Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[jostar1]

 

[ZooCougar]

I'd be shocked if they got close to $10M. They are looking at AAC level money.

 

[UConnJim]

I'd be shocked if they got close to $10M. They are looking at AAC level money.

What will help the new Pac 12 is later Saturday games. They will be able to offer later Saturday night kickoffs with limited competition. Look at this week. One kickoff after 5 PM Pacific time/8 PM Eastern time, a Big 12 game. The later time slots are not worth P4 money (and was one of the drivers of the Pac 12 breakup), but they are valuable.

 

[ZooCougar]

What will help the new Pac 12 is later Saturday games. They will be able to offer later Saturday night kickoffs with limited competition. Look at this week. One kickoff after 5 PM Pacific time/8 PM Eastern time, a Big 12 game. The later time slots are not worth P4 money (and was one of the drivers of the Pac 12 breakup), but they are valuable.

The teams that people actually want to watch are in the B1G now and they get those slots.

 

[CL82]

I'd be shocked if they got close to $10M. They are looking at AAC level money.

Doesn't the AAC make $10 million per school?

 

[UConnJim]

The teams that people actually want to watch are in the B1G now and they get those slots.

No, they won't. The Big 10 is going to have few 7 PM Pacific Time (10 PM Eastern) or later games. And, there definitely won't be weekly games. Late games aren't good draws so the Big 10 media partners don't want the late starts for the price they are paying.

 

[Storrs South]

Doesn't the AAC make $10 million per school?

I believe AAC get $9 per school and that’s including tv money, tourney credits, and cfp money combined

 

[ZooCougar]

I believe AAC get $9 per school and that’s including tv money, tourney credits, and cfp money combined

Nope. Many of them don't even get full shares too.

 

[ScottVib]

Doesn't the AAC make $10 million per school?

The AAC TV deal is distributed unequally. The legacy members get the original $7M full share, while the 6 new additions split 3 full shares.

Legacy Full Share
Navy / Wichita St
Temple
ECU
USF
Tulane
Memphis
Tulsa
(Army) -- believed to have assumed the football portion of SMU's prior full share.

Expansion Half Share
UAB
UTSA
North Texas
Rice
FAU
Charlotte

 

[Storrs South]

Nope. Many of them don't even get full shares too.

Right but I think the schools in question are getting full shares (except UTSA). I looked again last night I believe the speculation is $8-9 million is the full school distribution for a full share (tv money, credits, CFP).

From a monetary standpoint, this new PAC conference is probably going to be sitting around 9-11 million at best so it wouldn’t make sense with exit fees and an extra $2 million annually in travel and such but I’m not gonna stop Memphis from doing dumb things so they can have at it.

 

[ZooCougar]

Right but I think the schools in question are getting full shares (except UTSA). I looked again last night I believe the speculation is $8-9 million is the full school distribution for a full share (tv money, credits, CFP).

From a monetary standpoint, this new PAC conference is probably going to be sitting around 9-11 million at best so it wouldn’t make sense with exit fees and an extra $2 million annually in travel and such but I’m not gonna stop Memphis from doing dumb things so they can have at it.

It’s not 8-9 million even for a full.

Plus the have to pay for ESPN+ productions.

That’s why when we played Rice last season it looked like Public Access Cable level production.

 

[Ha Who]

Nope. Many of them don't even get full shares too.

Do they still have to pay TV production costs?

 

[ZooCougar]

Do they still have to pay TV production costs?

Do you really think ESPN decided to start paying for that with that group of skank schools?

It’s like what AD Dave said when we seceded from the AAC. “When is $7M a year not $7M a year?”

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Urcea]

Have to wonder if the AAC is going to launch a raid now

 

[huskymedic]

Add UTSA to the list:

 

[Exit 4]

This outcome is not surprising given the three cons here: i) not a substantive increase in media revenue, ii) the substantial exit fees and iii) the increased travel.

But its still possible these AAC schools end up in this new fangled P12 at some point in the future should the new P12 have some success and when the AAC exit fees begin to wind down. That point in time might even be just a few years from now....depends on what traction the new P12 really can establish.

Plus, USF, Memphis & Tulane all still see themselves as having some sort of chance with the B12 and/or ACC in the years ahead.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[WrenchFan69]

Have to wonder if the AAC is going to launch a raid now

I don't think any of the remaining MWC schools move the needle for them outside Air Force.

 

[CL82]

I would take a football only deal with the PAC 12, if offered. Since football is considered to be 80% of what media distribution deals are worth, 80% of 10 to 15,000,000 would equate to eight to $12 million for football. That would certainly help in making ends meet.

Not that I expect to get the offer

 

[WrenchFan69]

WOW

 

[Urcea]

I don't think any of the remaining MWC schools move the needle for them outside Air Force.

Might as well try to grab UNLV along with Air Force to build out a western flank + expand into a huge market

 

[Urcea]

WOW

Key tweet!

 

[BlueHen]

I would take a football only deal with the PAC 12, if offered. Since football is considered to be 80% of what media distribution deals are worth, 80% of 10 to 15,000,000 would equate to eight to $12 million for football. That would certainly help in making ends meet.

Not that I expect to get the offer

Not the worst idea, especially if the conference only has 8 members. Obligated to only 7 league games per year (so only 3.5 trips west a year) and the freedom to schedule the other 5 games as we see fit.

I don't expect to get the offer either, but if they call, I'm answering.

 

[WrenchFan69]

Wow. Tough day for the PAC