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HuskyHawk said:
Best Uniforms in college football. Also currently #6.

I'd be bummed with football in the Pac if it was bigger than it is, but it seems we'd have some room on the schedule for other games.
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Which also means if the Pac wants to expand further, we'd most likely be against it because we'd be asked to trade a couple of OOC regional opponents for additional middling west coast ones. I think what we'd want out of this scenario - a seven-game conference football slate that we can supplement with not-too-distant opponents - is contingent on the conference standing pat after we join, and that's a lot to ask.
 
UConn is not going to be the 8th member. They need 8 football + all sports members to count for the FB autobid. Gonzaga/UConn (or Hawaii, etc) doesn’t get it done.

UConn would be #9 if something happened giving them an 8 game conference slate and guaranteeing all members 4 home football games a year (vs 3 then 4 in alternating years).
 
ninety-nine said:
Which also means if the Pac wants to expand further, we'd most likely be against it because we'd be asked to trade a couple of OOC regional opponents for additional middling west coast ones. I think what we'd want out of this scenario - a seven-game conference football slate that we can supplement with not-too-distant opponents - is contingent on the conference standing pat after we join, and that's a lot to ask.
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I think the most we will be asked to play is 9 conference games like many other conferences now. At worst, it will be 5 away games plus 4 home games during every other year. I think that's worth it just for football. It will be a few extra hours of flying each day, but once you are on the plane you are on the plane.
 
I don't see the Pac-12 wanting us for football only. Would be like a Distributor getting Coca-Cola and only being allowed to sell Powerade.
 
Kembafan said:
I think it's definitely better than being independent. Scheduling would be easier, you have a conference championship to play for and a CFP autobid. Even without the money it's better than what we've got.
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UConnDan97 said:
I think the CFP is questionable because I've heard different things about when it was due to expire, but I certainly agree with everything else you said...
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ScottVib said:
UConn is not going to be the 8th member. They need 8 football + all sports members to count for the FB autobid. Gonzaga/UConn (or Hawaii, etc) doesn’t get it done.

UConn would be #9 if something happened giving them an 8 game conference slate and guaranteeing all members 4 home football games a year (vs 3 then 4 in alternating years).
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They aren't guaranteed to get the autobid back no matter what. They might not. Had they poached the AAC and MWC more successfully it was more likely. Now they just need an 8th team to be an FBS conference at all.

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Will the Pac-12 survive and rejoin the Power Five?

When the Pac-12 became the Pac-2, the Power Five became the Power Four. Will that change?
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Moving to Pac 12 makes me nervous. If the money makes sense yes otherwise suck it up and keep winning independently.
 
huskymedic said:
It’s always about the money:
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Well that's interesting, because one thought I had was that they could add ND State. On the field they'd be competitive.
 
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MilliniumPrince said:
Several of those future dates will probably be canceled within the next year.
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With all of the conference realignment going on right now, scheduling should not be a problem in the next few years. Heck, Washington St. and Oregon St. need games for next year. That said, I think UConn needs to play in a conference with access to the CFP money and with bowl tie ins. I'm not excited by the Pac 12 and I would prefer a scheduling arrangement and I don't want to mess up the possibility of joining the ACC or Big 12 so I definitely don't want to sign up for 5 years in the Pac 12.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
I think the most we will be asked to play is 9 conference games like many other conferences now. At worst, it will be 5 away games plus 4 home games during every other year. I think that's worth it just for football. It will be a few extra hours of flying each day, but once you are on the plane you are on the plane.
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I'm not thinking about it in terms of travel distance for road games. I'm thinking about it in terms of wanting to schedule opponents who interest our fan base more, especially for home games. Being able to arrange home-and-homes with Syracuse, BC, Pitt, Duke, etc. has the potential to attract butts to seats that don't get filled for Florida Atlantic and Rice, and won't get filled for UNLV and Utah State. But I suppose a 9-game limit would leave enough room for a home cupcake (probably UMass every other year), and one or two home games with power conference schools.
 
ninety-nine said:
I'm not thinking about it in terms of travel distance for road games. I'm thinking about it in terms of wanting to schedule opponents who interest our fan base more, especially for home games. Being able to arrange home-and-homes with Syracuse, BC, Pitt, Duke, etc. has the potential to attract butts to seats that don't get filled for Florida Atlantic and Rice, and won't get filled for UNLV and Utah State. But I suppose a 9-game limit would leave enough room for a home cupcake (probably UMass every other year), and one or two home games with power conference schools.
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Ultimately, not sure this works for all parties…. My mindset is let the process work. If something materializes that could help UConn fine. Doesn’t seem like something worth pursuing heavily.
 
