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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

ScottVib said:
Even the rumored 10-11 million is a 50% increase on the new Big East deal.

The last statement is partially correct. The colleges don’t want UConn, the people running the league clearly do. They’ve failed to make their case (again).
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For openers, if we had received the offer from the B-12 that had been leaked I would have been fully behind making the move.

If we did move, we would have joined for basketball (and other sports) for the 26-27 academic/athletic year and remained independent in football until 2031 (five years as a partial member). By all reports our exit fee from the BE would be $15 million and our revenue increase from the B-12 roughly $3 million per year.

Please walk me through how there would have been any material economic gain from the move over the five year stretch.

Again, I have be all for putting a far greater effort into building the football program from before we hired Jim Calhoun to run our men's basketball program. I also don't see how it would be impossible for us to build a quality program, considering some schools have somehow overcome decades of futility yet were able to find a way.
 
Patman said:
well until some of you are willing to drop down all kinds of money on the program, OL to OC is going to be what you get. We don't have the money to do otherwise.
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I drop my fair share of money into the collectives and my father had been a donor since the 80s and he was a part time medical consultant for the Men's basketball team. Is it T. Boone Pickens money? No. I think this is besides the point, though.

I understand there budget constraints, which is why they tried the horribly desperate hire of Edsall 2.0. Mora is starting to look like that, but let's give him the year and see if he can turn things around.

UConn has to do 1 of these 2 things:
1) UConn has to push for more funding, maybe from the state legislature, to get more positional coaches and staff needed to improve recruiting and the roster. Make the investment in football and it will payoff.

2) But if the budget constraints are rigid and they cannot get more funding (#1 above), then they need to hire better coaches, perhaps from the FCS level that have shown they are program builders and have a history producing good offenses. Proven offensive innovative FCS coaches would be cheaper and are better than older retreads anyways.

There are teams with less money, paying their coaches less, and don't have nearly the branding of UConn that are doing far more with less such as North Dakota St, Appalachian State, lots of Sun Belt teams, and I am sure there are more G5 teams I am sure I am leaving out.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Nope. You are wrong. I was mildly in favor of the Big 12 unless it was basketball only or flat revenue. It turned out it was on both counts, and the networks still didn’t want us.
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You have zero idea what revenues were being discussed.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Please walk me through how there would have been any material economic gain from the move over the five year stretch
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The number I saw talked about for the big 12 was 15 M for us. That's less than a half share. That would make an increase of 9 million a year, actually probably more, but that's a convenient number, so that our $15 million exit fee would've been been paid in two years.

Keep in mind that that doesn't take into account the potential receipt of college football playoff money, a full share of which would be worth $15 million on its own. Granted we certainly wouldn't be entitled to that prior to 2031, but we would be on a path to attain it.
 
ZooCougar said:
If this is true then Benedict fumbled bad. Hopefully it’s not or wildly blown out of proportion. If not. This is very bad. Like go find a new job bad.
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JMick said:
This reads like smear campaign type stuff. We have done this presentation how many times now? The last time we saw the leaked presentations it was clearly the best one.
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Yeah… he’s farming.

 
huskymedic said:
Yeah… he’s farming.

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Feels like someone at the Big 12 is fishing for a response from UConn that will start a pissing war. I suspect that whoever was the source on this quote is being smoked out on the Big 12 side because it is a very bad look for the league and insulting to Yormark.

Whoever is the source of that quote is publicly slapping Yormark in the face. Not someplace anyone in the Big 12 wants to be right now.

Edit: or Reinhart made up the whole story.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Feels like someone at the Big 12 is fishing for a response from UConn that will start a pissing war. I suspect that whoever was the source on this quote is being smoked out on the Big 12 side because it is a very bad look for the league and insulting to Yormark.

Whoever is the source of that quote is publicly slapping Yormark in the face. Not someplace anyone in the Big 12 wants to be right now.

