Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[kibblesnbits]

Some interesting things can be done to improve the ACCs situation. I think revising the distribution model to with weighting performance, revenue generation, and reinvestment factors. Consider basketball onlies, also with a weighted distribution model. Or potential BE merger.

Do what they need to do to keep their existing powers while incentivizing others to improve. Even have some provisions that would allow them to remove schools where it’s clear they are only interested in profiting without investing.

Perhaps apply some similar criteria to evaluate potential add candidates. And utilize objective metrics to justify adding teams.

I don't expect the ACC to revise it's distribution model significantly. Why should they? They know Clemson and FSU can't go anywhere for more than a decade and, no matter what the league does, they will jump for more money at the first opportunity. The SUs and BCs might as well suck as much as they can out of the existing structure.

 

[Ha Who]

You haven't been here long have you?

Too long

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[UConnKev]

 

[NE Football]

I imagine that this would depend in large part on the language of the media contracts (broadcast partners may have a say) but hypothetically, if the ACC could, why would they? Why would the school request this unless they would be moving to greener pastures? If they were, logically wouldn't this make the ACC a lesser product? Beyond that, this would set a precedent that could be potentially very dangerous as one of the schools that really does want out could apply for the same deal shortly after the first was completed.

Why would ESPN let FSU go the the B1G and Fox/NBC/CBS? Why would ESPN agree to pay FSU more to play in the SEC and undermine the ACCN that ESPN owns 50%?

 

[Huskyforlife]

I’m going to jump off my roof if we lose to Oregon State.

 

[djct1999]

Yeah, tv execs must be doing cartwheels over these two add ons.

 

[Patman]

I’m going to jump off my roof if we lose to Oregon State.

Look if they're going all in the west you can't stop them. It's the same mistake the pac made but different.

 

[metsfan2323]

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There are a lot of Uconn fans that want to stay in the big east

It's about 80 - 20 in favor of taking a P4 offer if it comes our way. 20% want football drowned in the tub.

 

[Viet Vet]

I don’t think the ACC would know a school that adds value if it swam up and bit them on the ass. The whole conference is run by a bunch people who think it’s the 90s. We give these people too much credit. The entire saga of realignment is an endless series of mistakes of both action and inaction. The Big East didn’t think Penn State “added value”. The PAC didn’t think any Big XII teams except Texas were worthy of it. Even OU. Now those schools helped destroy it.

The ACC has a valuable collection of schools and has done a crappy job leveraging it for them. FSU is a bunch of dopes because they are actively reducing the power and leverage of the conference they are in due to their own arrogance. The smart play would be to go all in on the ACC and make sure it survives, grows and becomes more valuable.

It wasn’t that the Big East “didn’t think Penn State added value”. Penn State needed six of the eight BE schools to approve their membership. The vote was 5-3 in favor, one short. The three negative votes were basketball schools: Georgetown, Villanova and St. John’s.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Why would ESPN let FSU go the the B1G and Fox/NBC/CBS? Why would ESPN agree to pay FSU more to play in the SEC and undermine the ACCN that ESPN owns 50%?

Wouldn't it make sense that FSU would spurn ESPN and go to the B1G?

 

[giddyup]

I’m going to jump off my roof if we lose to Oregon State.

No that’s a quality basketball program fulfilling Skidmark’s dynamic vision.

 

[businesslawyer]

It wasn’t that the Big East “didn’t think Penn State added value”. Penn State needed six of the eight BE schools to approve their membership. The vote was 5-3 in favor, one short. The three negative votes were basketball schools: Georgetown, Villanova and St. John’s.

And if we had brought Penn State into the Big East originally, they still would have left for the Big Ten when the invitation came.

 

[NH Husky]

How does this make sense? ESPN/Fox are now going to pay 6 PAC teams Big XII money when they could’ve matched Apple’s deal and got them all for less a week ago?

 

[upstater]

This guy has to be wrong.

If he's not wrong about this, the B12 might as well pack it in. Yormark would be destroying the future viability of the conference.

 

[metsfan2323]

If Oregon State and San Diego State get added to the club before UConn ESPN needs to be expelled from the state pronto because it means they chose to finance that move.

 

[greenday61892]

Sure , all those that don't care about football... Or really anything but BB...

