Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[UConnTrumbull]

Context:
Big 12 Day at Rucker Park
KU reporter tweets “hmmm”

Q: re: UConn?
A: (Perhaps)

 

[Skiblets]

Well connected sports insider doesn't know UConn also played in a bowl, beat #19...

Who also went to UT Austin. Dumping on the Big 12 on their way out

 

[ScottBonz]

Context:
Big 12 Day at Rucker Park
KU reporter tweets “hmmm”

Q: re: UConn?
A: (Perhaps)

Former Hartford Courant MBB best writer as well.

 

[jostar1]

-> Furthermore, the Big 12 proudly noted eight of its 10 returning teams played in bowl games last winter, the highest percentage in FBS. All four newcomers reached the postseason as well. And now you're talking about adding... UConn? Willingly doomed its football program to FBS purgatory so basketball could re-join the Big East UConn?

As one well-connected college sports insider put it to me at Big 12 media days on Thursday, "You already have one Kansas. Do you really need another?" <-

Now they are taking shots @ the Commissioner… LOL

Taking bets on who the connected college sport insider is…

This is why it is so horrible for UConn to have things dragged out so long because of the PAC 12. There will be more and more stories like this.

 

[Exit 4]

It’s unclear with whom the Pac-12 has been negotiating. ESPN, Fox, NBC and CBS have all recently struck partnerships with other conferences, including the SEC (ESPN), the Big Ten (Fox, NBC and CBS) and the Big 12 (ESPN and Fox). Streamers such as Amazon and Apple have delved into the sports world lately as well.

If the Pac-12 does choose a streaming service as its primary broadcasting partner, the league is expected to require that streamer to sub-license marquee games on a linear service.

 

[Exit 4]

Seems like this is headed towards a deal with Amazon or Apple with select games also carried on the CW network.....how else to read the tea leaves here when many report that ESPN and FOX are not bidding.

 

[Exit 4]

Source: New Pac-12 rights deal in 'near future'

The Pac-12 will not announce a new media rights deal Friday, a source told ESPN, but the conference's patience "is about to pay off" in the "near future."

www.espn.com

For the Pac-12 to stay intact after the departure of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten in 2024, the 10 remaining presidents and chancellors have to sign the grant of rights, which will depend on their satisfaction with the new deal. The 10 schools in the conference have pre-negotiated the grant of rights deal and agreed on the terms, including how the revenue would be split, which signifies a commitment to the conference -- at least tangentially. The length of the grant of rights will mirror the terms of the television contract.

Leaders throughout college athletics have been paying close attention to the Pac-12 and waiting for months to see how -- if at all -- the new deal could further impact conference realignment. The biggest flight risk, according to sources, has been Colorado, and it remains to be seen if the administration there has the patience to wait for the new deal before making a major decision that could have a tidal wave of effects.

The uncertainty in the Pac-12 has been magnified by the Big 12's unabashed interest in the possibility of further conference expansion and its six-year, $2.2 billion dollar television deal with ESPN and FOX that runs through 2031.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Context:
Big 12 Day at Rucker Park
KU reporter tweets “hmmm”

Q: re: UConn?
A: (Perhaps)

UConn needs to crash the party. Bring DC, AK, Tristan, Samson and a few others. Oh yeah, bring Hurley and the trophy too.

Take center court with the trophy and announce the Champs are in the house ready to take on any challengers.

 

[How Sway?!]

Define mediocre? I seem to remember TCU burying Michigan last year in the tournament a few weeks after losing to Kansas State.

Beating someone by 6 points is burying?

 

[Skiblets]

It’s unclear with whom the Pac-12 has been negotiating. ESPN, Fox, NBC and CBS have all recently struck partnerships with other conferences, including the SEC (ESPN), the Big Ten (Fox, NBC and CBS) and the Big 12 (ESPN and Fox). Streamers such as Amazon and Apple have delved into the sports world lately as well.

If the Pac-12 does choose a streaming service as its primary broadcasting partner, the league is expected to require that streamer to sub-license marquee games on a linear service.

We’ve been at this for 11 years. What’s a few more weeks right?
So other than Oregon UDub, what other marquee games would the Pac have?

 

[CL82]

It’s unclear with whom the Pac-12 has been negotiating. ESPN, Fox, NBC and CBS have all recently struck partnerships with other conferences, including the SEC (ESPN), the Big Ten (Fox, NBC and CBS) and the Big 12 (ESPN and Fox). Streamers such as Amazon and Apple have delved into the sports world lately as well.

If the Pac-12 does choose a streaming service as its primary broadcasting partner, the league is expected to require that streamer to sub-license marquee games on a linear service.

Meanwhile back in the Pac 12 offices

 

[Fairfield_1st]

-> Furthermore, the Big 12 proudly noted eight of its 10 returning teams played in bowl games last winter, the highest percentage in FBS. All four newcomers reached the postseason as well. And now you're talking about adding... UConn? Willingly doomed its football program to FBS purgatory so basketball could re-join the Big East UConn?

As one well-connected college sports insider put it to me at Big 12 media days on Thursday, "You already have one Kansas. Do you really need another?" <-

Now they are taking shots @ the Commissioner… LOL

Taking bets on who the connected college sport insider is…

I went out there to spew venom, but found no need. Most of the comments were of the "hit job", "lazy" or "you know they were in a bowl last year" variety. Good to see.

