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huskymedic said:
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I wouldn't think the extra revenue would be worth it for the added expenses. This is not the same level of money as USC, etc. joining the B1G.

I think any MAC school would be foolish to do this. The MW was also interested in Toledo, but that all died down, so I'm guessing Toledo told them no in private to avoid public humiliation.

I think TV ratings wise, Northern Illinois is the top draw in the MAC. Ohio University is usually second. The Bobcats have had decent football going back to the Frank Solich days and have had a nice showing in bowl games the past 20 years. They just won the MAC Championship. They also have decent basketball most years and have a history of upsets when qualifying for the NCAA Tournament. The Bobcats are also tied for first with most all-time MAC basketball tournament championships at 7. Ohio University is an R1 Research Institution. Having said that, the Bobcats would be foolish to consider a move to the MW if the MW ever showed interest.

Teams that have left the MAC throughout history:

1. Butler 1946-1950
2. Cincinnati 1946-1953
3. Marshall 1954-1969; 1997-2005
4. Wayne (now Wayne State) - 1946-1947
5. Western Reserve (now Case Western Reserve) - 1946-1955
6. Northern Illinois 1975-1986; 1997-Present

Former football-only members of the MAC: (oldest to newest)
1. UCF - 2002/03 - 2004/005
2. Temple - 2007/08 - 2011/12
3. UMASS* - 2012/13 - 2015/16; joining MAC in all sports in 2025

Research/Academics Notable Schools: (just a list, not ranking them in any way to each other)
1. Buffalo - AAU/R1
2. Ohio - R1
3. Kent State - R1
4. UMass - R1
5. Miami (Ohio) - Public Ivy
 
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Non-key
jostar1 said:
The Conference Realignment Board is comedy gold.
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Non-key, just wanted to add to the comedy of FSU pulling a Jack Sparrow:

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Firmly believe there's going to be a big correction with coaches salary. Long gone are the days of $10+ million coaches
 
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gioff2323 said:
It’s effectively a 1 year deal, with 4 1 year options to renew due to virtually no buyout after a year.
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A: Does it pay $10M+ per or not?
B: If yes, why are you wasting our time with this?
C: How do contracts with a 3-year guarantee become "effectively a 1 year deal"? How is that worded?
 
UConnJim said:
UNC just signed Belichick to a $10 million deal.
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You right, instead of are gone should have said will be gone.

Just in the last 2 weeks we've had 3 P4 coaches restructure their contracts to lower their pay and use the savings to pay the roster.
 
How Sway?! said:
You right, instead of are gone should have said will be gone.

Just in the last 2 weeks we've had 3 P4 coaches restructure their contracts to lower their pay and use the savings to pay the roster.
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The coaches restructuring their contracts are struggling. If the coach wins and the fanbase is behind him, I doubt their contracts will be restructured as they will move on to the next job. How long did Harbaugh stay at Michigan after Manuel cut his pay? I would agree that the rate of salary increases will temper, but schools want to win and they will pay up to win.
 
UConnJim said:
The coaches restructuring their contracts are struggling. If the coach wins and the fanbase is behind him, I doubt their contracts will be restructured as they will move on to the next job. How long did Harbaugh stay at Michigan after Manuel cut his pay? I would agree that the rate of salary increases will temper, but schools want to win and they will pay up to win.
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I think new coaches will be hired at lower salaries than existing coaches, and the days of the massive coaching contracts will be ending. In the old days, a coach was the program. Now the coach is a part of the program, along with a GM, NIL Advisor and full talent scout team. The players are obviously going to be taking a big bite out of athletic budget. The coach’s value is declining, and they are becoming more easily replaceable.
 
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The coaches will still matter. NIL only gets you so far. Calipari had all the money in the world and he still couldn’t dominate. The key will be to put it all together. Great coaches getting great talent will rule the game, same as always. The only big difference is you don’t have to cheat to do it.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
I think new coaches will be hired at lower salaries than existing coaches, and the days of the massive coaching contracts will be ending. In the old days, a coach was the program. Now the coach is a part of the program, along with a GM, NIL Advisor and full talent scout team. The players are obviously going to be taking a big bite out of athletic budget. The coach’s value is declining, and they are becoming more easily replaceable.
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I don't see that happening. A salary cap will be created to limit the players' pay, and coaches will end up making even more money than before. The players are still more expendable than the coaches.
 
champs99and04 said:
I don't see that happening. A salary cap will be created to limit the players' pay, and coaches will end up making even more money than before. The players are still more expendable than the coaches.
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They can't cap unless there is collectice bargaining.

Free market will sort this out. Sport sucks now, but that is what we wanted.

But for this kind of money, the ncaa or even conferences cant set a limit of compensation that they all agree too. Not without player consent, or it is an antitrust violation.
 
JohnFSilver said:
They can't cap unless there is collectice bargaining.

Free market will sort this out. Sport sucks now, but that is what we wanted.

But for this kind of money, the ncaa or even conferences cant set a limit of compensation that they all agree too. Not without player consent, or it is an antitrust violation.
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They really effed up the sport wasn’t this thinking kind of quaint?

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nelsonmuntz said:
The coach’s value is declining, and they are becoming more easily replaceable.
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I completely disagree with this point. Yes, the money is very important, but the head coach is much more valuable in an era where players can move at will as you need a coach that players want to play for or they will leave. Look at what is happening at USC right now as the top players don't seem to want to play for Lincoln Riley even though the NIL money is good. Look at Liam McNeeley. He was committed to Indiana but came to UConn because of Hurley not because of the money. Does McNeeley come to UConn if Hurley went to the Lakers and, say, Tom Moore became head coach? No.
 
JohnFSilver said:
They can't cap unless there is collectice bargaining.

Free market will sort this out. Sport sucks now, but that is what we wanted.

But for this kind of money, the ncaa or even conferences cant set a limit of compensation that they all agree too. Not without player consent, or it is an antitrust violation.
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Any sort of collective bargaining is going to be hard for the players because they all have very different agendas. Star players will make far less than market value on the surface in order to subsidize paying the players that aren't worth anything. Endorsement/booster money will then be used under the table to steer the top kids towards the biggest brands.

In other words, same as it ever was.
 
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champs99and04 said:
I don't see that happening. A salary cap will be created to limit the players' pay, and coaches will end up making even more money than before. The players are still more expendable than the coaches.
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What I am saying is not that different than what you are saying. We are less than two years away from a top transfer telling a program that he will come if the program replaces the coach.

Imagine what happens if an agent calls a .500 school and says that if the school hires his coach, he will deliver 10 transfers. How quickly is the incumbent fired?
 
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