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ACC will surviveBetween this and the UNC BoT comments. The ACC is falling.
ACC will surviveBetween this and the UNC BoT comments. The ACC is falling.
The ACC has been done for a while now. It's why I don't understand people wanting to join unless it can grab some Big XII schools and Big East schools.Between this and the UNC BoT comments. The ACC is falling.
The Calford + SMU additions didn’t move the needle in football. The article even mentions that it was more about academics than sports.“This is the best basketball conference, historically, in the country,” Phillips says. “I do not want to downgrade basketball. But at the end of the day, our future will be tied to football success, football revenues, tied to TV.
That doesn't sound good for UConn. Back to hoping for a Big 12 invite.
Not if there's no one left lol how don't you people get thisBecause even a rump ACC is bette than the BE (from a brand, money, school profile perspective)
"I do not want to downgrade basketball" means basketball is meaningless in conference realignment! If their future is tied to football success, then the ACC is truly done. Once FSU and Clemson leave, their flagship football programs are gone. Cal Stanford and SMU cannot fill that void. Unfortunately, ACC leadership has shown that they do not respect UConn and I don't think that will change. The statement about basketball does indeed reitierate that stance. I would say forget about the Big 12 as well.“This is the best basketball conference, historically, in the country,” Phillips says. “I do not want to downgrade basketball. But at the end of the day, our future will be tied to football success, football revenues, tied to TV.
That doesn't sound good for UConn. Back to hoping for a Big 12 invite.
Cal and Stanford were admitted to the ACC because more than a couple presidents of ACC schools are graduates of those schools and pushed for them to be admitted. Any statements by the ACC about academics are totally bogus and no more than a smokescreen. Remember Louisville?The Calford + SMU additions didn’t move the needle in football. The article even mentions that it was more about academics than sports.
Nothing ever sounds good for UConn but glass half full, it could be good. Let's assume no one is leaving the Big 12. There is no one out there that helps the ACC in any meaningful way from a football standpoint. There are some very solid G5 programs but none that help revenues. Basketball, you have UConn which immediately improves the conference. Take any win you can get. And if the ACC did just a little research, it would realize that having UConn Football in the fold would probably benefit its old Big East rivals. Bring in UConn and USF to start.“This is the best basketball conference, historically, in the country,” Phillips says. “I do not want to downgrade basketball. But at the end of the day, our future will be tied to football success, football revenues, tied to TV.
That doesn't sound good for UConn. Back to hoping for a Big 12 invite.
Coach K suggests an ACC-Big East Merger here.
Yes. He said "I do not want to downgrade basketball"....but he will."I do not want to downgrade basketball" means basketball is meaningless in conference realignment! If their future is tied to football success, then the ACC is truly done. Once FSU and Clemson leave, their flagship football programs are gone. Cal Stanford and SMU cannot fill that void. Unfortunately, ACC leadership has shown that they do not respect UConn and I don't think that will change. The statement about basketball does indeed reitierate that stance. I would say forget about the Big 12 as well.
Coach K is retired. I don't think what he says now means anything to the ACC.Since Coach K's quote is at the very end of the article:
"We have a conference that in a lot of ways wants to split,” he says. “I’d like to see us talk to the Big East and say, ‘Let’s form the best football-basketball conference.’ Not everyone has to play football. There’s only one conference that thinks about basketball every day of the year—that’s [commissioner] Val Ackerman and the Big East. If you’re a partner with them, that’s a really good thing.”
"I do not want to downgrade basketball" means basketball is meaningless in conference realignment! If their future is tied to football success, then the ACC is truly done. Once FSU and Clemson leave, their flagship football programs are gone. Cal Stanford and SMU cannot fill that void. Unfortunately, ACC leadership has shown that they do not respect UConn and I don't think that will change. The statement about basketball does indeed reitierate that stance. I would say forget about the Big 12 as well.
Yes. He said "I do not want to downgrade basketball"....but he will.
The ACC hasn't been the best basketball conference in a long time as they diluted the conference through expansion, the retirement of HOF coaches, and poor coaching hires. And, look at the head coaches. I would say the SEC, B12, and BE have a better roster of coaches.“This is the best basketball conference, historically, in the country,” Phillips says. “I do not want to downgrade basketball. But at the end of the day, our future will be tied to football success, football revenues, tied to TV.
That doesn't sound good for UConn. Back to hoping for a Big 12 invite.
Coach K suggests an ACC-Big East Merger here.
I tend to agree because the ACC is the George Costanza of power conferences. It does the opposite. It can't get out of its own way. But to Duke, Coach K is the be-all and end-all.Coach K is retired. I don't think what he says now means anything to the ACC.
Would that make a big 12 the Lloyd Braun of power conferences?I tend to agree because the ACC is the George Costanza of power conferences.
The Lloyd Christmas.Would that make a big 12 the Lloyd Braun of power conferences?
or even steven at leastWould that make a big 12 the Lloyd Braun of power conferences?
I don't think they have ever been the best conference. Their composition is always the same, two strong programs (Duke and UNC) a third good program (a rotating spot between UVA, Wake, NC State, FSU) and a bunch of blah. The media has always hyped the conference beyond its reality.The ACC hasn't been the best basketball conference in a long time as they diluted the conference through expansion, the retirement of HOF coaches, and poor coaching hires. And, look at the head coaches. I would say the SEC, B12, and BE have a better roster of coaches.
This is a major reason they need to add UConn.I don't think they have ever been the best conference. Their composition is always the same, two strong programs (Duke and UNC) a third good program (a rotating spot between UVA, Wake, NC State, FSU) and a bunch of blah. The media has always hyped the conference beyond its reality.
You forgot Maryland was in the ACC during their basketball heyday. At one point, the ACC was the top conference and when they took Louisville, Syracuse, and Pitt, it appeared that they would be again but all three programs have not been as successful in the ACC.I don't think they have ever been the best conference. Their composition is always the same, two strong programs (Duke and UNC) a third good program (a rotating spot between UVA, Wake, NC State, FSU) and a bunch of blah. The media has always hyped the conference beyond its reality.
They have shown that what they need to ends up in them doing something counterproductive. For a conference with some "smart" schools, they sure do some dumb@$$ crapThis is a major reason they need to add UConn.