I’m a little torn as far as schedule goes. I think the PAC would offer a tough schedule that is better than the AAC and more interesting too. I’m just not sure how fans will feel about it. I’m a football fan, so I can identify it as a good conference with strong programs. I’m not sure if casual fans would or not. The nice thing is when you say Washington St, Oregon St , Utah St etc., it sounds a lot more big time than East Carolina or Tulane to a non-fan.
 
I don’t understand why the P4 would care. I’d assume they’d just force the G5 leagues to dilute their playoff distribution by the number of newly elevated programs.
 
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ScottVib said:
UConn is not going to be the 8th member. They need 8 football + all sports members to count for the FB autobid. Gonzaga/UConn (or Hawaii, etc) doesn’t get it done.

UConn would be #9 if something happened giving them an 8 game conference slate and guaranteeing all members 4 home football games a year (vs 3 then 4 in alternating years).
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I don’t think that is right. I think 8 members in all sports except football to be a conference then 8 football teams to get the G5 bid.
 
Kembafan said:
I can’t understand why they didn’t simply merge the two conferences by dissolving the MWC and then invite all of them to join the pac. There were 4 schools they didn’t want I guess. So make a deal with those. I dunno it seems like this should’ve been easier.
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MWC commish/schools wanted a gigantic slice of the PAC buyout money (from B1G and B12 defectors) to work with Oregon St and Wazzu. Oregon St and Wazzu then thought might as well just buy the top of the MWC, make a play at the AAC, and let the MWC fall apart and pick up the pieces if needed. MWC commish doesn't want to lose her job and the bottom part of the MWC doesn't want to be left behind so they fight to keep the conference alive. Ultimately it ends with both conferences and all the schools being compromised (except maybe Air Force and UNLV with this huge retention bonus).

At this point I think it probably makes more sense for the majority of the schools to wipe the slate clean, agree to a reasonable reverse merger (some PAC buyout money is distributed and Oregon St and Wazzu keep a fair share), and everybody sucks it up. Though it looks like that won't happen, which is seemingly great news for UConn football!
 
So, if they bring in Gonzaga as a full, as full as can be anyway, and bring in UConn as a football only, would that constitute a full member for the PAC.
 
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Kembafan said:
I can’t understand why they didn’t simply merge the two conferences by dissolving the MWC and then invite all of them to join the pac. There were 4 schools they didn’t want I guess. So make a deal with those. I dunno it seems like this should’ve been easier.
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Everyone in the Pac-12 found a new home except OSU and Wazzou. Goes to show how expensive it is to keep the bottom dwellers of a conference and how little value those bottom dwellers have when a conference is dissected piece by piece.
 
JMick said:
I'd have to imagine this is good for us. It leaves them more desperate for a "brand" and they probably only want to add one more full member if they can get Gonzaga for basketball and us for football.
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They have to add one more full sports member first. Let's hope that Texas State says no, and UTEP says yes. IMO, that is best case scenario.
 
JMick said:
I'd have to imagine this is good for us. It leaves them more desperate for a "brand" and they probably only want to add one more full member if they can get Gonzaga for basketball and us for football.
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“Want” to only add one more member or “can’t”?

PAC needs one more full member and MWC needs two. Where are all these programs gonna come from? Western block of Sun Belt I guess? Are they gonna wanna leave to join the giant cluster that these two leagues have created?

Move up a bunch of FCS schools?

What a mess.
 
Chonky said:
“Want” to only add one more member or “can’t”?

PAC needs one more full member and MWC needs two. Where are all these programs gonna come from? Western block of Sun Belt I guess? Are they gonna wanna leave to join the giant cluster that these two leagues have created?

Move up a bunch of FCS schools?

What a mess.
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The Pac-12 will not add an FCS program. They will target Texas State and then likely UTEP.
 
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