Edit: or Reinhart made up the whole story.
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Same guy that tweeted Hurley to LA is a done deal ‘per a source’
 
The state legislature is not going to earmark money for the athletic department. With tuition at Uconn going up every year- there would be huge public outcry and would actually have the opposite effect of trying to boost Uconn athletics.
 
That’s made up nonsense. No chance any of that happened. We have no attendance issue with basketball, no chance we produced crappy, error ridden materials and no chance our academics were an issue. We’d be the best academic institution in the B12.

It’s really ridiculous info and totally bogus.
 
Skiblets said:
Same guy that tweeted Hurley to LA is a done deal ‘per a source’
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Alright so I looked into it more and he's not a real person. They're flying a little close to the sun though. Reporting a bogus trade is one thing. This is getting into sketchier territory
 
Hoophound said:
That’s made up nonsense. No chance any of that happened. We have no attendance issue with basketball, no chance we produced crappy, error ridden materials and no chance our academics were an issue. We’d be the best academic institution in the B12.

It’s really ridiculous info and totally bogus.
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And there is no way that any AD staffer would ever give Reinhart that quote, even on background. If that person was ever caught, his career in sports management would be over. Reinhart made it up.
 
CL82 said:
Yeah, I wasn't really excited about the Sammis promotion. I'm just not sure how much of that is budget related and how much of that is the notion that we aren't a good job. I suppose either way it could be fixed with money.
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Timing? Giving the guy a chance?
 
CL82 said:
The number I saw talked about for the big 12 was 15 M for us. That's less than a half share. That would make an increase of 9 million a year, actually probably more, but that's a convenient number, so that our $15 million exit fee would've been been paid in two years.

Keep in mind that that doesn't take into account the potential receipt of college football playoff money, a full share of which would be worth $15 million on its own. Granted we certainly wouldn't be entitled to that prior to 2031, but we would be on a path to attain it.
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Show me where the $15mm was a firm number. All I saw were a handful of wild ass guesses on what we would receive.

The figure I used in my example was the figure from the post I quoted.

One significant reason that I am not currently on the ledge many from this site are currently occupying is that I did not view this round as make or break for our programs. If we improve football we will be fine. If we don't, we won't. Spending the next half dozen years under our current situation is not materially different than if we received the partial B-12 invitation.
 
I agree have to be half way decent in football in a few years. Basketball will be fine in the BE for now. But we had 5 years to fix football and that should still be the plan.
 
CL82 said:
The number I saw talked about for the big 12 was 15 M for us. That's less than a half share. That would make an increase of 9 million a year, actually probably more, but that's a convenient number, so that our $15 million exit fee would've been been paid in two years.

Keep in mind that that doesn't take into account the potential receipt of college football playoff money, a full share of which would be worth $15 million on its own. Granted we certainly wouldn't be entitled to that prior to 2031, but we would be on a path to attain it.
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Also, the report was that we'd get 4 football games a year against Big XII teams, which would completely change our schedule as an independent, would help recruiting and would likely have increased home attendance. If it was $15m and 4 games that easily makes financial sense.
 
JMick said:
I don't know if we're going to have a choice. When revenue sharing kicks in we will have to put all of that towards basketball. How will we compete in football without real dollars coming in from a conference and CFP money?
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Nobody has answered this.
 
The bottom line is that UConn needs to increase investment in football. The key question is how? My suggestions:

1) Reallocate expenses in the athletic department towards football.

2) Appoint a group to focus on raising money for football.
 
JohnFSilver said:
If they cut football they are gonna halve the athletic department budget and it will affect basketball, tremendously.

How many ncaa champions last 50 years didn’t play football?

Outside of Villanova and UConn (1999) no other program that isn’t in top tier football has won since 1984.
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UConn technically has football but it certainly has brought zero success to our basketball program. You can say the same for Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, Nova, UNC. The overwhelming majority of basketball national championships are won by the basketball schools.
 

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