Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Chin Diesel]

This is a bad deal for women's basketball. Basically, ESPN is paying less for the women's tournament media rights per year than what 1 member of the Big 10 or SEC are paid per year.

A bad deal is better than no deal. The Pac-12 found that out the hard way when they listened to some egg head anaylyst who thought the conference should get more money than ESPN was offering.

 

[huskymedic]

“Making the situation especially painful is the unique arrangement that SMU made with the ACC. Heavily motivated to be in the Power Five and backed by a plethora of mega-boosters, SMU agreed to accept no television revenue from the ACC in its first nine years in the conference. That said, school officials expected to receive non-television ACC payouts that total at least $10-12 million annually — roughly half of which, it thought, would come from the CFP.

Without the CFP, SMU’s first nine years in the ACC may generate annually roughly half of what it earned in distribution while in the American Athletic Conference (about $9 million).”

 

[huskymedic]

Assisted access if needed <<

 

[CL82]

A bad deal is better than no deal. The Pac-12 found that out the hard way when they listened to some egg head anaylyst who thought the conference should get more money than ESPN was offering.

The big east found out the same thing.

 

[CL82]

“Making the situation especially painful is the unique arrangement that SMU made with the ACC. Heavily motivated to be in the Power Five and backed by a plethora of mega-boosters, SMU agreed to accept no television revenue from the ACC in its first nine years in the conference. That said, school officials expected to receive non-television ACC payouts that total at least $10-12 million annually — roughly half of which, it thought, would come from the CFP.

Without the CFP, SMU’s first nine years in the ACC may generate annually roughly half of what it earned in distribution while in the American Athletic Conference (about $9 million).”

 

[CL82]

“Making the situation especially painful is the unique arrangement that SMU made with the ACC. Heavily motivated to be in the Power Five and backed by a plethora of mega-boosters, SMU agreed to accept no television revenue from the ACC in its first nine years in the conference. That said, school officials expected to receive non-television ACC payouts that total at least $10-12 million annually — roughly half of which, it thought, would come from the CFP.

Without the CFP, SMU’s first nine years in the ACC may generate annually roughly half of what it earned in distribution while in the American Athletic Conference (about $9 million).”

It would be a fascinating and ironic twist if SMU ends up being the deciding vote to break up the ACC based upon the fact that they make less money there than in the American.

 

[Fishy]

If it wasn't for the fact that two schools just got kicked out of the major conference club, this would be a fantastic prediction.

They weren’t kicked out of a conference…their conference left without them.

You know, like what happened to UConn.

But back to your fever dreams and unicorn wishes.

 

[Fishy]

“Making the situation especially painful is the unique arrangement that SMU made with the ACC. Heavily motivated to be in the Power Five and backed by a plethora of mega-boosters, SMU agreed to accept no television revenue from the ACC in its first nine years in the conference. That said, school officials expected to receive non-television ACC payouts that total at least $10-12 million annually — roughly half of which, it thought, would come from the CFP.

Without the CFP, SMU’s first nine years in the ACC may generate annually roughly half of what it earned in distribution while in the American Athletic Conference (about $9 million).”

Welp, that’s another nail in our coffin.

Lovely.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

Agreed, I see the similarities:

"melodramatic plotlines including alien abduction, demonic possession, extramarital affairs, murder, kidnapping, unknown diseases, amnesia, cults, organized crime warfare, a communist revolution and teacher-student relationships. In 2007, it was listed as one of Time magazine's "100 Best TV Shows of All-TIME",[2] and in 2010, the Tates and the Campbells ranked at number 17 in TV Guide's list of "TV's Top Families".

Both fall into the category of "CAN'T MAKE THIS S__T UP!"

All you left off was Burt's invisibility.

 

[How Sway?!]

“Making the situation especially painful is the unique arrangement that SMU made with the ACC. Heavily motivated to be in the Power Five and backed by a plethora of mega-boosters, SMU agreed to accept no television revenue from the ACC in its first nine years in the conference. That said, school officials expected to receive non-television ACC payouts that total at least $10-12 million annually — roughly half of which, it thought, would come from the CFP.

Without the CFP, SMU’s first nine years in the ACC may generate annually roughly half of what it earned in distribution while in the American Athletic Conference (about $9 million).”

Makes sense considering the cfp won't get extra money until the new deal, so they'd have to take money away from someone before giving it to SMU

 

[AZHuskiePop]

If it wasn't for the fact that two schools just got kicked out of the major conference club, this would be a fantastic prediction.

No team has been kicked out of a major conference.
Two conferences have been destroyed with 4 teams being left without major conference homes
that’s not the same thing. But new teams have been added
Losers
OSU
WSU
UConn
USF
Winners ( not in BCS conferences prior to 2012)
Houston
UCF
TCU
BYU
SMU
So the total number has been pretty steady despite the loss of conferences.
If history is a guide if the ACC doesn’t survives 2-3 teams will be left behind but if your at the top of your game 2-3 teams will be added. My suggestion is have your ticket ready.
Temple is a bad example because the Old Big East had to drop them to make room for UConn because the basketball schools didn’t want to upset the balance of power. That’s the way The Old Big East was run and why it self destructed.

