Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Ha Who]

Do people really think isu would get to ACC before UConn?

Think Rule 1

 

[TRest]

B12 writers have a generous view of the conference schools and their value on the open market. Unless TBoone wills all of his $ to OK State when he dies next year, it has the same prospects as Iowa st., Kansas St., etc. Tiny markets, sporadic national success, and being number 2 school in the state.

 

[shizzle787]

Stay in AAC and add some combination of Air Force, Boise or BYU as football only

or even GA Southern, which is on the rise and in a good market

Don't ever mention that school in connection with UConn again.

 

[mdkhusky]

Don't ever mention that school in connection with UConn again.

are you in reality or on drugs. if the big 12 expands without us were gonna have to invite teams

 

[WestHartHusk]

are you in reality or on drugs. if the big 12 expands without us were gonna have to invite teams

No, we don't bud.

 

[shizzle787]

are you in reality or on drugs. if the big 12 expands without us were gonna have to invite teams

Not necessarily. If we lose 2, we're not expanding, and GSU will never sniff the AAC.

 

[ASweet3781]

Didn't the bloom come off the Houston and Cincinnati rose this weekend? Houston possible claim to fame, crashing the playoff, went up in smoke and they will lose their coach in the off season.. Cincinnati football is clearly on the downswing under Tubberville. I mean, they lost to us for christ sakes. That's not even mentioning their obvious negatives (Houston being in Texas, Cincinnati being 2nd fiddle in their own state and region to Ohio State, Kentucky, Louisville.)

I will never understand why this was not a clear cut decision to go to 12 with BYU and UConn. By far the best brands. Big 12 is clearly run by morons.

 

[sportsart]

If that happens, and we all know it could, uconn should sue every freakin school in the P5. Scorched earth plan at that point.

Have you gone the way of the dude? You're asking and answering your own questions.

You wouldn't be the first to crack under the pressure of CR.

 

[UConnNick]

Oh....just let them form an all Texas conference since it's all one big disfunctional family anyway.

Been there, done that. It was called the Southwest Conference. I think it was formed in the early 1900's and lasted until 1994.

 

[whaler11]

B12 writers have a generous view of the conference schools and their value on the open market. Unless TBoone wills all of his $ to OK State when he dies next year, it has the same prospects as Iowa st., Kansas St., etc. Tiny markets, sporadic national success, and being number 2 school in the state.

How about the idea that on Monday Oklahoma and Texas will announce they are leaving the conference.

 

[TRest]

How about the idea that on Monday Oklahoma and Texas will announce they are leaving the conference.

Are you seeing that anywhere? Other than Flug's "arrangement"?

 

[whaler11]

Are you seeing that anywhere? Other than Flug's "arrangement"?

The Dallas Morning News prediction article. These are people paid to write about the subject. It's insanity.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Jez, look at the list of the "Bottom 10". You'd think the Catholics and the Mormons would finally realize that sex by consenting adults does happen frequently outside of marriage (e.g. in college) and the Immaculate Conception was a "one off" deal.

Just because the schools don't provide them, doesn't mean they aren't available. It's pretty silly really to think that condoms are hard to get. UConn didn't hand them out when I attended.

 

[Exit 4]

Do people really think isu would get to ACC before UConn?

Nope, Barry Tramel is either out of his mind or trying to avoid trashing his conference as memories are long and writing jobs scarce. There is no way anyone other than UT, OU have seats elsewhere and KS maybe. The rest are screwed. The curious question remains, why is OU pushing so hard to hold this conference together? There is a big difference between having friendly conversations about joining another conference and a firm offer.

 

[JSM1970]

OU knows it is easier to get into the playoff from the B12 than joining the SEC and competing with the whole SEC West, FL, TN, South Carolina or the B1G and deal with OSU/Mich/Rutty, etc.

Nope, Barry Tramel is either out of his mind or trying to avoid trashing his conference as memories are long and writing jobs scarce. There is no way anyone other than UT, OU have seats elsewhere and KS maybe. The rest are screwed. The curious question remains, why is OU pushing so hard to hold this conference together? There is a big difference between having friendly conversations about joining another conference and a firm offer.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Nope, Barry Tramel is either out of his mind or trying to avoid trashing his conference as memories are long and writing jobs scarce. There is no way anyone other than UT, OU have seats elsewhere and KS maybe. The rest are screwed. The curious question remains, why is OU pushing so hard to hold this conference together? There is a big difference between having friendly conversations about joining another conference and a firm offer.

