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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

The best case scenario for UConn was that the exit fee structure remain in place.

Now, the Big 12 can at least imagine a scenario where they can grab Clemson or FSU or Miami or whoever.

As always, the worst case scenario for us is always the scenario that plays out.
 
Fishy said:
The best case scenario for UConn was that the exit fee structure remain in place.

Now, the Big 12 can at least imagine a scenario where they can grab Clemson or FSU or Miami or whoever.

As always, the worst case scenario for us is always the scenario that plays out.
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But the Big 12 doesn’t pay better than the ACC, if I’m not mistaken. Kind of feels like it’s a P2 or nothing for those programs you named. The only way I see the Big 12 as attractive for those programs is if the ACC goes bye-bye like the PAC and you have new money available.
 
jostar1 said:
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So it would appear that the numbers thrown around include programs keeping their media rights. Does this mean that the GOR issue is settled too? Does that end in 2030?
 
UConnTrumbull said:
But the Big 12 doesn’t pay better than the ACC, if I’m not mistaken. Kind of feels like it’s a P2 or nothing for those programs you named. The only way I see the Big 12 as attractive for those programs is if the ACC goes bye-bye like the PAC and you have new money available.
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Depends on how much the Big12 can get in their next media deal. It seems that FSU is he’ll bent on getting out of the ACC and, if FSU/Clemson can’t get into the Big10, how much more would the Big12 contract get if they were in the league.
 
Fishy said:
The best case scenario for UConn was that the exit fee structure remain in place.

Now, the Big 12 can at least imagine a scenario where they can grab Clemson or FSU or Miami or whoever.

As always, the worst case scenario for us is always the scenario that plays out.
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Huh? Clemson and FSU got almost nothing out of this lawsuit. They wanted a guaranteed disproportionate revenue advantage over the rest of the ACC. They got a performance split. They wanted to walk immediately, they got a declining exit fee starting in 2030 that is still massive and exposes them to UNC and UVa beating them to the door.

The Big 12 has a long wait ahead of them for FSU and Clemson. I don’t know that “nothing changes for the ACC” really hurts UConn relative to where we were before.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Huh? Clemson and FSU got almost nothing out of this lawsuit. They wanted a guaranteed disproportionate revenue advantage over the rest of the ACC. They got a performance split. They wanted to walk immediately, they got a declining exit fee starting in 2030 that is still massive and exposes them to UNC and UVa beating them to the door.
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Where did I say that they got anything out of the lawsuit?
 
dayooper said:
Depends on how much the Big12 can get in their next media deal. It seems that FSU is he’ll bent on getting out of the ACC and, if FSU/Clemson can’t get into the Big10, how much more would the Big12 contract get if they were in the league.
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Probably not as much as they would get if they wait until the ACC is able to get full market rate deal. So for them & their fan base it's likely SEC or bust. Also they won't take deals like Oregon/UW did just to get in
 
ZooCougar said:
That’s an interesting point. But lots of schools are cutting wrestling.

I wonder if that’s Title IX and not money related.
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It’s definitely a large part of the equation. Cutting any of the 9.9 equivalency programs on the men’s side allows schools with football programs a way to balance the books without adding more scholarships to the female side. It’s crappy but it’s reality.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Huh? Clemson and FSU got almost nothing out of this lawsuit. They wanted a guaranteed disproportionate revenue advantage over the rest of the ACC. They got a performance split. They wanted to walk immediately, they got a declining exit fee starting in 2030 that is still massive and exposes them to UNC and UVa beating them to the door.

The Big 12 has a long wait ahead of them for FSU and Clemson. I don’t know that “nothing changes for the ACC” really hurts UConn relative to where we were before.
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I’m not sure I agree with FSU and Clemson getting almost nothing. This was a negotiation where both sides needed to look like they got something. The ACC bought itself a few years of relative quiet, and FSU/Clemson got a workable number that makes leaving the ACC entirely possible. If performance based payments are based on ratings, then they made out there as well. FSU and Clemson will almost always be cashing the biggest checks without making it look like The Boston Colleges and Wakes are being completely extorted.
 
UConnJim said:
Look how everything is lining up:

ACC: Can exit ACC for less than $100 million in 2029/2030
Big 10: media deal expires in 2029/2030
Big 12: media deal expires in 2030
CFP: deal expires in 2031
SEC: media contract expires in 2034

So, by 2026/2027, the conference realignment wheels will be rolling!
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Fishy said:
The best case scenario for UConn was that the exit fee structure remain in place.

Now, the Big 12 can at least imagine a scenario where they can grab Clemson or FSU or Miami or whoever.

As always, the worst case scenario for us is always the scenario that plays out.
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Accepting that, in the end, things will work out to absolutely screw us is oddly comforting.

I absolutely agree that by dangling the carrot of ACC teams, potentially becoming available in the relative near future, the chance of a Big 12 invitation to Connecticut reduces exponentially.

On the other hand, the increased likelihood of ACC defectors, particularly those who have voiced vigorous opposition to our joining that conference, increases the likelihood that we could end up there. Of course, whether the ACC leftovers will actually be worth joining is an open question.

I guess the only solace we can take from the ACC/FSU settlement is that leaving things as they are is a death sentence to us. This settlement appears to open the door to realignment, which will break the status quo. At least there may be an opportunity for us to have a soft landing spot. Of course, it's equally possible, that there will be a consolidation which will, de facto, relegate us to the minor leagues.
 
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I don’t see what any school would leave the ACC to take less money in the Big 12. The ACC still makes more money per school.

The Big 12 is maxed out. That’s why they are courting PE and Yormark is looking to split basketball out.
 
ZooCougar said:
I don’t see what any school would leave the ACC to take less money in the Big 12. The ACC still makes more money per school.

The Big 12 is maxed out. That’s why they are courting PE and Yormark is looking to split
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They won't.
CL82 said:
Accepting that, in the end, things will work out to absolutely screw us is oddly comforting.

I absolutely agree that by dangling the carrot of ACC teams, potentially becoming available in the relative near future, the chance of a Big 12 invitation to Connecticut reduces exponentially.

On the other hand, the increased likelihood of ACC defectors, particularly those who have voiced vigorous opposition to our joining that conference, increases the likelihood that we could end up there. Of course, whether the ACC leftovers will actually be worth joining is an open question.

I guess the only solace we can take from the ACC/FSU settlement is that leaving things as they are is a death sentence to us. This settlement appears to open the door to realignment, which will break the status quo. At least there may be an opportunity for us to have a soft landing spot. Of course, it's equally possible, that there will be a consolidation which will, de facto, relegate us to the minor leagues.
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We're cooked.

A G5 level ACC is our ceiling now.
 
UConnJim said:
Remember when people said that the ACC GORs can not be broken? Well, they were negotiated away.

Things change in college sports so you have to keep improving for the future and hope the chips fall your way.
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