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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Mora4Prez said:
I say this again - what is the logical path forward for our football team?

In my head it’s (disgustingly) maybe beg the AAC to come back for a few years til we build up enough goodwill to maybe get into the BIG XII or remnants of post-dissolution ACC. It’s not ideal but being an independent isn’t doing us any favors financially, scheduling-wise, or bowl-game wise.
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football is done unless some unexpected realignment happens in the next year or two, or FSU goes full crazy and tries to leave the ACC extra early
 
JMick said:
football is done unless some unexpected realignment happens in the next year or two, or FSU goes full crazy and tries to leave the ACC extra early
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That’s what I’m terrified of. But that being said, every non P-5 school isn’t giving up their programs. ECU, Tulane etc. aren’t just cutting them. We need figure out the next best non p5 option.
 
JMick said:
football is done unless some unexpected realignment happens in the next year or two, or FSU goes full crazy and tries to leave the ACC extra early
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Aren't you a lawyer? Why do you keep repeating the "FSU leaves the ACC" absurdity?
 
Mora4Prez said:
I say this again - what is the logical path forward for our football team?

In my head it’s (disgustingly) maybe beg the AAC to come back for a few years til we build up enough goodwill to maybe get into the BIG XII or remnants of post-dissolution ACC. It’s not ideal but being an independent isn’t doing us any favors financially, scheduling-wise, or bowl-game wise.
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This strategy has worked great for the last 20 years.
 
JMick said:
It's funny you bring up boxing because I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the next decade or two they put weight limits on positions. It would solve a lot of the injury issues imo
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This is Sprint football.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Aren't you a lawyer? Why do you keep repeating the "FSU leaves the ACC" absurdity?
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no, not a lawyer.

I said if they go full crazy. They very well could attempt to leave even if they technically can't. Some of these football schools live on a different planet.
 
This move solidified the end of the ACC. UConn's best move right now is to not make a bad knee-jerk move to a G5 conference and stand pat for the remnants of the impending ACC dissolution or pick up a future B12 invite.

It is unconscionable how stupid the ACC is to have added these three against the objections of their three biggest brands. There's no way this further solidifies the ACC GOR, if anything it provides those three more loopholes to get out of it. Remember when the Big East added SDSU and Boise? This is basically that, the beginning of the end.
 
noeynox said:
This is Sprint football.
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It'll never get as extreme as sprint football. I'm thinking more like

300lbs for interior O-line & D-line

250lbs for DE/TE

225 for LB, RB and QB

190 for DB, WR
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
This move solidified the end of the ACC. UConn's best move right now is to not make a bad knee-jerk move to a G5 conference and stand pat for the remnants of the impending ACC dissolution or pick up a future B12 invite.

It is unconscionable how stupid the ACC is to have added these three against the objections of their three biggest brands. There's no way this further solidifies the ACC GOR, if anything it provides those three more loopholes to get out of it. Remember when the Big East added SDSU and Boise? This is basically that, the beginning of the end.
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I think this actually saves the ACC as an institution but destroys its competitiveness.
 
JMick said:
no, not a lawyer.

I said if they go full crazy. They very well could attempt to leave even if they technically can't. Some of these football schools live on a different planet.
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I thought you were a lawyer.

Just walking out is not how contracts work, unless the leadership of FSU wants to personally be liable for the violations of the agreement and also risk jail time.
 
JMick said:
It'll never get as extreme as sprint football. I'm thinking more like

300lbs for interior O-line & D-line

250lbs for DE/TE

225 for LB, RB and QB

190 for DB, WR
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Yeah i don't think this will ever happen. FB was always the sport where the fat kid could be fat and still find a place to play.
 
JMick said:
I think this actually saves the ACC as an institution but destroys its competitiveness.
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Lol how?

In the scenario where FSU, Clemson, and UNC find a way out of the GOR to go elsewhere, that means a fourth likely comes along to prevent odd numbers - we'll say it's NC State over Duke. Perhaps they go to 6 and take Duke and Miami too. If those four/six are out, ND is right behind them out the door to full independence. Heck, the Big East should let them park their Olympic sports just for the hell of it.

Now you have an ACC of:
BC
Syracuse
Pitt
Wake
GT
Louisville
VT
UVA
SMU
Cal
Stanford

That group ain't surviving. It'd only be a matter of time before the two Virginias and GT find new homes, the three western teams realize this is a disaster. At that point, the Big East would be wise to propose an all-sports merger.

What I proposed is not a highly unlikely scenario. The ACC right now is a complete house of cards.
 
Patman said:
because FSU is leaving the ACC, its just a matter of when. It becomes cheaper every year
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Not only cheaper, but this move likely makes it more legally plausible.

I'm not a lawyer so perhaps you can add more, but wouldn't this move give them the cover to say the league made moves against the best interest of the group and therefore the GOR should be nullified...or something to that effect?
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Not only cheaper, but this move likely makes it more legally plausible.

I'm not a lawyer so perhaps you can add more, but wouldn't this move give them the cover to say the league made moves against the best interest of the group and therefore the GOR should be nullified...or something to that effect?
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unless somebody wants to tell me that there's a term in GOR that involves like double or triple penalties there will be a movement eventually. The question is, b10 or sec or both.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Hold on. When UConn did play rough, half this board, including you, lost your spit.

UConn's problem was geography. BCU convinced the ACC that it owned New England, and Syracuse convinced the ACC that they owned New York. Neither school will ever allow us in the ACC as a result, and that pretty much puts a stake in us with the ACC, which was always the most likely destination.
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We never played rough.

You, as per usual, are off the wall.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Lol how?

In the scenario where FSU, Clemson, and UNC find a way out of the GOR to go elsewhere, that means a fourth likely comes along to prevent odd numbers - we'll say it's NC State over Duke. Perhaps they go to 6 and take Duke and Miami too. If those four/six are out, ND is right behind them out the door to full independence. Heck, the Big East should let them park their Olympic sports just for the hell of it.

Now you have an ACC of:
BC
Syracuse
Pitt
Wake
GT
Louisville
VT
UVA
SMU
Cal
Stanford

That group ain't surviving. It'd only be a matter of time before the two Virginias and GT find new homes, the three western teams realize this is a disaster. At that point, the Big East would be wise to propose an all-sports merger.

What I proposed is not a highly unlikely scenario. The ACC right now is a complete house of cards.
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Because there are probably only so many places to go. The ACC will just be AAC 2.0 but it'll have the brand and it'll stick around for a while
 
Patman said:
unless somebody wants to tell me that there's a term in GOR that involves like double or triple penalties there will be a movement eventually. The question is, b10 or sec or both.
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Ah…the term is Grant of Rights.

You can’t pledge your rights to another conference because they are already signed away.
 
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