you are proud.

If you have to hate Kim, Choose your words with care lest you show the extremely poor judgement shown by the commentators on this article. AND make Kim look like a saint in comparison.

I found the comments MUCH more offending than what Kim said. I very much hope that UConn fans were not a part of this group. If the rest of the country feels Texas is to blame for Baylor's actions and Kim's words, then I'd rather live in Texas, even with Baylor, than in any one of your states.

Ed: had to spell correct then, from than

Just to point out the obvious, the commenter base of Deadspin and its ilk (see Jezebel) hew to a far different philosophy than a site like the Yard, one where provocation and hyperbole aren't out of the norm.
Not the first and won't be the last such site and it cuts across the social spectrum.
Doesn't make it right but if you don't like the way they choose to do things, complain to the management there.

 

[mbr33ct]

Did Kim just take the spotlight away from the Senior Night festivities and made it about herself? If this did anything, it will deflect some attention away from Geno about some of his comments regarding Candice Wiggins!

 

[Wbbfan1]

Baylor women's coach Kim Mulkey so wrong to tell fans to attack BU critics

Kim's comments are being condemned in many circles and haven't helped Baylor in their attempts to put this behind them.

 

[oldude]

So after a very satisfying victory by the Huskies yesterday, I went out to dinner with my much better half, and look at what I missed.

The biggest problem I have with Kim's comments is that she took the spotlight away from her seniors on a day that belonged to them.

Her comments are boorish and ill-considered. She obviously feels some overwhelming need to defend Baylor, but why?

Here's my best guess. Recruiting is a very tough business. Many coaches will say almost anything to sway a recruit their way, and the terrible events at Baylor are fodder for any recruiter, particularly in the talent-rich lone star state.

I suspect that Kim is hearing negative comments from recruits and their families. Maybe she received some bad news right before the game. She also feels the pressure from Karen Aston and the Longhorns who are closing the gap fast on the bears.

So Kim did what Kim does. She had a knee jerk reaction that does nothing to deal with the very serious issues that Baylor must confront in order to repair all the damage that was done not only by those football players who committed sexual assaults, but also by an uncaring and obstructionist coaching staff and administration.

 

[jcoton56]

Utterly tone deaf and disingeneous!

 

[Vowelguy]

When I first saw this thread title, I thought "Why is Kim commenting on Kerry Washington?"

 

[Fairfield Fan]

Yes that Pepper Hamilton and, yes, that appeared to be the plan. But, as evidenced by the stuff Baylor recently released, they did an exhaustively thorough job. They and Baylor just didn't release it publicly - until this month. The Pepper material Baylor itself finally released was extremely damning.

Pepper Hamilton didn't do the job it needed to do:

"As if all of that wasn’t bad enough, they also disclose that Pepper Hamilton, who were responsible for the purportedly unprecedented mea culpa, not only didn’t find every report of sexual assault, but weren’t even tasked with doing so. Here is how Thursday’s court filing describes what Pepper Hamilton did (emphasis added is mine):

"Pepper Hamilton was not assigned to probe every single sexual assault allegation at Baylor. It was not charged with determining the total number of alleged sexual assaults that were reported or allegedly occurred during a set time period. And it was not asked to determine the guilt or innocence of any or all of those accused of sexual assault. For this reason, Pepper Hamilton did not interview any of the accused.

"The vehicle for Pepper Hamilton’s task was a “stress test” of Baylor’s institutional response under Title IX. To conduct this stress test, Pepper Hamilton would identify and review a subset of specific cases focusing on Baylor’s institutional response and compliance (or lack thereof) with Title IX. The court document later states: “Again, it is important to note that this did not mean the law firm had identified all alleged sexual assaults.”

"Regents previously said that 17 women reported sexual or domestic assaults involving 19 players, including four alleged gang rapes, since 2011. Those numbers are different than those given in a recent Title IX suit, which said that football players committed 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, by 31 different football players in four years. Now consider both sets of numbers knowing that Pepper Hamilton was doing a “stress test.” Even the recent court filing from Baylor adds some fudging, now saying it’s 'at least' 17 women and 'at least' 19 football players..."

Pepper Hamilton helped contain the scandal, they didn't fully expose it. What they released was "damning," but what they didn't release was probably far worse.

If your alma mater hires Pepper Hamilton, you know that the fix is in!

 

[Stinger92860]

Wow, I hope she gets called on this big time. So Kim, would it be ok for a Baylor football player to punch a girl in the mouth if she refused sex with said player?

 

[Fairfield Fan]

Please read the comments on this board, where you are posting this reply. I didn't read single one that mentioned the State of Texas. I think the tone of all the posters was more than civil!

I google searched news on the issue and happily found the Dallas paper reported her statements and the overwhelming tone of comments there condemn Kim too!

I am a UConn fan. I am disgusted by Mulkey's comments. I feel that Baylor is guilty of gross hypocrisy. I believe that the rape culture that Baylor encouraged and then covered up is symptom of the corrosive culture of big-time football.

I would be one of those parents trying hard to dissuade my daughter from attending Baylor, one of those parents whom Mulkey urged to be hit in the face.

But you somehow believe what she said was right? That Baylor's cover-up was OK? If Texas culture is not to be condemned, I would like to hear from the millions of Texans who are outraged by this. Somehow, I'm not hearing it.

 

[Bronxjeff]

I am a UConn fan. I am disgusted by Mulkey's comments. I feel that Baylor is guilty of gross hypocrisy. I believe that the rape culture that Baylor encouraged and then covered up is symptom of the corrosive culture of big-time football.

I would be one of those parents trying hard to dissuade my daughter from attending Baylor, one of those parents whom Mulkey urged to be hit in the face.