 

[Kolumbo]

No team has been kicked out of a major conference.
Two conferences have been destroyed with 4 teams being left without major conference homes
that’s not the same thing. But new teams have been added
Losers
OSU
WSU
UConn
USF
Winners ( not in BCS conferences prior to 2012)
Houston
UCF
TCU
BYU
SMU
So the total number has been pretty steady despite the loss of conferences.
If history is a guide if the ACC doesn’t survives 2-3 teams will be left behind but if your at the top of your game 2-3 teams will be added. My suggestion is have your ticket ready.
Temple is a bad example because the Old Big East had to drop them to make room for UConn because the basketball schools didn’t want to upset the balance of power. That’s the way The Old Big East was run and why it self destructed.

It's all semantics and the end result is the same. And I get that the Big 12 had to add the AAC programs to survive and enable it to be in a position to grab the 4 corner schools. But if the timeline were different, Cinci would be a loser and Houston and UCF would still be on the outside too. And the ACC could very likely leave behind some more waste. The Big 12 would prefer to not have wasted slots on the AAC programs in favor of the ACC programs.

 

[Waquoit]

No team has been kicked out of a major conference.
Two conferences have been destroyed with 4 teams being left without major conference homes
that’s not the same thing. But new teams have been added
Losers
OSU
WSU
UConn
USF

Yeah, but you know what?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Welp, that’s another nail in our coffin.

Lovely.

You are constantly doom and gloom on the athletic program. Are you in favor of shutting the football program down?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

They weren’t kicked out of a conference…their conference left without them.

You know, like what happened to UConn.

But back to your fever dreams and unicorn wishes.

Unicorn wishes? You are the one that thinks a P2 revenue model predicated on the cable bundle will rebound and last forever.

This is like debating with someone who thinks beepers are making a comeback.

 

[AllHusky]

Unicorn wishes? You are the one that thinks a P2 revenue model predicated on the cable bundle will rebound and last forever.

This is like debating with someone who thinks beepers are making a comeback.

Saving mine in my nightstand with my flip phone

 

[Ha Who]

Unicorn wishes? You are the one that thinks a P2 revenue model predicated on the cable bundle will rebound and last forever.

This is like debating with someone who thinks beepers are making a comeback.

I thought you might mention blackberries too

 

[Patman]

Anybody who thinks cable is dying a quick death is a fool. Especially given restaurants and bars need something easy to manage its tvs.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Inside the club and broke, is probably better than outside the club and broke.

 

[CL82]

Inside the club and broke, is probably better than outside the club and broke.

No doubt, but it doesn't prevent schadenfreude.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I thought you might mention blackberries too

Blackberries were awesome. I will never denigrate Blackberries, even as a joke.

 

[Stinger92860]

Kicking teams out is complicated. It's more than sports. Look at the B1G ---- they have the B1G Academic Alliance in which each school integrates many of its services/offerings/research with the other member schools. Also, each B1G school has partial ownership of the BTN. It's not as simple as "Well ok, you are kicked out of the B1G, now go away." I don't see any school getting kicked out. Plus, someone has to eat those football/basketball losses for the top brands.

I don‘t see anyone being kicked out. I see teams leaving en masse for a new football only league.

 

[TheCatsLair]

No team has been kicked out of a major conference.
Two conferences have been destroyed with 4 teams being left without major conference homes
that’s not the same thing. But new teams have been added
Losers
OSU
WSU
UConn
USF
Winners ( not in BCS conferences prior to 2012)
Houston
UCF
TCU
BYU
SMU
So the total number has been pretty steady despite the loss of conferences.
If history is a guide if the ACC doesn’t survives 2-3 teams will be left behind but if your at the top of your game 2-3 teams will be added. My suggestion is have your ticket ready.
Temple is a bad example because the Old Big East had to drop them to make room for UConn because the basketball schools didn’t want to upset the balance of power. That’s the way The Old Big East was run and why it self destructed.

Technically TCU was in a BCS conference, they were invited to the Big East prior to Pitt and Syracuse leaving. They may not have officially started play in the conference at that point, but if the Big 12 had not invited them then they would be on the Losers list.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Anybody who thinks cable is dying a quick death is a fool. Especially given restaurants and bars need something easy to manage its tvs.

The cable providers themselves STRONGLY disagree with you. Charter's CEO is on the record as saying he makes no money from selling television.

MSN

What you will see more of is bundling streaming and cable services together, but the cost of that has to come from somewhere, and ESPN is a big, fat target.

 

[How Sway?!]

College Football Playoff, ESPN discuss 8-year rights contract

 

[bobbyinaz]

College Football Playoff, ESPN discuss 8-year rights contract

ESPN should start buying out all the long term deals they are in so they can come up with this $1.3 billion

 

[Rufus]

ESPN should start buying out all the long term deals they are in so they can come up with this $1.3 billion

I think it should go to open market where it could rake in $1.5-$2 billion. Why settle for an opening offer from ESPN?

 

[JMick]

What you will see more of is bundling streaming and cable services together, but the cost of that has to come from somewhere, and ESPN is a big, fat target.

Disney is already talking about going back to licensing their content because Disney+ and ESPN+ are failures. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

 

[How Sway?!]

ESPN should start buying out all the long term deals they are in so they can come up with this $1.3 billion

They've been saving money for this exact reason. No PAC 12, no B1G, no MLS, secondary B12.

 

[CL82]

I think it should go to open market where it could rake in $1.5-$2 billion. Why settle for an opening offer from ESPN?

Why settle for an opening offer from ESPN?

...said George Kliavkoff, probably.

"I mean what's the worst thing that could happen if we say no?"​