Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[nelsonmuntz]

College sports is getting hit with four of the most dramatic changes in its history: NIL, Transfer Portal, end of cable bundle, and the demographic cliff for all colleges.

I don’t know what happens next, and neither does anyone else. The future is most definitely not written in stone though.

 

[JohnFSilver]

College sports is getting hit with four of the most dramatic changes in its history: NIL, Transfer Portal, end of cable bundle, and the demographic cliff for all colleges.

I don’t know what happens next, and neither does anyone else. The future is most definitely not written in stone though.

NIL is the least consequential. People worried about players getting paid. Everyone will have competitive offers in major colleges in the next couple of years. Kids will start to flick towards amenities and lifestyle than straight cash.

Transfer portal has upended the sport. No more days of teams hoarding talent.

The last two are timebombs. Money is gone from the cable bundle. It’s over as a growth product. Every year should be less money u get.

Demo cliff? It’s going to smash small colleges

 

[buddy]

I could be dead by then.

join the club.

 

[noeynox]

join the club.

Damn. You're already dead? Shoot, didn't know you still get to post on the boneyard.

 

[UConnJim]

Cincinnati wins big once every 5 years. Ucf been mediocre since that 25-1 stretch. Houston. When did this happen? We’re they in American?

This is not true. Since 2007, Cincinnati has won 9 or more games 12 times. And, they have been to the CFP, the only G5 school to have gotten a bid. As for Houston, since 2011, they have had 3 seasons with 12 or 13 wins.

 

[NH Husky]

UCF also has like 50k students and is in a large population center in the 3rd most populous and fastest growing state in the country. It's an attractive addition.

Disagree. I live down here. UCF stuff shows up in discount clothing stores. Florida all over. More USF than UCF (at least near Tampa).

 

[ZooCougar]

Big 10 could sure use some of our national championships.

They seem to be doing ok without them. This is not a meritocracy. It’s a fashion show.

 

[noeynox]

This is not true. Since 2007, Cincinnati has won 9 or more games 12 times. And, they have been to the CFP, the only G5 school to have gotten a bid. As for Houston, since 2011, they have had 3 seasons with 12 or 13 wins.

Every G5 school to get called up has had some excellent seasons. Since 2007, we won 9 games maybe once.

 

[superjohn]

They seem to be doing ok without them. This is not a meritocracy. It’s a fashion show.

They're doing amazing at collecting money, they're doing horribly at winning.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Disagree. I live down here. UCF stuff shows up in discount clothing stores. Florida all over. More USF than UCF (at least near Tampa).

OK well at least they live in a part of the country that's rapidly growing unlike UConn. Half this board has probably fled Connecticut for Florida which tells you everything you need to know about where the money's going.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I don’t think one caused the others. UConn goes 8-4 every year over next 3 years, they won’t be any more attractive.

UCF is the one team I see that really elevates themselves by having two good years in a row on a poor schedule.

It will help. But the program has to prepare like the call is never gonna come .

Three consecutive eight win seasons leading up to the B-12's most recent expansion would have benefitted us tremendously. At this point, we'll need to set our sites a whole lot higher as the three schools that were upgraded without a prior football national title each had a couple of seasons where they were clearly among the top five (whether voters did or did not give them sufficient credit).

If our fan base starts thinking 8-4 seasons are sufficient to stake a claim, well, we're as clueless about this as many claim.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

NIL is the least consequential. People worried about players getting paid. Everyone will have competitive offers in major colleges in the next couple of years. Kids will start to flick towards amenities and lifestyle than straight cash.

Transfer portal has upended the sport. No more days of teams hoarding talent.

The last two are timebombs. Money is gone from the cable bundle. It’s over as a growth product. Every year should be less money u get.

Demo cliff? It’s going to smash small colleges

Demo cliff is taking down WVU in real time. Small colleges can merge up. What will bad large schools do?

 

[NH Husky]

OK well at least they live in a part of the country that's rapidly growing unlike UConn. Half this board has probably fled Connecticut for Florida which tells you everything you need to know about where the money's going.

Yeah. But like me they carry their UCONN fandom with them. The “away” noise at last years UCONN/Florida hoops game was spectacular.
Selfishly I would be very happy to see ourselves with USF or UCF in the same conference again.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

NIL may turn out to be the most important of the changes hitting college sports.

 

[noeynox]

NIL may turn out to be the most important of the changes hitting college sports.

Put together some nice collectives and kids are gonna take the money. Most ain't playing pro, so why wouldn't you put a couple hundred k in your pocket if you get the chance.

 

[buddy]

Damn. You're already dead? Shoot, didn't know you still get to post on the boneyard.

Not yet, but I am trying to will myself to stay alive until 2036 to see what happens with the ACC.

 

[superjohn]

Not yet, but I am trying to will myself to stay alive until 2036 to see what happens with the ACC.

You won't have to wait even close to that long.

 

[noeynox]

Lawsuit time?

 

[noeynox]

Not yet, but I am trying to will myself to stay alive until 2036 to see what happens with the ACC.

Easy money for you.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Yep.
Case in point, GE went from CT to MA.
Not saying the situations were/are comparable, but companies will leave if they think there is a better location.

Many states would gladly woo ESPN with tax breaks and other incentives.

