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freescooter said:
Or it will not work as they think. Potential problems for lesser teams, and how will Alabama feel about adding a potential loss to, let’s say Ohio State, the schedule? Plus I’m not sure how different it is from just regular scheduling unless you have “ inter-league day” mid-season and line up the games then so you know you are getting top teams against top teams. Not so sure a 4-3 Alabama vs a 5-2 Michigan is goi g to be a huge draw. I know what they WANT to do. Just not sure it will work as they expect.
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Also, the tough scheduling could cost them at large bids. If Alabama ends up 8-4 they could miss the playoffs if the ACC and Big 12 have 10-2 teams under consideration.
 
freescooter said:
Or it will not work as they think. Potential problems for lesser teams, and how will Alabama feel about adding a potential loss to, let’s say Ohio State, the schedule? Plus I’m not sure how different it is from just regular scheduling unless you have “ inter-league day” mid-season and line up the games then so you know you are getting top teams against top teams. Not so sure a 4-3 Alabama vs a 5-2 Michigan is goi g to be a huge draw. I know what they WANT to do. Just not sure it will work as they expect.
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BlueHen said:
Also, the tough scheduling could cost them at large bids. If Alabama ends up 8-4 they could miss the playoffs if the ACC and Big 12 have 10-2 teams under consideration.
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That’s the thing though. The SEC/B1G are already angling for 4 auto berths per year (8 out of 12). This scheduling alliance will not harm them against other conferences.
 
It won’t. They’ll point to the strength of schedule saying they’d be 10-2 as well if they got to play Wake Forest and Cal, instead of Penn State or Tennessee non-conference.

The more they isolate themselves from playing the lessor P4 conferences, the harder the distinction becomes that it’s really a P2 and M2 because you can’t point to examples where a top P2 or average P2 is similar to a top or average M2.

That ultimately lets them claim 3 autobids each, with auto bids for the next 3 top conference champions and at larges for the other 3 spots (or perhaps 5 at larges with the P2 champs getting byes to the second round and the other conference champs having to make it through the first round).
 
I know its not realistic. but since the Big10 and SEC are eventually going to try and take everything. Does it make sense for everyone else to break off first. ACC, Big 12 and Big East makes for damn fine basketball along with all the other mid major conferences that would easily dwarf what the BIG 2 can do and the football isnt all that horrendous either and would at a minimum take some of the legitamacy of the Big2. Just set up a separate football division and do their own bowl games etc. Pretend the Big2 doesnt exist.
 
Revrat said:
I know its not realistic. but since the Big10 and SEC are eventually going to try and take everything. Does it make sense for everyone else to break off first. ACC, Big 12 and Big East makes for damn fine basketball along with all the other mid major conferences that would easily dwarf what the BIG 2 can do and the football isnt all that horrendous either and would at a minimum take some of the legitamacy of the Big2. Just set up a separate football division and do their own bowl games etc. Pretend the Big2 doesnt exist.
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basketball would be very good and entertaining, but basketball doesn't matter in all of this.
 
freescooter said:
Or it will not work as they think. Potential problems for lesser teams, and how will Alabama feel about adding a potential loss to, let’s say Ohio State, the schedule? Plus I’m not sure how different it is from just regular scheduling unless you have “ inter-league day” mid-season and line up the games then so you know you are getting top teams against top teams. Not so sure a 4-3 Alabama vs a 5-2 Michigan is goi g to be a huge draw. I know what they WANT to do. Just not sure it will work as they expect.
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Winner of Alabama vs. OSU won't matter. They'll both make the playoffs regardless.
 
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Revrat said:
I know its not realistic. but since the Big10 and SEC are eventually going to try and take everything. Does it make sense for everyone else to break off first. ACC, Big 12 and Big East makes for damn fine basketball along with all the other mid major conferences that would easily dwarf what the BIG 2 can do and the football isnt all that horrendous either and would at a minimum take some of the legitamacy of the Big2. Just set up a separate football division and do their own bowl games etc. Pretend the Big2 doesnt exist.
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Just ignore the P2. I've considered that for a while but the consensus is, that's what the P2 want.

