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@centojack81: @wilnerhotline you really think the P12 will do nothing while B1G & SEC explode with $? Expanding is only way to restart clock, isn't it?

@wilnerhotline: Pac12 wont sit still; Scott always thinking outside box 2) expansion not an option: no value in available schools

@NilssonJim: @wilnerhotline but what about BYU?

@wilnerhotline: Not happening.

@MatthewCassell1: @wilnerhotline @centojack81 He can't even get DirecTV to buy into his network. What exactly are his non-expansion options?

@wilnerhotline:Not sure there is a big new rev stream in short term. But expansion is not the answer. Not happening. No chance.



‏@DSJBWC: @wilnerhotline @centojack81 outside the box like the huge waste of time that is Asia?

@wilnerhotline: Asia part of the long view. Something to be said or long view. Also something to be said for short view

@natecooley: @wilnerhotline, with SEC revenue increasing 60% from 2013-2014 to 2014-2015, do you think Pac-12 could see a similar percentage increase?

@wilnerhotline : Will jump w/ CFP rev and escalator in Tier 1 deal. How much? I took a swing here: http://bayareane.ws/1EOpqBt

@EricBraeutigam : @wilnerhotline are Texas and/or Oklahoma options down the line? They'd be worth waiting for.

@wilnerhotline : imo: If Oklahoma's going anywhere in the 2020s, it's the SEC

@EricBraeutiga: @wilnerhotline interesting. I've assumed the sec would look at FSU/Clemson first. Think that's wrong?

@wilnerhotline : Already in those states

@natecooley: @wilnerhotline Last year P12 distributed 67% of revenue. Expenses were b/c of network startup costs. Will P12 distribute a higher % this yr?

@wilnerhotline: Not network 'startup' costs. network costs
 
noeynox said:
Daniel Mountcastle ‏@Expansion_Crush 6h6 hours ago
Oklahoma brass: Time to consider ideas to strengthen Big 12 http://es.pn/1OE10Rh

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/p...s-time-to-consider-ideas-to-strengthen-big-12
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...and here is a mailbag.


Chatmon: I'm starting to believe we're inching closer to expansion, but it still won't be anytime soon. Frankly, there aren't a lot of really good, available options, but UConn would be worth considering. I would still say it's unlikely, mainly because expansion is a ways away and a lot can happen before then.
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Chatmon: I don't consider it particularly likely (for a lot of different reasons). If the Big 12 power brokers (Oklahoma's president David Boren included) wanted a conference network, they should have done so when they had the chance years ago. Instead, they did not and here we are.
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UT just bought a large parcel of land in Houston and is laying out plans to start a full on branch there. I am pretty sure the president of UofH is more worried about that then who some kids play football against at the moment.
 
  1. Hilton College ‏@HiltonCollege Jan 19
    Special thanks to @UofOklahoma Athletic Director Joe Castiglione for talking to our Super Four Experience class! pic.twitter.com/a2O6q4pbxH

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Hilton College
@HiltonCollege
Consistently ranked as one of the top hospitality programs in the world, we have cultivated relationships with the industry’s top employers.

University of Houston
 
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We need some of you sons of bitches to get your a$$e$ down to Austin. Pronto. Y'all.
#KeyTweets
 
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jostar1 said:
Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · 1h1 hour ago
Fonda San Miguel is now my favorite restaurant in Austin.

Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati.
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Now we know why the B1G uses confidentiality agreements. That said, I wonder if Susan has had the opportunity to enjoy dinner yet at Fogo de Chão in Rosement yet?
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Now we know why the B1G uses confidentiality agreements. That said, I wonder if Susan has had the opportunity to enjoy dinner yet at Fogo de Chão in Rosement yet?
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I think even if she has...we won't know about it until things develop. The not thing that Susan Herbst has developed at UConn during her tenure is a united front on no media leaks until things are finished.
 
Not a tweet, but definitely worth a read. Lays out just how precarious ESPN's future is right now.

http://deadspin.com/espns-uncertain-future-is-already-here-1753901086

This is no to say that ESPN wouldn't invest in a Big 12 Network, but it really throws cold water on the idea that it could be as profitable as the SEC Network for the sole reason that the network doesn't have the cash to spend on buying the rights that they did when they gave the SEC their deal.
 
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“We’re smaller, we don’t have a championship game, we don’t have a network,” he added. “Right now, our Tier 1 media (rights) is slightly undervalued. Over the next 15 years, the delta between us and the other major conferences is going to get large.

"Asked whether Oklahoma or West Virginia could ever leave the Big 12, Bowlsby said, “There are always those possibilities."
 
junglehusky said:
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That's an odd article. Bowlsby says they have no imperative to expand but then says:

"We’re smaller, we don’t have a championship game, we don’t have a network,” he added. “Right now, our Tier 1 media (rights) is slightly undervalued. Over the next 15 years, the delta between us and the other major conferences is going to get large.”

That sounds like an imperative to me.
 
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On a related note I have no imperative to breath but I will be dead in 5 minutes if I don't....

"We’re smaller, we don’t have a championship game, we don’t have a network,” he added. “Right now, our Tier 1 media (rights) is slightly undervalued. Over the next 15 years, the delta between us and the other major conferences is going to get large.”

Sounds like the B12 needs to expand/change or it dies.... is that an imperative?
 
They could expand and still not have a network or revenue parity with other conferences.
 
CAHUSKY said:
That's an odd article. Bowlsby says they have no imperative to expand but then says:

"We’re smaller, we don’t have a championship game, we don’t have a network,” he added. “Right now, our Tier 1 media (rights) is slightly undervalued. Over the next 15 years, the delta between us and the other major conferences is going to get large.”

That sounds like an imperative to me.
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Imperative for what? What schools will make up the difference in money? Without a network, there is no way to increase the media payout. A CCG will provide some money, but not enough to make a dent in the "delta." They now can have a CCG without adding teams, so it will cost them money to add schools.

Even with the network, the money won't come close to even. There is no way ESPN is signing on to a Big12 network paying out what they pay the SEC for theirs. The money just isn't in it. You know I love me some UConn and think you would add to the NYC/NE presence for the Big10/BTN, but it isn't the same for a potential Big12 network. The draw of NYC for the Big10 is the alumni presence that many Big10 schools have in the area. Michigan, PSU, OSU and even Indiana have a strong alumni population. Throw in UConn/Rutgers, and you have a winner. Does the Big12 (Texas) have enough of that presence to give them what they need? Or even enough to make it worth while for Texas?

Then there's to idea of who owns the media rights for those schools. Oklahoma sold their rights to Fox, Kansas sold their rights to ESPN. I believe the others are scattered around as well. How easy will it be to buy those rights back and at what cost? Will Fox/ESPN give a Big12 Network to the other without getting their monies worth? Can there be a Big12 Network without Texas, Kansas or Oklahoma? Not likely.

The Big12 is a dead conference walking and Bowlsby knows it. Teams like Oklahoma and Kansas are falling further and further behind the rest of the college sports world. They can't keep up with the facilities, coaching staffs and support. The lack of exposure they are getting is hurting their student body recruitment as well.

My guess is that Oklahoma/UConn will join the Big10 and Kansas/Cincinnati will join the SEC. Texas will keep trudging along with whomever they can get to fall in line with what they want.
 
dayooper said:
Imperative for what? What schools will make up the difference in money? Without a network, there is no way to increase the media payout. A CCG will provide some money, but not enough to make a dent in the "delta." They now can have a CCG without adding teams, so it will cost them money to add schools.
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You're making a lot of assumptions.

There are ways to increase the payout.
 
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