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zls44 said:
Only on here are people genuinely dismissing the credentials of Utah, a school that just went to back-to-back Rose Bowls, went as far in the WBB tournament as we did and has a solid MBB history.

Try looking around, guys.
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Utah is a better athletic program than ASU, which will just keep foundering along.
 
CL82 said:
Most of the time those interests are going to overlap. The times that they haven't, though, have been inflection points for the conference and have cost us considerably.
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Often they vary considerably, especially when litigation is involved. It's often in the interests of an organization to settle litigation quickly and move on, while for the decision makers settling means admitting to boards and owners that they could have done something better to avoid the situation, and they'd rather delay finality and then blame a judge for getting it wrong.
 
zls44 said:
Only on here are people genuinely dismissing the credentials of Utah, a school that just went to back-to-back Rose Bowls, went as far in the WBB tournament as we did and has a solid MBB history.

Try looking around, guys.
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I forgot to mention that they average 15.5k a night

FOR GYMNASTICS.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
In mid June you knew the P-12 was six weeks away from imploding?
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The rumors started in what? April? Whenever that happened it was bad news for the PAC and the only thing that would hold it together was incompetence from the member institutions
 
TRest said:
Utah is a better athletic program than ASU, which will just keep foundering along.
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ASU is a sheer volume play, similar to UCF. The school's so damn big.
 
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HuskyinWRNY said:
im surprised the sec isnt pushing their face into the az/asu possibility
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Me too.

Which leads me to believe they are saving room for some combination of FSU, Clemson, NC, Virginia. I think the BiG and SEC are dividing the market north-south with 18-20 programs in each conference.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
I'm not so sure about that either. I'll give you PC, Seton Hall, and maybe St. John's... Do we think the kid paying $100k in tuition at Georgetown is really more similar to a kid from Newington than a kid going to KU?
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Yes? Quite obviously yes?!?!??! Have you ever BEEN to Newington!??!?!?!
 
zls44 said:
Only on here are people genuinely dismissing the credentials of Utah, a school that just went to back-to-back Rose Bowls, went as far in the WBB tournament as we did and has a solid MBB history.

Try looking around, guys.
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I think I was first here to say that I'll feel bad for Utah if they get left out because I do think they've done everything right.

But it's still a weird add from the perspective of the Big XII. They already have the state locked down.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
I'm not so sure about that either. I'll give you PC, Seton Hall, and maybe St. John's... Do we think the kid paying $100k in tuition at Georgetown is really more similar to a kid from Newington than a kid going to KU?
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Eh, two of my co-workers kids went to Georgetown but applied to UConn as a viable option. They are from the Farmington Valley, UConn is considered difficult to get into as in-state students. Most of the BE schools are other than Nova, Georgetown and UConn are pretty average.
 
zls44 said:
Only on here are people genuinely dismissing the credentials of Utah, a school that just went to back-to-back Rose Bowls, went as far in the WBB tournament as we did and has a solid MBB history.

Try looking around, guys.
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5 NCAA tournaments in the past 20 years. Same as Colorado and Arizona State.
 
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JMick said:
I think I was first here to say that I'll feel bad for Utah if they get left out because I do think they've done everything right.

But it's still a weird add from the perspective of the Big XII. They already have the state locked down.
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...why would the Big 12 want one of the hottest rivalries in college sports? In a state whose population is exploding (and gonna run out of water soon, but not their problem)? You're confused on this? Really? Really???
 
zls44 said:
Only on here are people genuinely dismissing the credentials of Utah, a school that just went to back-to-back Rose Bowls, went as far in the WBB tournament as we did and has a solid MBB history.

Try looking around, guys.
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Utah basketball is a non-starter. Connecticut is the best basketball program in the country. Utah is good in football, I don't think anyone would deny that. Cornering the market on Utah and the Mountain time zone doesn't make any sense when we've heard Yormark outline his vision for the conference, UConn makes a ton of sense for those plans he's outlined.
 
UConnJim said:
5 NCAA tournaments in the past 20 years. Same as Colorado and Arizona State.
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Then you should probably be more confused about those two getting in and not the school that actually wins stuff?
 
zls44 said:
Only on here are people genuinely dismissing the credentials of Utah, a school that just went to back-to-back Rose Bowls, went as far in the WBB tournament as we did and has a solid MBB history.

Try looking around, guys.
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Utah was nothing until we gave them Joe Williams - :(
 
HuskyinWRNY said:
im surprised the sec isnt pushing their face into the az/asu possibility
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I think they’re probably hoping the ACC crumbles and they can snag Clemson, FSU, maybe UNC UVA etc. Thats the smart play IMO. They don’t really need to go 4 time zones when they’re pretty much guaranteed to produce 25-50% of the CFB field. Doubling down and putting a complete lock on the most rabid CFB region in the country seems to make sense to me.
 
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superjohn said:
Utah basketball is a non-starter.
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Utah basketball has the 15th-most wins in NCAA history. They have won more games than Villanova and Michigan State.

They're mediocre now. But to say their program is bad is to fundamentally reveal you have no understanding of history.
 
aburks41 said:
Key word once again is "backup plan". Unfortunately for us, the Pac is dead which means Utah gets first dibs at the 16th spot, and they'd be signing their own death certificate if they rejected it.
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Yes.

Issue here is they are eliminating one of oldest leagues in history. I think Big 10 might just absorb the original league.
 
TRest said:
Every kid at UCF grew up rooting for the Gators or Noles. A worthless alumni base.
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I think 95% of UCF's "rise" is because Miami, FSU and UF have alternated being train wrecks during that entire period. They simply stepped into a void.
 
zls44 said:
...why would the Big 12 want one of the hottest rivalries in college sports? In a state whose population is exploding (and gonna run out of water soon, but not their problem)? You're confused on this? Really? Really???
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You think people outside of Utah are lining up to see that game? Really? I'm not sure anyone outside of the state that's not an alum or Mormon cares about it at all
 
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zls44 said:
ASU is a sheer volume play, similar to UCF. The school's so damn big.
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I don't think there's a whole lot of strategy behind taking ASU, other than that they probably have to in order to get UA.
 
zls44 said:
Yes? Quite obviously yes?!?!??! Have you ever BEEN to Newington!??!?!?!
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How many Kansas alum, Oklahoma State, or Iowa State alum do you know?

I think the vast majority of you are making sweeping generalizations about populations/culture.

I mean, my god, again even if all you say is true, nobody is demanding you host the Baylor Bears booster club at your home for a BBQ.
 
JMick said:
You think people outside of Utah are lining up to see that game? Really? I'm not sure anyone outside of the state that's not an alum or Mormon cares about it at all
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More people will watch Utah-BYU football than UConn-Kansas basketball?
 
zls44 said:
Utah basketball has the 15th-most wins in NCAA history. They have won more games than Villanova and Michigan State.

They're mediocre now. But to say their program is bad is to fundamentally reveal you have no understanding of history.
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Come on, there is a reason we don't mention Utah in the same breath as Villanova and MSU. Most of those wins came in the WAC and something called the Mountain States Conference. Rick Majerus ain't walking through that door
 
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