I can agree with that. history suggests that KU was left by the wayside only a few years ago.
can't imagine that suddenly they have suitors...

I don't see a conference with Uconn and Kansas as a bad thing, especially with respect to BB.

 

[Husky25]

Just because the schools don't provide them, doesn't mean they aren't available. It's pretty silly really to think that condoms are hard to get. UConn didn't hand them out when I attended.

Depends on where you are. Trojans are probably available at the corner store, but maybe not on a Greater Boston, Providence, or Manhattan campus.

Then again, in a place like Provo? IIRC pre-marital whoopie is against BYU's Honor Code. You can't drink caffeinated coffee on campus without risk of being ratted out, you really think genital prophylactics are readily available? A group of friends and I took a cross country trip after graduation. I realized that Utah is a different world the moment my feet hit the Salt Lake City sidewalk.

 

[Exit 4]

OU knows it is easier to get into the playoff from the B12 than joining the SEC and competing with the whole SEC West, FL, TN, South Carolina or the B1G and deal with OSU/Mich/Rutty, etc.

Yes, true, but man sticking around with the UT gorilla and the six minions has its risks too....suicidal implosion.

 

[Exit 4]

I can agree with that. history suggests that KU was left by the wayside only a few years ago.
can't imagine that suddenly they have suitors...

I don't see a conference with Uconn and Kansas as a bad thing, especially with respect to BB.

Kansas may have options, the rest dont no matter what the fantasy press wants to say. The raw marginal economic add each new school needs to bring to the P4 to not dilute the conf revenues makes it damn near impossible to add any school at this point except for schools in Texas or FL.

I think we could be an exception to that POV if you view our access to the Northeast as something special...whether its the B12 wanting to have a toe hold up here in the biggest media market or its the ACC looking to secure NYC or the B1G looking to secure NYC. The college sports media metrics/market access/media access/marketing access to NY makes judging our candidacy a little different.

 

[auror]

The Dallas Morning News prediction article. These are people paid to write about the subject. It's insanity.

They are people paid to get people to read what they write about a subject.

 

[Jae-VT]

OU knows it is easier to get into the playoff from the B12 than joining the SEC and competing with the whole SEC West, FL, TN, South Carolina or the B1G and deal with OSU/Mich/Rutty, etc.

It is also likely that both OU and UT like their status within the Big-12 whereas in any other conference, they would not be the alpha males. I'm not even sure if OU is an alpha male in the Big-12, but at least the perception is there in the Big-12.

 

[Exit 4]

It is also likely that both OU and UT like their status within the Big-12 whereas in any other conference, they would not be the alpha males. I'm not even sure if OU is an alpha male in the Big-12, but at least the perception is there in the Big-12.

This and/or the lack of a concrete back up plan are the only two reasons that make any sense here. The trick for OU is jumping off the B12 seconds before the implosion. I would judge implosion as the moment either UT walks and/or when the B12 is staring at a new tv/media contract in 2024 that places it a distant 5th to the SEC, B1G, PAC and maybe even the ACC.

 

[huskymedic]

Dodd: Big 12 expansion: Decision may be delayed as many have 'no idea' what will happen

>>Multiple sources told CBS Sports that putting off an expansion decision has emerged as a possible option. The league's presidents meet Sunday and Monday in Dallas. Among other items on the agenda is a discussion on expansion but not necessarily a resolution.

In the rabid speculation that has raged since July, delaying a decision has hardly been mentioned. But one source said, if it goes that way, a resolution on expansion may not come until at least after Christmas.

Another said there would be no surprise Monday "if this is not going to have a lid put on it yet."<<

 

[huskymedic]

Dallas Morning News: The Big 12 will announce its expansion decision Monday- here's a final guide on what to expect

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN 22m 22 minutes ago
One source on Big 12 board of directors meeting/expansion: "Anything is possible when the presidents get in the room and start talking."

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN 19m19 minutes ago
Also of note: presidents dinner Sunday likely to jumpstart Big 12 discussion. Even if expansion happens, may not officially know who Monday.

