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I asked this before without a response. What power does the BC president have that the other presidents don’t? Is the executive role THAT decisive?
Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.
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At this point I would like to think he has one vote.
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There is some truth to this. GDF was a very insecure guy and in way over his head from a business standpoint. He viewed UCONN as a threat rather than an opportunity to drive regional interest and support for college athletics in New England and maybe even the northeast more broadly. I'm sure the ACC checks have been nice, but this next reound of restucturing could be a real s*** show for BC.
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It's a 30 minute difference six times a year. And that is assuming you're west of Hartford. It's less if you're east of Hartford.
Making massive infrastructure improvements for six games a year, most on a Saturday, in my opinion, would be the waste of money.
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The way to do that is to get students used to attending games on a regular basis. Having them bussed 30 minutes away doesn't do that. Having an on campus stadium where they could go to every game for four years does. It makes it part of the campus experience rather than an inconvenient activity a half hour away.
According to this story, ACC expansion needs a three-fourths majority approval. Notre Dame gets one vote.
ACC expansion on life support with presidents delaying vote; what are the arguments for and against?
League administrators have spent the last several days seriously examining the possibility of adding Pac-12 schools Stanford and Cal, as well as SMU of the AAC.
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I think that's exactly right, they have a vote. That single vote mattered in the past when I think the conference really didn't have a strong preference over us and Pittsburgh, so BC's statement that "they wanted to be the New England school" was enough for other conference members to go "whatever" and accept Pitt. Now, had ESPN said, "no, we will only pay for Connecticut as an addition", we would've been in.
Likewise, when FSU flexed its muscles against tobacco road and indicated it wanted "a football school" instead of the addition of what it perceived to be another "basketball school", BC's "single vote" allowed FSU to build a majority and overrule tobacco road. Again, though, all it would've taken is ESPN saying, no, Connecticut is our home state and we want to maintain a good relationship with its residents, legislature, and governor. We will only pay for Connecticut in this round of expansion. That did not happen, obviously.
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My understanding is that the chair of the presidents group of a conference does not really have any additional power. I was sort of an observer at a presidents meeting for a Division II conference. The chair of the group organizes and runs the meeting, and the liaison to the commissioner. During the meeting, the chair can order an executive session where everyone (including the commissioner) are booted from the room.
I’m sure there are differences with the ACC presidents group. But I can’t see any of the presidents ceding their power to any one president. And I don’t believe the chair has any more influence over realignment or other decisions by simply being the chair.
LOL at the idea that BCU will have any say in where the ACC expands. Some BCU suit on a rubber-stamp committee doesn't mean squat.
The real authority in the ACC resides in the broadcasters and the top schools--the ones whose ratings actually bring the revenue. BCU is very far from that.
Well, BC did block us in 2011. And this story also confirms ESPN's role, as CL82 said.
An article in The Boston Globe on Sunday became the talk of college athletics, as it reported just how brazen and blatant Boston College’s blocking of Connecticut’s move to the Atlantic Coast Conference was.
“We didn’t want them in,” Boston College’s athletic director, Gene DeFilippo, told The Globe. “It was a matter of turf. We wanted to be the New England team.”
The most stunning comment in the article was DeFilippo’s public admission that ESPN guided the A.C.C.’s decision to add Syracuse and Pittsburgh last month. “We always keep our television partners close to us,” DeFilippo told The Globe. “You don’t get extra money for basketball. It’s 85 percent football money. TV — ESPN — is the one who told us what to do. This was football; it had nothing to do with basketball.”
DeFilippo’s comments give credence to the popular theory that ESPN encouraged Pittsburgh and Syracuse’s exit from the Big East in the wake of the Big East’s turning down ESPN’s billion dollar television deal in May during an exclusive negotiating window. ESPN has a billion dollar deal with the A.C.C., making that move either savvy business or collusion, depending on one’s perspective.
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I think BC used to be the poor man’s Notre Dame in MA. It was the local football program that got national attention, especially when Flutie played. Casual college football fans would cheer for BC.
Especially the Catholic faithful.
That was a long time ago, and BC’s irrelevance have squashed that.
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There is truth to that, but I think the bigger issue for BC is that they went from a local/regional college to a national college. When they changed the demographics of the school, they lost many fans as the school lost many of their local connections. I know some BC grads that are still upset that their kid was not accepted at BC. And, since the demographics changed, BC grads don't tend to stay as much in the Boston area anymore after graduation.
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They?
Predictions from Athlon. It sounds like Memphis and USF are just about a sure thing next round.
https://athlonsports.com/college-fo...ege-football-conference-realignment-expansion
The MAC Becomes a 14-Team League
UMass will join the MAC next year (2025) to bring the MAC membership to 13 teams. Even if the conference prefers all-sports members, the MAC eventually grows by one with a football-only deal with UConn.
And if UConn isn't the right fit, perhaps a FCS team (maybe Illinois State?) fits as the No. 14 member.
Translation ... if UConn football isn't worthy / good enough for the MAC they would look for more viable FCS options.
https://athlonsports.com/college-fo...ege-football-conference-realignment-expansion
The MAC Becomes a 14-Team League
UMass will join the MAC next year (2025) to bring the MAC membership to 13 teams. Even if the conference prefers all-sports members, the MAC eventually grows by one with a football-only deal with UConn.
And if UConn isn't the right fit, perhaps a FCS team (maybe Illinois State?) fits as the No. 14 member.
Translation ... if UConn football isn't worthy / good enough for the MAC they would look for more viable FCS options.
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Lol in the same article the guy also links us to interest from the big 12 and the ACC. I think you're reaching a bit on your interpretation here.
wtf?
ACC-"Two wild-card scenarios: UConn joins as a football-only member. And the ACC also considers Army and Navy for expansion."
He's even throwing UTSA to the ACC before UConn
I don't think UConn will go to the MAC for football. The MAC gave UMass an ultimatum a few years back when they were football-only............either join the MAC for all sports, or leave all together. UMass left and went independent in football. Just recently, UMass decided to join for all sports.
The MAC would have to change its stance for this to even be a remote possibility.
The MAC would have to change its stance for this to even be a remote possibility.
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Is this really a key tweet?
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UConn is different than UMass, though. UConn is one of, if not the top basketball brands in the game. While UConn football isn’t quite at the level of its basketball programs, they are still a nationally recognized school. UMass isn’t as widely known. The Big10 wouldn’t take affiliate teams until John’s Hopkins lacrosse and Notre Dame Hockey. Why couldn’t the MAC, who could stand to use some brand recognition and allow UConn a spot. Gives Buffalo and UMass a partner school. Maybe if UConn were to throw in a couple of out of conference games the MAC’s way, it would really help the brand.
The big question is will UConn want to play a MAC schedule to get where they want to go?
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The quick answer is no we will not want to play on the MAC. If we are to join another conference, it will either be the B12 or a version of the ACC.