Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[ZooCougar]

It could be negotiated. But even if it's half that (and the recent Texas negotiation with the B12 tells us that the fee will be much more than half) it still is so exorbitant that you won't make up the difference in the B12 versus current ACC contract over the next 10 yrs.

In other words, there's no financial incentive for FSU's move to the B12. They may want to do it anyway, but we're discussing $$$

There is no financial incentive that you are aware of.

I have all this bookmarked. When and if this happens you will become my special project.

 

[ZooCougar]

Are you drinking early in the day?

The exit fees are spelled out. The lawsuit is over GOR.

Both conferences are worth more with the most better schools. Right now the ACC has them and the B12 doesn't.

Deal with it.

Also, BYU sucks... at everything.

Everything is negotiated. Not everyone has the business acumen of an academic.

 

[upstater]

Everything is negotiated. Not everyone has the business acumen of an academic.

So Texas decided to pay $$$$$ because they had bad academic business acumen.

What's your business? Delusion?

What did UConn pay?

The conference attitude in these situations is always the same. To quote a famous businessman, "not a dime less."

 

[upstater]

There is no financial incentive that you are aware of.

I have all this bookmarked. When and if this happens you will become my special project.

delusional.

 

[Patman]

I didn’t agree with the post but he said nothing about hoops

my apologies, I read that as talking about the recent basketball titles

 

[ZooCougar]

So Texas decided to pay $$$$$ because they had bad academic business acumen.

What's your business? Delusion?

What did UConn pay?

The conference attitude in these situations is always the same. To quote a famous businessman, "not a dime less."

Of course the SEC is more lucrative than the old Big 12.

Obviously the Big 12 has something up their sleeve with FOX or FSU and Clemson are using it to call the B1G and the SEC’s bluff.

Either way I am not talking in circles. We will revisit this and I am ready to laugh at you either way.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Ok. Private equity and college football coach makes no sense.

College Football coaches and private equity are the most indignant people on earth.

College football coaches act like the world resolves around their practice and recruiting schedule, while private equity thinks they are the reason everything exists.

Those, together, is toxic. Imagine a PE telling a football coach his offense is boring and to make it more fun so we can market it?

Lol.

 

[king conn]

Imagine a PE telling a football coach his offense is boring and to make it more fun so we can market it?

Lol.

It certainly could have helped us the past decade

 

[jostar1]

 

[upstater]

Of course the SEC is more lucrative than the old Big 12.

Obviously the Big 12 has something up their sleeve with FOX or FSU and Clemson are using it to call the B1G and the SEC’s bluff.

Either way I am not talking in circles. We will revisit this and I am ready to laugh at you either way.

Youve been hanging out with the Dude of WV too much

 

[CL82]

It certainly could have helped us the past decade

Well, it wouldn't of hurt anyway.

 

[huskymedic]

LOL..

 

[ninety-nine]

LOL..

Are these key tweets or April Fools' leftovers?

 

[CL82]

ACC commissioner reacts to rumors of Syracuse, Boston College, SMU and Wake Forest departing for the big 12

 

[The Yakk]

Do the math. It's not going to work when you have payouts to the ACC. No matter the higher payout in the B12. And the B12 would encumber them on the backend.

Especially now that the B12 has a zillion members in it.

Why would Colorado or Arizona or Utah agree to their buy-in while Clemson is given heaps of money more? And Clemson isn't going to sign a GOR or have huge exit fees?

None of that makes any sense.

Very true.

What makes even less sense is this fantasy that a private equity deal will make these schools the "richest in college football."

 

[CL82]

Very true.

What makes even less sense is this fantasy that a private equity deal will make these schools the "richest in college football."

Well, I guess it does in the same way that pulling all the equity out of your home via a home equity loan makes you "richer".

(For what it's worth, the big 12s current flirtation with private equity makes it a less attractive option for expansion, in my opinion.)