But you somehow believe what she said was right? That Baylor's cover-up was OK? If Texas culture is not to be condemned, I would like to hear from the millions of Texans who are outraged by this. Somehow, I'm not hearing it.

I don't see how you read into my comments that I think what she said was right?
I was I believe correctly interpreting this board's overall tone of focusing condemnation on her statements and not spreading that to the entire State of Texas.

Please read my earlier posting as well.

 

[Zorro]

I am a UConn fan. I am disgusted by Mulkey's comments. I feel that Baylor is guilty of gross hypocrisy. I believe that the rape culture that Baylor encouraged and then covered up is symptom of the corrosive culture of big-time football.

I would be one of those parents trying hard to dissuade my daughter from attending Baylor, one of those parents whom Mulkey urged to be hit in the face.

But you somehow believe what she said was right? That Baylor's cover-up was OK? If Texas culture is not to be condemned, I would like to hear from the millions of Texans who are outraged by this. Somehow, I'm not hearing it.

I think that Bronxjeff was referring to the comments following the article (some of which, as msf pointed out, were pretty raw, and not the comments on this board. However, I saw very few, if any, of those comments holding the State of Texas responsible for the situation at Baylor.

 

[OldAlum]

"Knock them right in the face"? Wow, a college coach advocating violence if somebody voices an opinion different from yours? How can anyone defend that?
I understand defending your school and program, but this was wrong on so many levels and ultimately harmful. This is not something that should have been addressed at a senior game. And when it was, something more like "I can assure everyone that Baylor is a safe place for its students. We have new leadership that are working hard to ensure that the incidents in the past will be prevented as much as possible and addressed quickly and strongly if they do occur." would have worked much better. I might not believe it, but it is a better pitch than suggesting you hit them in the face

 

[BroadwayVa]

http://deadspin.com/baylors-kim-mul...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Poor choice of words by Kim. Must be hearing from some Recruits and/or Families why they won't attend Baylor or send their kids to Baylor

A few women came forward a few years ago at Uconn with similar complaints. i wonder how Geno would have been greeted had he said, as Ms Kim said: Knock them . (assume she meant punch them).
First I don't believe Geno is that stupid to make those comments on Senior nite.
My thoughts run from really really bad choice of words and time and place. To Thinking Kim was only protecting her turf--but badly. My question is: When is a scandal over? It happened, it shall by some always perceived as Scandal for some always a non issue, apparently Kim fits in the latter category.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Rape victims advocate: Baylor coach Kim Mulkey 'like Art Briles in a woman's body' after comments | SportsDay

 

[bags27]

The first step to healing is an apology. Kim absolutely needs to apologize. Because of electronic media, she can manage her message carefully that way. She (meaning her agent or Baylor's PR chief) can post or tweet in her name her love for and confidence in Baylor while condemning the actions of former football players.

This is a critical time for Mulkey. I listened to her comments after that last minute win against TX, and her emotional comportment was, frankly, worrisome. Nothing precisely what she said, but it was evident that she was on an emotional edge. As much as possible, she needs to stay away from the camera and live performance and let her people do the work for her.

Otherwise, if she lets the press hound her because of her statements last night, she will speak extemporaneously and, pugnacious as she is, she may well double down on her remarks and compound her problems to the point where things could get very bad for her.

 

[JellyBean]

Just glad that she realized that it was a poor choice of words. I now do not have to worry about her post game comments to her players.

 

[housekeys]

This is the basketball coaching equivalent of getting a technical foul called on her, with 10 seconds left, with her team down 1, with the ball. Not smart. BTW, I believe the above scenario, or similar, has happened to her in a game. I get her love and support for the school, but when the fire is burning, you do not throw gasoline on it.

 

[tomcat]

From what I can see, the folks who claim Kim's critics were dissing the State of Texas are simply tossing a straw man out there, hoping to deflect the arguments to something else. The criticism has little to do with the State of Texas itself, except, of course, that Texas is where Baylor happens to be located. Baylor defenders may feel that their best hope is to rally Texans around them by claiming that Texas itself is being criticized, but more discerning Texans will see through this tactic.

From a PR perspective, this is just one more thing for Baylor to deal with. Having worked at an educational institution for a number of years, I know that Baylor, like all of them, has many decent employees who do their best to make that university the best place it can possibly be. I'm sure they are hurting now and that their situation (thanks to stupidities like Kim's) won't b getting better any time soon.

 

[UcMiami]

I am not defending either Baylor or Kim her, but people need to realize that the sexual assault numbers at Baylor are not out of line with numbers reported by conscientious colleges and universities around the country. There is a real problem on college campuses everywhere. That does not let Baylor off the hook for the absolutely outrageous way they handled their cases, nor Kim for failing to recognize that the situation at Baylor is way out of line with issues at other institutions, and that the national spotlight is well deserved and that she should be having to field those questions on the recruiting trail. And if she is punching any off her recruits parents ... well, I suspect she isn't taking her own advice! And neither should her audience.

 

[Waquoit]

Just Baylor being Baylor

 

[FanHam]

I am not defending either Baylor or Kim her, but people need to realize that the sexual assault numbers at Baylor are not out of line with numbers reported by conscientious colleges and universities around the country. There is a real problem on college campuses everywhere. That does not let Baylor off the hook for the absolutely outrageous way they handled their cases, nor Kim for failing to recognize that the situation at Baylor is way out of line with issues at other institutions, and that the national spotlight is well deserved and that she should be having to field those questions on the recruiting trail. And if she is punching any off her recruits parents ... well, I suspect she isn't taking her own advice! And neither should her audience.

I beg to differ. 17 victims involving 19 football players, including four gang rapes, since 2011 CANNOT be "in line" with "numbers reported by conscientious colleges and universities". Can you provide comparable statistics for any university?