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DiacosArmy said:
If the ECU dude can look anyone in the eye I'll be amazed
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He will likely provide them all with a glitzy promotional brochure extolling all of the attributes of ECU, complete with many color glossy photos, just like the brochures he sent to the B12 presidents.
 
upstater said:
The NCAA doesn't subsidize D2 and D3. It just organizes the championships or playoffs.
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As Pat mentioned, that's not *entirely* true. There is a small subsidy distributed to Division II and III member schools based on the number of sports offered that comes from all NCAA championship revenue. Last year, Div. II schools received over 4% of this revenue. Div. III's cut is smaller and practically negligible, but they do get a subsidy also.

The NCAA site shows $37.7 million passed down last year to Division II schools and $26.3 mil to Division III. That money is inclusive so it also is used for grants, programs and championships, but nonetheless there's definitely some subsidy passed down to the individual institutions.
 
junglehusky said:
I am so, so tempted to post a @RealDonaldTrump tweet in the Exclusive, Platinum only, Top-Shelf, Classy Classy tweets thread but I don't wanna die.
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I wasn't sure why Fishy started a thread about liquor, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't derailed by some dimwit. I posted a link to the Grey Goose twitter feed and embedded one of their tweets. Hopefully others are smart enough to follow my lead and keep that thread focused on good liquors.
 
Chin Diesel said:
I wasn't sure why Fishy started a thread about liquor, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't derailed by some dimwit. I posted a link to the Grey Goose twitter feed and embedded one of their tweets. Hopefully others are smart enough to follow my lead and keep that thread focused on good liquors.
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I gather whatever country you are in it's after 9:00 AM (ok to start drinking)
 
Chin Diesel said:
I wasn't sure why Fishy started a thread about liquor, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't derailed by some dimwit. I posted a link to the Grey Goose twitter feed and embedded one of their tweets. Hopefully others are smart enough to follow my lead and keep that thread focused on good liquors.
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He deleted it already
 
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Maybe we should hand these out so people know?

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djct1999 said:
This is because Houston and Memphis add no value whatsoever.
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I'd like to think this is where they put their foot down against Memphis. I think UConn is in decent shape if its about FOX and ESPN determining who has the most value and the conference still having designs on a conference TV network down the line.
 
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I don't feel sorry for the networks.

They chose to overpay for the Big 12 (and the LHN) in 2010 for predatory reasons, not altruistic reasons. (They wanted to keep the best content out of the Pac-10 where it would be out of their hands).

They chose to widen the gap between the B1G and the Big 12. They chose to tell the Big 12 there was no market for another conference network a month before ESPN jump started the ACC network.

Now they're going to squawk about their contractual obligations?

They're reaping the seeds they sowed and I enjoy their pain. The networks have had too much control for too long. Let's watch it all burn up.
 
While I'd love to see the perpetrators of CR get a good rodgering, it doesn't solve UConn's problem. The L8 would be wise to heed the TV people on this.

I'm sure ESPN and or Fox could sell UT and OU on a conference without Baylor, TCU, TT and with Cincy, UConn, and Temple.
 
SubbaBub said:
While I'd love to see the perpetrators of CR get a good rodgering, it doesn't solve UConn's problem. The L8 would be wise to heed the TV people on this.

I'm sure ESPN and or Fox could sell UT and OU on a conference without Baylor, TCU, TT and with Cincy, UConn, and Temple.
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At the moment I bet you could sell 4o million people in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Iowa and West Virginia on a Big 12 without Baylor...
 
Charley Horse said:
At the moment I bet you could sell 4o million people in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Iowa and West Virginia on a Big 12 without Baylor...
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That would have to wait until the expiration of the GOR, but they've done it before. UT/OU/OSU/KU/WV/KSU/ISU/CT/UC/BYU/CSU plus one team from TX. Or 2 teams if you don't want BYU.
 
ChuckCarltonDMN: @mikefinger If Big 12 takes new TV deal with more $$$ not to expand, it would have to include new grant of rights. Would Texas, OU sign off?
 
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Charley Horse said:
I don't feel sorry for the networks.

They chose to overpay for the Big 12 (and the LHN) in 2010 for predatory reasons, not altruistic reasons. (They wanted to keep the best content out of the Pac-10 where it would be out of their hands).

They chose to widen the gap between the B1G and the Big 12. They chose to tell the Big 12 there was no market for another conference network a month before ESPN jump started the ACC network.

Now they're going to squawk about their contractual obligations?

They're reaping the seeds they sowed and I enjoy their pain. The networks have had too much control for too long. Let's watch it all burn up.
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Yeah, but it's their money, and maybe a school like say Kansas might think twice about saying foo to them.

From these quarters, I applaud what theB12 is doing, but I have no skin in the game.
 
