Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[uconnyankee]

If you're not a diehard, it is tough listen. Cully meanders all over the place. But he is good for one laugh out loud moment every episode. Last week he called former Yale coach Jack Siedlecki an "annoying bald " when they coached together. Had me in stitches.

Painful…. The first minute was like watching two guys play a drinking game. Not sure what the attraction is.

 

[noeynox]

For a second I thought you were saying Jared had over a million listens. I thinking that's great since he is (was?) one of us.

No Schuman does. But he does a lot of coaching breakdowns, I think he gets a lot of followers from that.

 

[ZooCougar]

It's not a new argument.

The argument has long been that the leak of the conversation was intentionally done to tank things before Yormark might be able to get traction working behind the scenes to get the votes. If Yormark couldn't get the votes, then the hope was nothing would've gotten out in the near-term (or in a way either party had to acknowledge the talks happened). The way it worked out, both UConn and Yormark ended up with egg on their face. The only hope of the move going through was for it to be fait accompli prior to it getting out.

Zanetto didn't do anything wrong... he was simply the tool that was used by his source to get the word out to where it would be checked and put out into the mainstream media (ESPN, local newspapers, etc). This in turn allowed both, the opposition in Connecticut (Senator Murphy, Speaker Ritter), and the Big XII media to jump out in front of Big XII boosters to get out there with their arguments against the move (the detractors, saying that the Big East was the better home; the Big XII media returning to their arguments against UConn football)

He should have known better. 95% of the people who post here would have.

I think he’s noob to this realignment stuff. He should have passed on leaking.

 

[CashewCrew]

Painful…. The first minute was like watching two guys play a drinking game. Not sure what the attraction is.

I can’t explain it but I found that whole episode very entertaining

 

[noeynox]

Was this discussed and I missed it?

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[noeynox]

 

[UConnDan97]

It would work and it would be good for everyone involved, which is why it probably won't happen. Regular basketball games between old Big East rivals (UConn, Nova, GTown, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville) would all be top notch draws, in addition to the obvious big matchups between the top Big East teams and UNC / Duke.

The football addition of UConn will obviously help us monetarily, but will also help teams like BC who's fan base is (not surprisingly) much smaller than the ACC predicted...

 

[ZooCougar]

It would work and it would be good for everyone involved, which is why it probably won't happen. Regular basketball games between old Big East rivals (UConn, Nova, GTown, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville) would all be top notch draws, in addition to the obvious big matchups between the top Big East teams and UNC / Duke.

The football addition of UConn will obviously help us monetarily, but will also help teams like BC who's fan base is (not surprisingly) much smaller than the ACC predicted...

We don’t need all of the Big East. Just the good programs.

 

[UConnDan97]

We don’t need all of the Big East. Just the good programs.

Just like Miami and BC for the ACC, we've both got to accept each other's warts to make the merger happen...

 

[ZooCougar]

Just like Miami and BC for the ACC, we've both got to accept each other's warts to make the merger happen...

Not really. If the ACC invites UConn, Marquette, Creighton, Villanova and St. John’s they aren’t saying no LOL.

 

[CL82]

We don’t need all of the Big East. Just the good programs.

So... us?

 

[UConnDan97]

Not really. If the ACC invites UConn, Marquette, Creighton, Villanova and St. John’s they aren’t saying no LOL.

If the ACC wants to cherry pick, I don't think they would grab Creighton over GTown. Historic rivalries, nation's capital, highly competitive academics, etc.

But if they cherry pick, then it's not a merger. So long as it includes us, I wouldn't care about the rest...

 

[Hoophound]

I don’t like the idea if they don’t let us play football in the ACC. I love it from a rivalry standpoint though.

 

[John]

It would work and it would be good for everyone involved, which is why it probably won't happen. Regular basketball games between old Big East rivals (UConn, Nova, GTown, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville) would all be top notch draws, in addition to the obvious big matchups between the top Big East teams and UNC / Duke.

The football addition of UConn will obviously help us monetarily, but will also help teams like BC who's fan base is (not surprisingly) much smaller than the ACC predicted...

Basketball-onlys would never do it despite it making sense.

 

[UConnDan97]

Basketball-onlys would never do it despite it making sense.

We're quickly approaching an era in college sports where they may not have a choice...

