Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Waquoit]

No.

That advances the conversation.

 

[shizzle787]

6 schools to bring in ahead of UConn
Memphis
USF
Tulane
JMU
Liberty
ECU

LOL. The ACC is never bringing in Liberty. The Sun Belt doesn't even want them. Wake and Duke will never accept ECU. VaTech will never accept JMU. If Miami is left behind, they will never accept USF. Memphis keeps getting left behind for a reason, and Tulane has been good at football for all of two minutes. We are fine.

 

[shizzle787]

Why would ESPN pay FSU three times as much in the SEC when they are paying them about a third in the ACC?

Because if they don't, NBC/FOX/CBS will if they are in the B1G.

 

[UConnJim]

Why would ESPN pay FSU three times as much in the SEC when they are paying them about a third in the ACC?

A couple of reasons. First, better matchups = better ratings as getting the most marketable programs into the same conference will increase ratings. FSU games in the SEC will have better ratings than in the ACC. Next, we know how ESPN works. Say they move 4 ACC schools to their other property, the SEC. Pay them 3x more, get better ratings, don't renew the ACC contract after 2027, and save money as now they are paying 4 teams less than the 18 programs in the ACC.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

6 schools to bring in ahead of UConn
Memphis
USF
Tulane
JMU
Liberty
ECU

I can see Tulane and USF being asked to join. But UConn comes in as a likely candidate too. Remember Stanford and Cal are in the mix now. Academic quality is going to play a role given these schools. UConn is not at the same academic level as Cal but it is impressive. And if Duke and Syracuse remain, and even maybe UVA, basketball quality is going to count, too. And we are a blue blood.

 

[GG]

A couple of reasons. First, better matchups = better ratings as getting the most marketable programs into the same conference will increase ratings. FSU games in the SEC will have better ratings than in the ACC. Next, we know how ESPN works. Say they move 4 ACC schools to their other property, the SEC. Pay them 3x more, get better ratings, don't renew the ACC contract after 2027, and save money as now they are paying 4 teams less than the 18 programs in the ACC.

FSU is likely BIG bound and not SEC.

 

[UConnJim]

FSU is likely BIG bound and not SEC.

In my opinion, the SEC will not allow the Big 10 into Florida, but we'll see. And, FSU would choose the SEC over Big 10.

 

[Ha Who]

In my opinion, the SEC will not allow the Big 10 into Florida, but we'll see. And, FSU would choose the SEC over Big 10.

Imagine when they play Bama, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee…… every week. They will be crying we can’t compete. What happened to Wake and Cuse?

 

[noeynox]

LOL. The ACC is never bringing in Liberty. The Sun Belt doesn't even want them. Wake and Duke will never accept ECU. VaTech will never accept JMU. If Miami is left behind, they will never accept USF. Memphis keeps getting left behind for a reason, and Tulane has been good at football for all of two minutes. We are fine.

We just saw SMU and CalFord get in over the objections of FSU and others. How could you be so sure of any of that? That seems to have only worked for BC to keep UConn out.

 

[shizzle787]

We just saw SMU and CalFord get in over the objections of FSU and others. How could you be so sure of any of that? That seems to have only worked for BC to keep UConn out.

Because the other 12 schools outvoted them and there was some serious pressure nationally to find CalFord a P4 home.

 

[noeynox]

Because the other 12 schools outvoted them and there was some serious pressure nationally to find CalFord a P4 home.

Or in other words, the objections of 1 or even a few members wasn't enough to keep teams out the others wanted. Lol at national pressure.

 

[dayooper]

Or in other words, the objections of 1 or even a few members wasn't enough to keep teams out the others wanted. Lol at national pressure.

Eh, I think the ACC knew they were potentially going to lose up to 3 schools and their contract with ESPN states that they are required to have 15 schools. Even if they lose 4 or 5 schools (FSU, UNC, ND, UVA and/or Miami), it would be much easier to fill 2 instead of 5.

 

[ZooCougar]

Because if they don't, NBC/FOX/CBS will if they are in the B1G.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

wrong

 

[ZooCougar]

A couple of reasons. First, better matchups = better ratings as getting the most marketable programs into the same conference will increase ratings. FSU games in the SEC will have better ratings than in the ACC. Next, we know how ESPN works. Say they move 4 ACC schools to their other property, the SEC. Pay them 3x more, get better ratings, don't renew the ACC contract after 2027, and save money as now they are paying 4 teams less than the 18 programs in the ACC.