 

[superjohn]

Define mediocre? I seem to remember TCU burying Michigan last year in the tournament a few weeks after losing to Kansas State.

Of only moderate quality, not very good.

It's a league that plays zero defense and they're losing their only two national football name brands.

TCU beat Michigan by 6 and then contributed to the worst national title game in history. Georgia took it easy on them and only beat them by 58.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

Like that bounty hunter in The Outlaw Josie Wales that had to go back into the saloon for Josie, I too had to go back to Twitter.
"Let me sum up the comments so far. You have put no effort into research before you did this lazy hit piece about a school that made a bowl last year and beat the #19 school. Embarrassing."

 

[UConn Dan]

I went out there to spew venom, but found no need. Most of the comments were of the "hit job", "lazy" or "you know they were in a bowl last year" variety. Good to see.

yeah he got ratio'd

 

[NowInStorrs]

yeah he got ratio'd

L + ratio + cope

 

[pj]

I went out there to spew venom, but found no need. Most of the comments were of the "hit job", "lazy" or "you know they were in a bowl last year" variety. Good to see.

Yeah, also self-defeating to think it's a negative to bring in another Kansas. Where would the B12 be without Kansas? It's their most valuable remaining school.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Source: New Pac-12 rights deal in 'near future'

The Pac-12 will not announce a new media rights deal Friday, a source told ESPN, but the conference's patience "is about to pay off" in the "near future."

www.espn.com

For the Pac-12 to stay intact after the departure of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten in 2024, the 10 remaining presidents and chancellors have to sign the grant of rights, which will depend on their satisfaction with the new deal. The 10 schools in the conference have pre-negotiated the grant of rights deal and agreed on the terms, including how the revenue would be split, which signifies a commitment to the conference -- at least tangentially. The length of the grant of rights will mirror the terms of the television contract.

Leaders throughout college athletics have been paying close attention to the Pac-12 and waiting for months to see how -- if at all -- the new deal could further impact conference realignment. The biggest flight risk, according to sources, has been Colorado, and it remains to be seen if the administration there has the patience to wait for the new deal before making a major decision that could have a tidal wave of effects.

The uncertainty in the Pac-12 has been magnified by the Big 12's unabashed interest in the possibility of further conference expansion and its six-year, $2.2 billion dollar television deal with ESPN and FOX that runs through 2031.

Her "source" is Washington State president Kirk Schultz.

 

[metsfan2323]

Of only moderate quality, not very good.

So what is clearly the 3rd best football league in the country is not very good in your opinion. When we were in the Big East we were in the 6th best football league and we loved it. There is a pecking order in college football and the B12 may be short an elite team, but TCU certainly seems close to filling the void.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Her "source" is Washington State president Kirk Schultz.

Great, does he have more or less insight than his uncle Charles Schultz?

 

[Waquoit]

UConn needs to crash the party. Bring DC, AK, Tristan, Samson and a few others. Oh yeah, bring Hurley and the trophy too.

Take center court with the trophy and announce the Champs are in the house ready to take on any challengers.

That would be cool if it was a work.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Anyone still on the Big East train after seeing the Pac 12 (10?) carry on the way they have?

Big East would be lucky to be on SNY at this rate.

 

[How Sway?!]

Anyone still on the Big East train after seeing the Pac 12 (10?) carry on the way they have?

Big East would be lucky to be on SNY at this rate.

There's 2 years before the contract expires and they are not competing with P5 conferences. The situation is not even close to being the same.

If the B12 is to be believed and basketball is undervalued, why would one of the best basketball leagues in the country with a well know brand not be able to take advantage of it?

 

[CL82]

Anyone still on the Big East train after seeing the Pac 12 (10?) carry on the way they have?

Big East would be lucky to be on SNY at this rate.

In a lot of ways the big east is better positioned to maintain or nominally grow its value. First, because it's only for basketball, the biggest contract is very affordable. So much so that even with a modest increase it still is a pretty good value for the content it provides. Second, and not in significantly, geography lends a hand. Being in the eastern time zone makes it's basketball games more useful.

Keep in mind that relative value drives that analysis. If the Big East walks away with 8 million per school in its next contract negotiation, that would be viewed as a pretty significant win, nearly doubling the existing value of the broadcast rights.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

There's 2 years before the contract expires and they are not competing with P5 conferences. The situation is not even close to being the same.

If the B12 is to be believed and basketball is undervalued, why would one of the best basketball leagues in the country with a well know brand not be able to take advantage of it?

In a lot of ways the big east is better positioned to maintain or nominally grow its value. First, because it's only for basketball, the biggest contract is very affordable. So much so that even with a modest increase it still is a pretty good value for the content it provides. Second, and not in significantly, geography lends a hand. Being in the eastern time zone makes it's basketball games more useful.

Keep in mind that relative value drives that analysis. If the Big East walks away with 8 million per school in its next contract negotiation, that would be viewed as a pretty significant win, nearly doubling the existing value of the broadcast rights.

The amount of slots on premium linear channels is finite - I'm less concerned with money than exposure.

In that sense to @How Sway?! comment they are absolutely competing with p5 leagues for air time. ESPN is all in on the acc / sec and Fox is all in on big ten / big 12 (with some crossover between the two). Those leagues all have tv deals and have expanded with additional programs and content since the last go around.

Simply put, in a vacuum your points aren't wrong per se, but once again the timing of the Big East deal is going to be awful.