 

[jostar1]

The Big 12, with a history of power struggles and backroom deals, faces expansion decision

Some things, however, are clear to some observers. Chuck Neinas, the former interim conference commissioner and a longtime college football industry consultant, said last week, "Let's face it: There's only three in the race: U of H, Cincinnati, BYU."

But Neinas, along with many observers, now expect the league to stand pat for the time being.

Former Kansas State president Jon Wefald, who also was present at the creation of the Big 12, veers from the current conventional wisdom by proclaiming that expansion "has to happen. … It's a no-brainer. We have to add. Not maybe, we have to add two more schools."

In Wefald's world, the two new members would be Houston and Cincinnati.

"They fit the geographic pattern. They're great academically. They're becoming more competitive," he said. "They (Big 12 schoolss) have played Houston in all sports and they've been on the campus and they know about the administration and the outstanding nature. I don't think there would be one big 12 president that would have any doubts whatsoever."

Once expansion, which Wefald thinks is inevitable, occurs, "No one is going to question the future, longevity and stability of the Big 12. They need to get eight votes (to approve expansion)."

"Oklahoma and Texas aren't going anywhere. They run the Big 12," he added. "So we might as well get it done with. Let's add two schools to get back to where we were in 1996."

The Big 12, with a history of power struggles and backroom deals, faces expansion decision

 

[Huskygrad88]

The Big 12, with a history of power struggles and backroom deals, faces expansion decision

Some things, however, are clear to some observers. Chuck Neinas, the former interim conference commissioner and a longtime college football industry consultant, said last week, "Let's face it: There's only three in the race: U of H, Cincinnati, BYU."

But Neinas, along with many observers, now expect the league to stand pat for the time being.

Former Kansas State president Jon Wefald, who also was present at the creation of the Big 12, veers from the current conventional wisdom by proclaiming that expansion "has to happen. … It's a no-brainer. We have to add. Not maybe, we have to add two more schools."

In Wefald's world, the two new members would be Houston and Cincinnati.

"They fit the geographic pattern. They're great academically. They're becoming more competitive," he said. "They (Big 12 schoolss) have played Houston in all sports and they've been on the campus and they know about the administration and the outstanding nature. I don't think there would be one big 12 president that would have any doubts whatsoever."

Once expansion, which Wefald thinks is inevitable, occurs, "No one is going to question the future, longevity and stability of the Big 12. They need to get eight votes (to approve expansion)."

"Oklahoma and Texas aren't going anywhere. They run the Big 12," he added. "So we might as well get it done with. Let's add two schools to get back to where we were in 1996."

The Big 12, with a history of power struggles and backroom deals, faces expansion decision

Houston and "great academically" in the same sentence. That's rich.

 

[jostar1]

Is this rock bottom for the Big 12?
Jake TrotterESPN Staff Writer

Since that moment, Big 12 leaders have sent mixed signals. From Texas president Greg Fenves unexpectedly tweeting his support of Houston to Bowlsby interviewing 11 expansion candidates in Dallas to Boren seemingly cooling on the whole premise, nobody, including the presidents themselves, knows what to expect will come from Monday's meeting, when the conference originally was supposed to vote on expansion.

"It's been embarrassing," one industry insider said. "(Big 12 member athletic department officials) are embarrassed by the way this has been handled."

One way or the other, if the league fails to take any action or conduct a vote on Monday after devoting so much time, money and talk to the issue, it will reinforce the narrative of Big 12 instability.

Is this rock bottom for the Big 12?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 5h5 hours ago

No, this is not rock bottom.

That comes next...

 

[huskymedic]

The Big 12, with a history of power struggles and backroom deals, faces expansion decision

Some things, however, are clear to some observers. Chuck Neinas, the former interim conference commissioner and a longtime college football industry consultant, said last week, "Let's face it: There's only three in the race: U of H, Cincinnati, BYU." But Neinas, along with many observers, now expect the league to stand pat for the time being.

Pfft... Neinas was the the search firm who did the search when Pasqualoni was hired.

 

[huskymedic]

Russo @ AP: Big 12 set to address expansion, but what will it do?

 

[SubbaBub]

If KSU backs Texas (Houston), then OU is gone, roadrunner tongue-flipping cloud of dust, gone.

It will mean that UT scared the non Texas bottom feeders into stabbing OU in the back.