Charley Horse said:
I don't feel sorry for the networks.

They chose to overpay for the Big 12 (and the LHN) in 2010 for predatory reasons, not altruistic reasons. (They wanted to keep the best content out of the Pac-10 where it would be out of their hands).

They chose to widen the gap between the B1G and the Big 12. They chose to tell the Big 12 there was no market for another conference network a month before ESPN jump started the ACC network.

Now they're going to squawk about their contractual obligations?

They're reaping the seeds they sowed and I enjoy their pain. The networks have had too much control for too long. Let's watch it all burn up.
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You forgot the part where they destroyed the Big East.
 
Charley Horse said:
I don't feel sorry for the networks.

They chose to overpay for the Big 12 (and the LHN) in 2010 for predatory reasons, not altruistic reasons. (They wanted to keep the best content out of the Pac-10 where it would be out of their hands).

They chose to widen the gap between the B1G and the Big 12. They chose to tell the Big 12 there was no market for another conference network a month before ESPN jump started the ACC network.

Now they're going to squawk about their contractual obligations?

They're reaping the seeds they sowed and I enjoy their pain. The networks have had too much control for too long. Let's watch it all burn up.
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Um, is it okay if we watch it burn from inside the P5 tent?
 
nd73 said:
ChuckCarltonDMN: @mikefinger If Big 12 takes new TV deal with more $$$ not to expand, it would have to include new grant of rights. Would Texas, OU sign off?
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So either we get into the Big 12 now or hope it collapses when the current deal is done for more realignment. At that point (2023 or 2024?) the B1G makes a move for us along with gobbling up Kansas, OK and Texas, OR ND goes full and we are added OR we just merge the best of the AAC with the Big 12 leftovers to make a better conference.

But I would think that a Big 12 GOR extension for 2030 or beyond without us included is bad news for UConn. That would be quite a longterm lockout scenario.
 
The Viking said:
So either we get into the Big 12 now or hope it collapses when the current deal is done for more realignment. At that point (2023 or 2024?) the B1G makes a move for us along with gobbling up Kansas, OK and Texas, OR ND goes full and we are added OR we just merge the best of the AAC with the Big 12 leftovers to make a better conference.

But I would think that a Big 12 GOR extension for 2030 or beyond without us included is bad news for UConn. That would be quite a longterm lockout scenario.
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If we don't get in now, there's no guarantee we ever get in. In the event we don't get in and have to survive in the G5 wasteland for ~8 years, you can assume it'll go like this:

  • UConn gets snubbed again in the next couple weeks.
  • We have a decent 1-2 seasons playing in the AAC against the lame ducks.
  • They leave, our SOS becomes a joke in football and basketball
  • Diaco and/or Ollie eventually leave
  • We lose out on the recruits we used to sign
  • Eventually Big 12 implodes or ACC decides to add #16. By the time that happens, UConn isn't what it is today based on a combination of no money / no competition
  • Media says "UConn has really fallen off, what's the point in adding them?" Irony that the reason we fell off, namely that no one would accept us into their conference, is completely lost and never mentioned except here
  • UConn eventually returns to the Big East and kills off football
 
amory said:
If we don't get in now, there's no guarantee we ever get in. In the event we don't get in and have to survive in the G5 wasteland for ~8 years, you can assume it'll go like this:

  • UConn gets snubbed again in the next couple weeks.
  • We have a decent 1-2 seasons playing in the AAC against the lame ducks.
  • They leave, our SOS becomes a joke in football and basketball
  • Diaco and/or Ollie eventually leave
  • We lose out on the recruits we used to sign
  • Eventually Big 12 implodes or ACC decides to add #16. By the time that happens, UConn isn't what it is today based on a combination of no money / no competition
  • Media says "UConn has really fallen off, what's the point in adding them?" Irony that the reason we fell off, namely that no one would accept us into their conference, is completely lost and never mentioned except here
  • UConn eventually returns to the Big East and kills off football
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I think that just about sums it up.
 
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Been starting to notice rumblings (likely click bait articles) about Big XII considering an attempt at poaching USC/UCLA from the Pac-12. I've even seen minor implications of Florida State, although that seems highly doubtful considering how locked up ACC presently is. Also read something about Nebraska potentially being interested in going back (also sounds like a stretch).

But purely hypothetical, say they add 6:

BYU
UConn
USC
UCLA
Florida State
Nebraska

Divide them up into North and South divisions (maybe East/West; whatever works).

They'd jump from 10 to 16, have a fistful of big name athletic departments (which I would think solidifies their chances of keeping UT/OU), restore an old member in Nebraska, and pin down three (maybe four) major markets (LA, NY/NE and FL) without settling, all in one fell swoop.

...Sounds beyond "unrealistic."
 
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