Yeah that last part is critical. Big East is TRASH in baseball and it'll hinder our burgeoning program in the long run

 

[LoyalFanCT]

will the B12 go to 20 members? UConn, Ore State, SDSU, and who knows fourth, maybe Tulane or SMU, or Cal or Wash State

 

[Huskyforlife]

it’s funny that the B10 took the “valuable” Pac schools, and the rest couldn’t get a good offer. But now they’re all gonna get paid more in the B12 for some reason? Conference Realignment really isn’t based on anything.

 

[GoKU]

Wow. First I've heard of this. Better not be true or Yormark failed. Those two will kill the next media deal, plus it would suck for the eastern and midwest schools.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Wow. First I've heard of this. Better not be true or Yormark failed. Those two will kill the next media deal, plus it would suck for the eastern and midwest schools.

I can't imagine WVU, Cincy, and UCF presidents be supporting this. Yes let's keep sending our athletes out west across multiple timezones so we can be at a disadvantage for all the sports.

Of course, Oregon State and SDSU will try to get in. Will they help with the next media deal and markets?

I can stomache Oregon St/SDSU with UConn but both from the West? WTF are these presidents thinking?

This would be a very very dumb move by the B12. If it is true, it just means presidents are running the expansion not Yormark. If that's the case, it is over for UConn and the B12.

 

[Mora4Prez]

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Wow. First I've heard of this. Better not be true or Yormark failed. Those two will kill the next media deal, plus it would suck for the eastern and midwest schools.

If this is true and we’ve been fully sidelined in another round of realignment after the year our athletic programs just had - that’s brutal. And I think it’ll become increasingly hard to recruit top talent as conference realignment continues to put the biggest and best schools together and we’re stuck in a Catholic league. Just a tough long term picture.

 

[GoKU]

There are only two schools worth taking, Stanford and UConn. Everyone else will dilute the next contract.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Wow. First I've heard of this. Better not be true or Yormark failed. Those two will kill the next media deal, plus it would suck for the eastern and midwest schools.

You’ve fished us for enough attention, can’t you go find the Oregon State board and go lie to them instead?

 

[Bongo Fury]

I am in Corvallis right now. Go UConn!

 

[yuckformak]

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If this is true and we’ve been fully sidelined in another round of realignment after the year our athletic programs just had - that’s brutal. And I think it’ll become increasingly hard to recruit top talent as conference realignment continues to put the biggest and best schools together and we’re stuck in a Catholic league. Just a tough long term picture.

Basketball will never have an issue recruiting.

 

[WestHartHusk]

We are in a timeline where Kansas State and Iowa State are attempting to lever one or both of Stanford and Cal to join them.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

You’ve fished us for enough attention, can’t you go find the Oregon State board and go lie to them instead?

Dude.. He is a poster like the rest of us. There is no need to be hostile. If you don't want to read his comments, the ignore button is your friend.

There are many of us here that are happy he is here giving us some good insights. These realignment things change by the hour so it is not a bad thing to have someone like Goku here.

ASU literally decided to join the B12 last Friday morning when Oregon and Washington didn't show up for their PAC-12 media meeting.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

There are only two schools worth taking, Stanford and UConn. Everyone else will dilute the next contract.

I would be very happy if the B12 can land Stanford and UConn as 17 and 18. It be cool to watch UConn play Stanford in the Bay Area.

 

[How Sway?!]

Never say never but the odds of Stanford joining the B12 is less than 1%

 

[champs99and04]

I imagine that this would depend in large part on the language of the media contracts (broadcast partners may have a say) but hypothetically, if the ACC could, why would they? Why would the school request this unless they would be moving to greener pastures? If they were, logically wouldn't this make the ACC a lesser product? Beyond that, this would set a precedent that could be potentially very dangerous as one of the schools that really does want out could apply for the same deal shortly after the first was completed.

The league and the school would both be able to spin it the way they wanted. In the ACC's case, it would be able to sell swapping Louisville for a bigger market with presumably better academics (not that I think this matters a ton, but Louisville is such an outlier when compared to the rest of the league that I have to think there'd be a contingent of presidents itching to get rid of them).

Not sure the difference between Louisville and say, UConn or Stanford would even make it worth the headache, but I bet if we lived in a world where conferences were allowed to trade schools it would happen. For instance, would the ACC trade Louisville for Houston or TCU if it meant keeping Clemson and FSU happy? They'd have to think about it. It'd also allow the Big 12 to balance its east and west corridors without losing any markets.