Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[ZooCougar]

Utah did not want to go to the B12 . The last place they want to be is in a conference with is BYU . At the time they had a gun to their heads
If they knew then that the ACC was an option. The ACC could have gotten them plus the Arizona schools. Even U of A would have bought in .
I really don’t think it’s grasped back East in what disrespect the PAC schools had for many of the B12 schools. . The ACC from a peer prospective is a much better fit for these largely AAU schools. The Big 12 would be on shaky ground if they did that .

PAC 12 schools don’t want to be in a cornpone truck stop conference. They used to play in LA, now they play in Manhattan.

 

[noeynox]

But our guys are great at monitoring!!!

Who can ever forget Herbst's bold proclamation off "putting kids on a bus to Ames, Iowa not what is best for student athletes", to them sending them to Tulsa, Oklahoma.

 

[Vowelguy]

Why would the B1G want a school in a state with less people than CT?

I doubt the B1G wants UT, but if UT has any appeal it's because it is a rapidly growing state. It will have more people than CT within 5 years.

The BiG focus is on digesting the PAC entrants and the ACC possibilities.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

PAC 12 schools don’t want to be in a cornpone truck stop conference. They used to play in LA, now they play in Manhattan.

That may be the best post you have made in 20+ years of posting on the Boneyard. I can't stop laughing.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Bargaining stage?

 

[LetsGoUC]

Why would ACC go after Utah? Feel like if they are trying to poach a Big 12 school, they are better off going after Arizona or Kansas.

 

[Forte]

Why would ACC go after Utah? Feel like if they are trying to poach a Big 12 school, they are better off going after Arizona or Kansas.

More importantly, why would Utah, if true, risk stability for a conference that may lose 4 of its top programs?

 

[Hoophound]

The theory is that it balances them out a little with 4 schools out west and it strengthens their football product quite a bit. Both are true. Utah also has a pretty good basketball program. At the same time, the move would further weaken the B12 as a football conference and competitor. .

 

[UConn Dan]

Bargaining stage?

That's the nonkeyest tweet I've seen in here. Utah to the ACC is bogus.

This is more key:

 

[Sea Goat]

Can't imagine going near the ACC until you see how the conference shakes out regarding potential departures. I can't imagine a worse position for a new member than losing the top FB schools and being committed to subsidizing some of the remaining duds (you know who they are...) in the conference to boot!

 

[Rufus]

I would have said Utah to the ACC was absolutely ridiculous. Then this afternoon, Utah athletics came out with their "Proud members of the Big 12" nonsense. They are good as gone!

 

[uconnyankee]

Why would ACC go after Utah? Feel like if they are trying to poach a Big 12 school, they are better off going after Arizona or Kansas.

Utes never wanted to be in same conference as BYU

 

[Chuck]

The Big 12's biggest strength is the individual weakness of its teams. None of them really believe that they should be in the Big Ten or SEC. That means prospective members can reasonably expect the Big 12 to look similar in the near future. The ACC is the Old Big East. It wouldn't seem wise to choose the ACC over the other 3 Ps. Like a newspaper having an obituary ready for an old celebrity, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a draft of "Requiem for the ACC" ready to go.

 

[UConnJim]

Utes never wanted to be in same conference as BYU

Utah and BYU were in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference together from 1918 to 1937, the Skyline Conference together from 1937 to 1962, the WAC together from 1962 to 1999 and in the MWC together from 1999 to 2011.

 

[uconnyankee]

That doesn’t mean they want to be in Big 12 together

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Brett McMurphy on Florida State, Clemson in ACC ‘They’re going to leave’

Action Network’s Brett McMurphy is assured Florida State and Clemson will leave the ACC. It’s not a matter of if, but when these ...

www.on3.com

 

[freescooter]

So, the Big 10 is going to take Utah when they could get Stanford, Cal, UNC, Virginia, ... Not happening. And, Stanford and Cal are getting half shares in the ACC and SMU is getting zero media share, but Utah would get a full share? Or, take a half share from the ACC and reduce their conference payout by $15 million vs the Big 12. Not happening.

They are taking Utah because Vermont doesn’t play football. I doubt Utah goes to the Big 10. I guess they could go to tha ACC to shore up the non-Atlantic Coast component

 

[Drew]

I just thought this was interesting and wasn’t sure where to park it:

 

[Drew]

 

[freescooter]

I just thought this was interesting and wasn’t sure where to park it:

Oh I don’t know this is such a big deal. I’ve seen similar language in many contracts including reference to federal and state government agencies. I haven’t read any coaches contracts but I wouldn’t be shocked to see similar language in them.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[FfldCntyFan]

On point 2:

Without having read the agreement I can state it isn't necessary for the ACC to retain Clemson's rights to fulfill the deal.

The difficult part would be in providing a product that both parties (ESPN, ACC) would agree to as being substantially equivalent to the product that included Clemson.

 

[CL82]

Not open to "new" expansion members, but maybe open to expansion with universities he's already been in contact with???

 

[BlueHen]

He's not searching for new expansion members, maybe because he has already found them?

 

[LoyalFanCT]

this is a clear indication that all of this speculation that four or so ACC members will land in B12 soon is doubtful. Maybe they would take Louisville.