And then GE tried to get Boston to approve building a helipad at their new headquarters so their key executives could still live in the Gold Coast and frolic NYC, only to realize their building was right under Logan Airport's , which happens to be right under the flight path for Logan's 4L/22R, 4R/22L, and 9/27 runways. The FAA tanked that idea quick. The company then sold huge pieces to cover their debt load from GE Capital. More recently (2022), GE decided to split into 3 companies - GE Healthcare HQ'd in Chicago, GE Vernova HQ'd across the river in Cambridge, and GE Aerospace HQ'd outside of Cincinnati. As a result, the headcount at the their new (2019), now former headquarters, dropped to under 200 (was planned to house 800) resulting in a second proposed building getting the ax before GE sold it. GE reportedly spent $200 million on it, less $87 Million from the Commonwealth of Mass, which they may or may not have to pay back, and only netted $98 Million in its sale. That worked well for both.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

It’s really hard to move a company’s headquarters.

No, it's really hard to move one's headquarters successfully and too often its driven by the ego of a CEO instead of a sound business decision.

GE's move to Boston didn't work out well.

Mass also bragged about getting the HQ for the combined Raytheon/UTC merger in 2020 only for the 'new' RTC to move it's HQ to Arlington VA (DC) in 2022.

Bretolini was so mad that he received push-back trying to move Aetna's HQ to NYC (Chelsea) in 2018, which was near his home, to a more dynamic (and exponentially more expensive for most employees) environment than Hartford, he orchestrated Aetna’s sale to CVS and promptly retired (he’s now the CEO of Oscar Health, which is based in NYC).
My favorite was when Frissora moved Hertz's headquarters from the North Jersey suburbs to Florida (along with Thrifty, which Hertz just bought and was HQ'd in Tulsa) in 2012 citing lower taxes, tax incentives ($84 million from Florida) and key tourists markets in Orlando and Miami. So, it was shock to many when it was announced that it's new headquarters would be in Estero, which is a small town between Ft. Myers and Naples. Naples just happened to be where Frissora was already living in a luxury high-rise condo on the beach and 'commuting' to Jersey for work. For some reason, most of the senior leadership and mid-level management teams did not relocate with him and that loss was cited as a contributing factor to Hertz’s financial and operational issues that culminated in 2020 with a bankruptcy filing, which also wiped-out Florida’s investment.

 

[uconnyankee]

Lawsuit time?

In further breaking news….

 

[Chin Diesel]

No, it's really hard to move one's headquarters successfully and too often its driven by the ego of a CEO instead of a sound business decision.

GE's move to Boston didn't work out well.

Mass also bragged about getting the HQ for the combined Raytheon/UTC merger in 2020 only for the 'new' RTC to move it's HQ to Arlington VA (DC) in 2022.

Bretolini was so mad that he received push-back trying to move Aetna's HQ to NYC (Chelsea) in 2018, which was near his home, to a more dynamic (and exponentially more expensive for most employees) environment than Hartford, he orchestrated Aetna’s sale to CVS and promptly retired (he’s now the CEO of Oscar Health, which is based in NYC).
My favorite was when Frissora moved Hertz's headquarters from the North Jersey suburbs to Florida (along with Thrifty, which Hertz just bought and was HQ'd in Tulsa) in 2012 citing lower taxes, tax incentives ($84 million from Florida) and key tourists markets in Orlando and Miami. So, it was shock to many when it was announced that it's new headquarters would be in Estero, which is a small town between Ft. Myers and Naples. Naples just happened to be where Frissora was already living in a luxury high-rise condo on the beach and 'commuting' to Jersey for work. For some reason, most of the senior leadership and mid-level management teams did not relocate with him and that loss was cited as a contributing factor to Hertz’s financial and operational issues that culminated in 2020 with a bankruptcy filing, which also wiped-out Florida’s investment.

Lol.

What else happened in 2020 which tanked every rental car company????

 

[JohnFSilver]

And then GE tried to get Boston to approve building a helipad at their new headquarters so their key executives could still live in the Gold Coast and frolic NYC, only to realize their building was right under Logan Airport's , which happens to be right under the flight path for Logan's 4L/22R, 4R/22L, and 9/27 runways. The FAA tanked that idea quick. The company then sold huge pieces to cover their debt load from GE Capital. More recently (2022), GE decided to split into 3 companies - GE Healthcare HQ'd in Chicago, GE Vernova HQ'd across the river in Cambridge, and GE Aerospace HQ'd outside of Cincinnati. As a result, the headcount at the their new (2019), now former headquarters, dropped to under 200 (was planned to house 800) resulting in a second proposed building getting the ax before GE sold it. GE reportedly spent $200 million on it, less $87 Million from the Commonwealth of Mass, which they may or may not have to pay back, and only netted $98 Million in its sale. That worked well for both.

Have a family member who works GE. The Boston move was an unmitigated disaster.

Immelt’s megacy was buy high and sell low. Lol.

The only business that is worth anything is aerospace. Healthcare is OK and power destroyed the company.

 

[JohnFSilver]

UCF also has like 50k students and is in a large population center in the 3rd most populous and fastest growing state in the country. It's an attractive addition.

Meh. Florida for recruiting and people. But UCF brand is crap.

You can’t ask for the 4th or 5th most important school in Florida or the 11th best school in Texas and assume that it is a good move.

I which ucf nothing but the best, but all the people who go to school there are gator fans .