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Here is my thing. UConn FB has 12 dates a year. UConn men and women’s hoops have 70 games a year.

Basketball is massively undervalued in current landscape Of college sports. They don’t get football ratings per game, but they get a lot of eyeballs in volume.

Especially the rising popularity and growth in the women’s game. I think men’s hoops will undergo a resurgence soon and the women’s sports have some of the most popular athletes in the United States. I would say hoops is a bargain for TV executives at this point.
 
superjohn said:
Coach P and Diaco sucked, killed any momentum the program had. Hiring back the snake was the worst thing the school ever did though. The guy should've been banished after he quit on his players and left in his plane for his dream school. That looked like the school threw in the towel. It's amazing they were able to hire Mora after that. Dave Benedict has done a seriously good job turning things around.
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That was such scumbag move by Edsall especially after he made Todman tell everyone in the locker room he was leaving. That aside though, I just hated the hire. I didn't want a retread. I actually thought that Diaco, as bad as he was in his last year, was not going to be fired. I remember thinking Benedict, who was just hired as AD, was going to give some speech to the fans about being patient and trusting the process, blah, blah, blah because money was tight for UConn.

When Benedict fired Diaco I was pleasantly surprised and thought "wow this new guy from Auburn means business and he ain't messing around and he will build UConn football". I remember eagerly waiting anticipating UConn hiring a young, bright, innovative sharp mind with out of the box ideas to bring football back. When I went to ESPN.com months later looking for baseball content I caught the headline on the homepage that UConn hired Edsall. I can't put into enough words how deflating that was-it was a punch to the gut.

I know Benedict got pressure by donors to hire Edsall, according to many on here on the Boneyard, so I don't blame Benedict-I think he is doing a really job.
 
gsmooth said:
That was such scumbag move by Edsall especially after he made Todman tell everyone in the locker room he was leaving. That aside though, I just hated the hire. I didn't want a retread. I actually thought that Diaco, as bad as he was in his last year, was not going to be fired. I remember thinking Benedict, who was just hired as AD, was going to give some speech to the fans about being patient and trusting the process, blah, blah, blah because money was tight for UConn.

When Benedict fired Diaco I was pleasantly surprised and thought "wow this new guy from Auburn means business and he ain't messing around and he will build UConn football". I remember eagerly waiting anticipating UConn hiring a young, bright, innovative sharp mind with out of the box ideas to bring football back. When I went to ESPN.com months later looking for baseball content I caught the headline on the homepage that UConn hired Edsall. I can't put into enough words how deflating that was-it was a punch to the gut.

I know Benedict got pressure by donors to hire Edsall, according to many on here on the Boneyard, so I don't blame Benedict-I think he is doing a really job.
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There is no doubt AD Dave for pressured into hiring Edsall. It was one of the worst hires even worse than coach Red Pants. There were so many other options available, but we ended to with Edsall.

I remember feeling sick when I saw that on the news. I tried to accept it at first even though I never liked Edsall 1.0 and his boring ass offense. I was hoping he learned some stuff while at Maryland. I was hoping he learned a new offensive philosophy.

It was obvious after year 1 he was way over his head. UConn should should fired him after year 1 of the second stint.
 
NH Husky said:
The Knights and raiders are new. And look who UNLV currently plays in the Mountain West.
The draw would be other larger fan bases coming to town to see their team play and enjoy a few nights on the town. Probably wouldn’t be much of a home field advantage for UNLV but would make some green. Why do you think B1G took Rutgers and Maryland?
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The Knights are HUGE in Vegas. The locals absolutely love them, ever since day one. In the original scenario (CU, UConn, UA, UNLV) , selecting UNLV over any one of ASU, Utah, Oregon, Washington, or SDSU, unless every single one declined, would be malpractice by BY.

UNLV is absolutely not comparable to Rutgers or Maryland.
 
Skies2018 said:
Honestly this entire section of the BY should be shut down. We’ve talked ourselves into a wild scenario that’s clearly never going to happen. I give our football team 3-5 more years before they kill it.
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Youre Weak Alec Baldwin GIF
 
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He had Locksley as OC at MD. Probably not by choice. If you had Diaco defense with Lashlee offense, likely would have been more successful even with the players at the time. Is RE the only coach to leave by choice? Would have been decent of him and respectful of him to say goodbye but he was hired away which says something.
 
JohnFSilver said:
Here is my thing. UConn FB has 12 dates a year. UConn men and women’s hoops have 70 games a year.

Basketball is massively undervalued in current landscape Of college sports. They don’t get football ratings per game, but they get a lot of eyeballs in volume.

Especially the rising popularity and growth in the women’s game. I think men’s hoops will undergo a resurgence soon and the women’s sports have some of the most popular athletes in the United States. I would say hoops is a bargain for TV executives at this point.
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I don’t think basketball is that undervalued as far as tv goes. There are only a handful of non-March basketball games that even approach an average football game in viewership. It’s not really an additive thing. 10 100k watched games is not as valuable as 1 million viewers for a single game.

It’s the NCAA tournament however that is undervalued. Or at least the money is not distributed in a fair way to the schools. Until that puzzle is solved, basketball programs will get the short end of the stick compared to football.
 
