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ZooCougar said:
Well it’s already the G7. Plus it wouldn’t change their fate much by adding UConn instead.
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UConn is the only brand in the list you named. We all know our value is minimal but it’s more than Memphis and Tulane. SMU got in because they’re playing for free essentially.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
UConn is the only brand in the list you named. We all know our value is minimal but it’s more than Memphis and Tulane. SMU got in because they’re playing for free essentially.
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What’s our football value?
 
If the GOC can truly be cracked, the end result is likely UNC, UVa and GaTech in the Big Ten - perhaps the SEC might be interested in footholds in NC and Virginia, but the Big 12 would take everything it could get from the ACC. I think FSU overestimates itself.

Basketball guy Yormark would probably trip over himself to get Duke hoops.
 
For the skeptics who think UConn has no chance of joining the ACC, this will be a different conference once FSU and Clemson depart. We have a chance if we don't pull the same kind of mistake we did a dozen years ago.
 
ZooCougar said:
We’re not even in the conversation.

“Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark has even focused on basketball, which he views as undervalued. A Big 12 with basketball powers that include Arizona, Kansas, Baylor, UNC, Duke, Virginia, Louisville and so on would easily be the best in the country.”
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Yeah the basketball power that is Louisville, nice call.
 
ZooCougar said:
What’s our football value?
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Not sure tulanes is much more just because they’ve been decent for a year or two. If ACC loses FSU/Clemson/UNC/UVa/Miami it’s a nothing conference. Maybe a Big East merger but it’s not worth a thing.
 
Hard pass on joining a conference called the new ACC which is mostly the old AAC. It's not worth us damaging the basketball brand to chase football in a glorified G5 league. As painful as it is for some to hear, UConn as an institutional whole is better off in a thriving Big East with independent football than it would be in a watered down ACC. Read Mike Anthony's piece today about the demand for basketball tickets and that will tell you most of what you need to know here.
 
Drew said:
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FSU joining the Big 12 makes no sense. The ACC schools make more than the Big 12 schools, and the better brands are in the ACC.
 
shizzle787 said:
FSU joining the Big 12 makes no sense. The ACC schools make more than the Big 12 schools, and the better brands are in the ACC.
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I think the Big 12 will survive as the P3 and the addition of FSU will strengthen them even more. Maybe they will add Clemson as well and eventually the other ACC schools listed in a previous post above. And yes, Louisville will survive. The absolute tragedy here was the Big 12 train leaving UConn at the station. There is no longer anywhere to go but down. Only Wake and BC will be left, like OSU and WSU are in the former PAC 12.
 
From yesterday but timely discussion:



-> As for Kelly’s proposed 64-team football conference — that sounds neat and tidy, but what incentive do the SEC and Big Ten have to join forces with the less-valued ACC and Big 12? “Every year, we (would) play seven games against the West Coast teams, and then we play the East — Syracuse, Boston College, Pitt, West Virginia, Virginia. Then the next year you play the South, while you still play your seven (West Coast) teams.” That’s . . . not an attractive schedule. Fox is paying you guys $65 million a year to play Ohio State and Penn State, not Syracuse and Boston College.

As I’ve written every couple of months for the past five years, when conference consolidation comes, the magic cutline won’t be 64; it will be 32 or less. It will be the very top brands that drive the overwhelming majority of the television value banding together. Especially once the courts inevitably rule that schools must share their revenue with the athletes and/or pay them a salary. Ohio State, with its $250 million in annual athletics revenue, can afford to cut those checks without breaking a sweat. Maryland, whose overall budget is less than half that ($114 million), would have a much tougher time of it. <-
 
huskymedic said:
From yesterday but timely discussion:

https://twitter.com/TheAthleticCFB/status/1737503374222696463?s=20

-> As for Kelly’s proposed 64-team football conference — that sounds neat and tidy, but what incentive do the SEC and Big Ten have to join forces with the less-valued ACC and Big 12? “Every year, we (would) play seven games against the West Coast teams, and then we play the East — Syracuse, Boston College, Pitt, West Virginia, Virginia. Then the next year you play the South, while you still play your seven (West Coast) teams.” That’s . . . not an attractive schedule. Fox is paying you guys $65 million a year to play Ohio State and Penn State, not Syracuse and Boston College.

As I’ve written every couple of months for the past five years, when conference consolidation comes, the magic cutline won’t be 64; it will be 32 or less. It will be the very top brands that drive the overwhelming majority of the television value banding together. Especially once the courts inevitably rule that schools must share their revenue with the athletes and/or pay them a salary. Ohio State, with its $250 million in annual athletics revenue, can afford to cut those checks without breaking a sweat. Maryland, whose overall budget is less than half that ($114 million), would have a much tougher time of it. <-
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I love how the writer knows that Maryland is screwed with an athletics budget of $114M but Shizzle still thinks teams like Saint Louis and DePaul are going to be able to play in this new world with budgets 1/4 of that
 
buddy said:
I think the Big 12 will survive as the P3 and the addition of FSU will strengthen them even more. Maybe they will add Clemson as well and eventually the other ACC schools listed in a previous post above. And yes, Louisville will survive. The absolute tragedy here was the Big 12 train leaving UConn at the station. There is no longer anywhere to go but down. Only Wake and BC will be left, like OSU and WSU are in the former PAC 12.
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Florida State is trying to make more revenue, not less. The Big 12 is a step back revenue-wise.
 
Drew said:
I love how the writer knows that Maryland is screwed with an athletics budget of $114M but Shizzle still thinks teams like Saint Louis and DePaul are going to be able to play in this new world with budgets 1/4 of that
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They are going to pay their athletes (after they get to the minimum number of sports) as close to minimum wage as possible. They will afford it. Will they compete? No. Will they try? Yes.
 
Rufus said:
Working through third parties so there is no direct contact between the schools and conferences.
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There was no reason for the B10 to collude with anyone. They got UCLA and USC.

After that the BiG didn't care. They took Ore/Wash, but that was a borderline call, not some awesome prize they were waiting to be available.

And if they really wanted them, they would've offered them before Colorado bolted. The BiG needed nothing from the B12.

The B12 was the big winner of the PAC collapsing. It got programs that added value, and it got one less competitor to fight for the remaining scraps not taken by BiG/SEC.
 
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