 

[upstater]

Well, I guess it does in the same way that pulling all the equity out of your home via a home equity loan makes you "richer".

(For what it's worth, the big 12s current flirtation with private equity makes it a less attractive option for expansion, in my opinion.)

So many gov'ts that got involved in these "investment" deals ended up crying to the IMF later. Goldman Sachs used to give new ministers a lot of sugar up front, and the balloon payment came do years later when the next minister took office.

 

[Kolumbo]

Well, I guess it does in the same way that pulling all the equity out of your home via a home equity loan makes you "richer".

(For what it's worth, the big 12s current flirtation with private equity makes it a less attractive option for expansion, in my opinion.)

Some people get rich by pulling all of the equity out of their homes in order to start new businesses. If they are successful entrepreneurs, then yes, it does in fact make them richer. The risk-reward tradeoff.

 

[billybud]

Texas and Oklahoma only ended up paying $50 million a piece as a negotiated exit fee from the Big 12...but Texas didn't pay all of that..

ESPN breaks out the checkbook for Texas - ESPN makes Texas whole for leaving the Big 12 early by making a transition payment to Texas (that shall pass through the SEC) which is above and beyond what ESPN was scheduled to pay the SEC.​

Notable provisions in the agreement: ESPN will make a transition payment to Texas (that shall pass through the SEC) which is above and beyond what ESPN was scheduled to pay the SEC. That payment should be made sometime between July 2024 and July 2025.Mar 20, 2024

 

[upstater]

Texas and Oklahoma only ended up paying $50 million a piece as a negotiated exit fee from the Big 12...but Texas didn't pay all of that..

ESPN breaks out the checkbook for Texas - ESPN makes Texas whole for leaving the Big 12 early by making a transition payment to Texas (that shall pass through the SEC) which is above and beyond what ESPN was scheduled to pay the SEC.​

Notable provisions in the agreement: ESPN will make a transition payment to Texas (that shall pass through the SEC) which is above and beyond what ESPN was scheduled to pay the SEC. That payment should be made sometime between July 2024 and July 2025.Mar 20, 2024

But that has nothing to do with the Exit Fee.

It's a fee for Texas being in the SEC.

It's not making them whole at all. It's their 2024-2025 media rights fee.

 

[CL82]

Some people get rich by pulling all of the equity out of their homes in order to start new businesses. If they are successful entrepreneurs, then yes, it does in fact make them richer. The risk-reward tradeoff.

True, but the big 12 isn't proposing to invest PE funds. Instead they are proposing to use PE funds to supplement their current earnings so that they are more competitive with the P2. That isn't an investment strategy, that's a death spiral.

 

[Kolumbo]

True, but the big 12 isn't proposing to invest PE funds. Instead they are proposing to use PE funds to supplement their current earnings so that they are more competitive with the P2. That isn't an investment strategy, that's a death spiral.

Perhaps but I don't see how it's a death spiral. The critical component today is survival and you just typed it, make them more competitive. It could help solidify the Big 12's position as clearly the 3rd best conference, which could help its programs become more successful, which would make them more valuable. That's a solid long term investment if it plays out that way. The bigger the gap between the Big 12 and the ACC, the bigger the win.

 

[Hoophound]

Perhaps but I don't see how it's a death spiral. The critical component today is survival and you just typed it, make them more competitive. It could help solidify the Big 12's position as clearly the 3rd best conference, which could help its programs become more successful, which would make them more valuable. That's a solid long term investment if it plays out that way. The bigger the gap between the Big 12 and the ACC, the bigger the win.

How does the investor make money in these scenarios? It’s not like you can sell the company once it increases in value.

 

[Kolumbo]

How does the investor make money in these scenarios? It’s not like you can sell the company once it increases in value.

Cash flow

 

[billybud]

But that has nothing to do with the Exit Fee.

It's a fee for Texas being in the SEC.

It's not making them whole at all. It's their 2024-2025 media rights fee.

Not my words...Farley's reporting.