 
Revrat said:
I know its not realistic. but since the Big10 and SEC are eventually going to try and take everything. Does it make sense for everyone else to break off first. ACC, Big 12 and Big East makes for damn fine basketball along with all the other mid major conferences that would easily dwarf what the BIG 2 can do and the football isnt all that horrendous either and would at a minimum take some of the legitamacy of the Big2. Just set up a separate football division and do their own bowl games etc. Pretend the Big2 doesnt exist.
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More likely is the SEC and B1G become the leagues. SEC is aligned with Disney/ABC/ESPN and B1G aligned with FOX. They'll keep their existing teams and absorb the rest as associate or affiliate members. Each side will run their own championships and the winner of the B1G and SEC will then play for a national championship. Rotate the championship game between FOX and Disney every other year.
64 teams. Each side takes 32 and has four divisions of 8.
 
While I don't want to see the MAC randomly cut up by bottom tier MWC, and don't think it'll happen, maybe it will induce Buffalo to finally look east for conference affiliation
 
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Urcea said:
While I don't want to see the MAC randomly cut up by bottom tier MWC, and don't think it'll happen, maybe it will induce Buffalo to finally look east for conference affiliation
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What eastern conference? They are closer to the MAC than the Sunbelt or others.
 
Chin Diesel said:
More likely is the SEC and B1G become the leagues. SEC is aligned with Disney/ABC/ESPN and B1G aligned with FOX. They'll keep their existing teams and absorb the rest as associate or affiliate members. Each side will run their own championships and the winner of the B1G and SEC will then play for a national championship. Rotate the championship game between FOX and Disney every other year.
64 teams. Each side takes 32 and has four divisions of 8.
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But there aren’t enough programs that make the money worth it to invite that many teams to join the P2. There are only a handful of teams now that would make sense.
 
Revrat said:
I know its not realistic. but since the Big10 and SEC are eventually going to try and take everything. Does it make sense for everyone else to break off first. ACC, Big 12 and Big East makes for damn fine basketball along with all the other mid major conferences that would easily dwarf what the BIG 2 can do and the football isnt all that horrendous either and would at a minimum take some of the legitamacy of the Big2. Just set up a separate football division and do their own bowl games etc. Pretend the Big2 doesnt exist.
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No. Same problem with a g5 tournament. You're legitimizing your own split.
 
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Rufus said:
But there aren’t enough programs that make the money worth it to invite that many teams to join the P2. There are only a handful of teams now that would make sense.
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The two conferences will control close to 100% of CFB money. They need some dregs on the bottom to keep the Auburns and the Iowas happy with 8-4 records.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
That’s the thing though. The SEC/B1G are already angling for 4 auto berths per year (8 out of 12). This scheduling alliance will not harm them against other conferences.
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It's this right here. They can do these big money games and earn even more cash because after this season they'll change the CFP so that each conference gets 2-3 autobids each
 
SEC, Big Ten considering blockbuster scheduling agreement for college football's new frontier
Matt Hayes
USA TODAY NETWORK

The SEC and Big Ten are discussing a potential scheduling agreement that could lead to a significant increase in media rights revenue, further distancing the two super conferences from the rest of college football, four people with knowledge of the discussions told USA TODAY.

The people who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the conversations say the two super conferences could face off in as many as 12 to 16 regular-season nonconference games a year – or more – to determine the extent of the increase in media rights revenue.

The potential scheduling agreement is an answer to billions in lost revenue from the House legal case settlement of more than $2 billion to former players, and future revenue sharing with players of at least $20 million to $23 million annually beginning as soon as the 2025 season.

It’s also being done within an environment that clearly favors the two super conferences. Both have pulled away financially from the rest of the FBS conferences and would move further away with a nonconference scheduling agreement.

But the last thing the Big Ten and SEC want is the optics of collusion. It’s no coincidence that both brought legal teams to last week’s meetings to steer clear of those potential problems.

www.usatoday.com

SEC, Big Ten considering blockbuster scheduling agreement for college football's new frontier

The SEC and Big Ten are considering a blockbuster scheduling agreement that would create marquee games and align conferences for new TV revenue deals.
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com
 
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