No. Absolutely not. You don’t raise $70M in value over matchups. That’s soooo fuzzy.

The answer is nobody is going pay $70M more for a school that is valued at $30M a year now.

The media money is drying up as it is. They didn’t even give Oregon and Washington full shares.

And nobody is touching FSU with a ten foot pole until they are clean of all of their legal woes.

 

[John]

Because the other 12 schools outvoted them and there was some serious pressure nationally to find CalFord a P4 home.

National pressure from who?

 

[shizzle787]

And yet UNC, FSU and Clem still didn’t vote for them.

NC State flipped.

 

[UConnJim]

Imagine when they play Bama, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee…… every week. They will be crying we can’t compete. What happened to Wake and Cuse?

Go back and look at FSU's schedules before joining the ACC. They used to play ~3 SEC schools per year plus some other marquee games. Look at 1990, FSU played Auburn, LSU, South Carolina, Florida plus Miami. FSU does not perceive the ACC schools as their football peers, but think the SEC schools are. FSU's recruits against the SEC schools, with the exception of Miami.

 

[Ha Who]

Go back and look at FSU's schedules before joining the ACC. They used to play ~3 SEC schools per year plus some other marquee games. Look at 1990, FSU played Auburn, LSU, South Carolina, Florida plus Miami. FSU does not perceive the ACC schools as their football peers, but think the SEC schools are. FSU's recruits against the SEC schools, with the exception of Miami.

There is a difference between 2-3 marquee games and a full schedule

 

[ZooCougar]

Go back and look at FSU's schedules before joining the ACC. They used to play ~3 SEC schools per year plus some other marquee games. Look at 1990, FSU played Auburn, LSU, South Carolina, Florida plus Miami. FSU does not perceive the ACC schools as their football peers, but think the SEC schools are. FSU's recruits against the SEC schools, with the exception of Miami.

Yeah go back and look at schedules from 35 years ago. Because that’s still relevant.

 

[Vowelguy]

That advances the conversation.

I didn’t think I needed to restate what has been discussed dozens of times.

Most ACC schools preferred UConn, but only slightly.
Four schools — BC , Syracuse, FSU, Clemson — were adamant that it had to be Louisville.
Since the other schools weren’t strongly tied to UConn, they were fine with taking Louisville to appease the others.

 

[ZooCougar]

I didn’t think I needed to restate what has been discussed dozens of times.

Most ACC schools preferred UConn, but only slightly.
Four schools — BC , Syracuse, FSU, Clemson — were adamant that it had to be Louisville.
Since the other schools weren’t strongly tied to UConn, they were fine with taking Louisville to appease the others.

But they didn’t even sniff in our direction this summer.

 

[uconnfan68]

But they didn’t even sniff in our direction this summer.

BC still has a lot of sway.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

BC still has a lot of sway.

As evidenced by what?

 

[UConnJim]

Yeah go back and look at schedules from 35 years ago. Because that’s still relevant.

It shows who FSU would like to play. Before they joined the ACC, they really didn't play any teams in the ACC at the time, maybe 1 per year. (They played Miami but they weren't in the ACC at the time.) They have been playing ACC football for over 30 years and they have played UNC and Virginia 21 and 18 times respectively about as many times as SEC schools Auburn and South Carolina. Just like if you looked at Pitt's past schedules and it shows they would like to play West Virginia and Penn St. every year.

 

[BarkingDog]

According to Greg Swaim of Greg Swaim Sports, Clemson and Florida State could soon announce their departures from the ACC to join either the SEC or the Big Ten; with North Carolina, Virginia, and Miami possibly joining them, and the Big 12 having their eyes on Louisville, NC State, Virginia Tech, and Pitt.

Says announcement could come before the end of 2023.

RUMOR: Clemson, FSU may announce ACC departure for SEC or Big Ten

Clemson and Florida State, among other schools, may announce a departure from the ACC for the SEC or the Big Ten before the end of 2023.

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