JeepCSC said:
I don’t think basketball is that undervalued as far as tv goes. There are only a handful of non-March basketball games that even approach an average football game in viewership. It’s not really an additive thing. 10 100k watched games is not as valuable as 1 million viewers for a single game.

It’s the NCAA tournament however that is undervalued. Or at least the money is not distributed in a fair way to the schools. Until that puzzle is solved, basketball programs will get the short end of the stick compared to football.
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Look at the inventory. It is undervalued. So many games are out there. You got to look at total volume of people.
 
JohnFSilver said:
Look at the inventory. It is undervalued. So many games are out there. You got to look at total volume of people.
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I agree basketball inventory is undervalued, but the real revenue opportunity is to eliminate the cut the NCAA gets from the NCAA Tournament. And, the womens’s tournament is way undervalued and it will probably be sold on its own going forward.
 
JohnFSilver said:
Look at the inventory. It is undervalued. So many games are out there. You got to look at total volume of people.
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But again, 100k viewerships for ten times is not as valuable as 1-million viewers once. The larger audiences pull in more revenue per ads.
 
Skies2018 said:
I think you misinterpreted what I meant.
I love our football team. I would kill for UConn to go to the Big XII. But I’m not delusional. It’s painfully obvious that our supposed “in” as Colorado’s partner was a fantasy. And without a Big XII invite we’re not surviving long-term. The university just simply won’t choose to hemorrhage money forever.
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Dude, none of that is obvious at all. We had a horrible stretch with three coaches. But we also jumped straight from FCS to BCS level FBS and won right away. Nobody has ever done that. We fixed the coaching. Football will be fine. We were once top 20 in the country in putting guys in the NFL. Ahead of many SEC and Big XII schools.

Realignment is a long game. UConn may still be in with Colorado or with UA and ASU. I don’t buy reports of Oregon moving, let alone Washington. Let’s wait and let it play out. If not now, chances will come again.
 
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UConnJim said:
I agree basketball inventory is undervalued, but the real revenue opportunity is to eliminate the cut the NCAA gets from the NCAA Tournament. And, the womens’s tournament is way undervalued and it will probably be sold on its own going forward.
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If the NCAA used the CFP instead of March Madness to subsidize the rest of college athletics, we would be the most valuable brand in the country between the men’s and women’s program. I hate when people (generalizing here) say that CFB generates more money than NCAAB because that’s just patently false. CFB generates less revenue, but the conferences keep 100% of it
 
aburks41 said:
If the NCAA used the CFP instead of March Madness to subsidize the rest of college athletics, we would be the most valuable brand in the country between the men’s and women’s program. I hate when people (generalizing here) say that CFB generates more money than NCAAB because that’s just patently false. CFB generates less revenue, but the conferences keep 100% of it
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CFB generates more revenue with less programs involved. Even though the schools are getting screwed with March Madness money, no need to downplay football that much.
 
aburks41 said:
If the NCAA used the CFP instead of March Madness to subsidize the rest of college athletics, we would be the most valuable brand in the country between the men’s and women’s program. I hate when people (generalizing here) say that CFB generates more money than NCAAB because that’s just patently false. CFB generates less revenue, but the conferences keep 100% of it
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You have numbers for this?
 
JohnFSilver said:
Look at the inventory. It is undervalued. So many games are out there. You got to look at total volume of people.
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Agree the gap in pay isn’t reflective of the gap in total advertising dollars. They are chasing scarcity. There aren’t enough big football games.

People were stunned at the Big XII deal. It has, honestly, almost no big football games now unless a couple teams really exceed expectations. So what did he sell? Competitive games in football, strong fan bases and huge inventory of big games in basketball. More than any other league. BYU was reportedly quite important as it has a huge base of fans who will probably now follow the league generally (as we do with Big East games).

Colorado captures a top 20 market growing rapidly and a rising hoop team and football team with lots of interest. Both UConn and Arizona fit with what they are selling as a vision. UConn broadens the scope a bit, has more upside and UA is safer. Let’s see what they do.
 
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Bongo Fury said:
My feelin, I don’t know why, is that Fox values UConn. They already have them with Big East.
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I think Fox knows that UConn is worth far more than what they are paying for UConn in the BE and, more importantly, that our value is further strengthened by being in the Big12 with other brands/state schools that have larger fan bases than the BE schools. Probably why we heard months ago that both Fox and ESPN approve of UConn even though we're not currently in a P5 conference.
 
aburks41 said:
If the NCAA used the CFP instead of March Madness to subsidize the rest of college athletics, we would be the most valuable brand in the country between the men’s and women’s program. I hate when people (generalizing here) say that CFB generates more money than NCAAB because that’s just patently false. CFB generates less revenue, but the conferences keep 100% of it
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If the queen had balls she'd be the king.
 
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JohnFSilver said:
UConn isn’t. Being used as a prop. These guys aren’t incredible negotiators who put pressure on. Everything we have see. Has been at face value. BY wants UCOnn. Big 12 fans, who have an inferiority complex with SEC, don’t.

I think the closer you are to BY, the more you are accepting of UConn.

As far as next scenario, Arizona is next target. If Arizona comes, they are 14 for obvious reasons. But, I think they need to bring Arizona State. I think UConn is either 14 or 16.
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This journalist may need an editor. :)
 
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