 

[Kolumbo]

Both the ACC and Big East better start taking a serious look at basketball and where it's headed. Some type of merger would help both. Whether a merger or cherry pick, it is an entirely different conference than the SEC and B1G. UConn, Nova, Creighton, Marquett. Maybe throw in Army and Navy with St. John's and Georgetown. WVU or Cincy Temple. The rest of the Big East have markets, or ballast.

 

[ZooCougar]

If the ACC wants to cherry pick, I don't think they would grab Creighton over GTown. Historic rivalries, nation's capital, highly competitive academics, etc.

But if they cherry pick, then it's not a merger. So long as it includes us, I wouldn't care about the rest...

Maybe they would just take Georgetown. They would be absolute morons passing on Creighton.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Not really. If the ACC invites UConn, Marquette, Creighton, Villanova and St. John’s they aren’t saying no LOL.

There is no reason not to invite the whole league, since the league would definitely go to an unequal revenue share if this happened. Maybe require an NIL minimum to remain members.

The ACC needs markets to drive subscriptions. And by overlaying the heavily populated northeastern markets where the ACC's weakest programs are, it makes those markets an order of magnitude more valuable to the ACC then they ever would be alone.

These kind of mergers are low hanging fruit in I-Banking. The #4 and #5 player in a market merge to compete with 1 and 2, and put 3 into a corner. That is what most M&A is. A second-year associate at Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs could create a good merger deck on this idea in two days. The ACC would rather sue itself and argue over league documents that people may or may not have.

 

[Kolumbo]

K specifically mentions UConn. "We could let, not let, but Connecticut would have the opportunity to play football in our league."

The Big East has leverage here. K knows that the ACC is struggling while UConn is red hot. The Big East has MSG. No question cuse, bcu, pitt, louisville would benefit. Duke wants to be in NYC. A merger would really lock out all the other P conferences from northeast and east coast basketball. I think they'd have to lock in UNC somehow because otherwise, the ACC side isn't bringing much else to the table.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

K specifically mentions UConn. "We could let, not let, but Connecticut would have the opportunity to play football in our league."

The Big East has leverage here. K knows that the ACC is struggling while UConn is red hot. The Big East has MSG. No question cuse, bcu, pitt, louisville would benefit. Duke wants to be in NYC. A merger would really lock out all the other P conferences from northeast and east coast basketball. I think they'd have to lock in UNC somehow because otherwise, the ACC side isn't bringing much else to the table.

Man, I’m starting to love Coach K. Never had that on my bingo card.

 

[UConnDan97]

Maybe they would just take Georgetown. They would be absolute morons passing on Creighton.

Why? They need to have the Nebraska market locked up?? Or they just need to have our 6th best team??

Either it's a full merger, or they are going to cherry pick the teams that don't require a large amount of feeding. You would REALLY need to show me that Creighton fits the latter...

 

[ZooCougar]

There is no reason not to invite the whole league, since the league would definitely go to an unequal revenue share if this happened. Maybe require an NIL minimum to remain members.

The ACC needs markets to drive subscriptions. And by overlaying the heavily populated northeastern markets where the ACC's weakest programs are, it makes those markets an order of magnitude more valuable to the ACC then they ever would be alone.

These kind of mergers are low hanging fruit in I-Banking. The #4 and #5 player in a market merge to compete with 1 and 2, and put 3 into a corner. That is what most M&A is. A second-year associate at Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs could create a good merger deck on this idea in two days. The ACC would rather sue itself and argue over league documents that people may or may not have.

Nope. Even in an unequal setup there are plenty of reasons.

Sone of them are utterly dead weight. And scheduling and so on.

 

[ZooCougar]

Why? They need to have the Nebraska market locked up?? Or they just need to have our 6th best team??

Either it's a full merger, or they are going to cherry pick the teams that don't require a large amount of feeding. You would REALLY need to show me that Creighton fits the latter...

Seriously? They are regulars in the Top 25 and better than most of the ACC.

Georgetown may never be good or great again.

 

[Husky68]

Just think, a combined ACC/BE tournament in MSG, maybe prelim games on campus to get to 16 teams.

 

[UConnDan97]

Seriously? They are regulars in the Top 25 and better than most of the ACC.

Georgetown may never be good or great again.

If you think Creighton is the addition that the ACC can't skip out on or they would be "absolute morons", then we can't talk about conference realignment together anymore...