Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Rufus]

SMU joins the ACC on July 1 because June 30 is the last day of a media rights year for The American (and most conferences).

The current PAC-12 media rights has a final date of August 1. Therefore, none of the PAC-12 schools can move until August 2.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Now that’s… strange.

It's inevitable

 

[dayooper]

Adding to the board room come this summer

I think it’s because that when the PAC’s official start of the 2024-2025 season. If they left earlier, they would technically be leaving before their current contract ends.

 

[billybud]

Well,,,sure...you can't expect Jim Phillips to know when contracts end...not even his conference"s.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

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Looks like Benedict is stuck in storrs with us!

 

[How Sway?!]

Seems like there are three options here for ESPN.
1) battle it out in court to keep the current deal and never fold.
2) use the pending 2025 lookin as a means to amend the deal with an incentive laden extension that somehow steers more money to the ACC top dogs (the ACC would need to agree) and brings them closer or above the B12 (but well short of the SEC and B1G).
3) work with the ACC on a settlement formula to let schools walk and see what happens.

I wonder if #2 would be the cheapest....but it will never be enough to close the gap for FSU, Clemson or UNC.

Pretty sure th ACC already makes more than the B12 due to the ACC network

 

[CashewCrew]

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Looks like Benedict is stuck in storrs with us!

I know this is the boneyard and I'm biased but I'd take his $1M salary (or just shy of it) living in CT with all the success the AD has had over living in Tempe making $1.2M or whatever their best offer might have been. ASU athletics are so mid.

 

[Patman]

I know this is the boneyard and I'm biased but I'd take his $1M salary (or just shy of it) living in CT with all the success the AD has had over living in Tempe making $1.2M or whatever their best offer might have been. ASU athletics are so mid.

well, stable job and stable living might beat out home but an unstable future

 

[Bongo Fury]

Which one is stable? ASU is home, right?

 

[speckle]

B

Of note, Fluguar believes all but Miami are the target of SEC and/or B1G expansion. And the SEC's desires might be as much about blocking the B1G as anything else. So can an ACC that loses 6 teams still operate? Maybe, but better hope the B12 doesn't get a green light to expand too.

12 has the most to gain relatively with programs like Miami, NCSt, VT and GT likely becoming available. They'll definitely be involved.

 

[Greedo]

Which one is stable? ASU is home, right?

The basketball coach he hired just won back to back national championships. His job at UConn is very stable right now.

 

[UConnJim]

He literally scheduled us home and home recently.

UConn is not considered a G5 by some schools.

 

[JMick]

UConn is not considered a G5 by some schools.

Sure 10 years ago right off the split we weren't. Now we most definitely are.

 

[CL82]

Sure 10 years ago right off the split we weren't. Now we most definitely are.

Depends who you ask and for what purpose. I think what he was referencing was the fact that the Big Ten either prohibits or discourages scheduling G5 opponents for conference members, but for the purposes of the application of that rule they consider Connecticut to be a "power school."

On the other hand, in last summers flirtation with the big 12 we heard that conference members preferred to add power schools to the conference and that's why Connecticut was not chosen.

 

[ZooCougar]

UConn is not considered a G5 by some schools.

Just for scheduling purposes.

 

[ZooCougar]

Sure 10 years ago right off the split we weren't. Now we most definitely are.

Some conferences don’t consider UConn G5 for scheduling purposes but we definitely are.

 

[Ha Who]

Big Ten 'Strongly Considering' Removing Nonconference Power 5 Schedule Requirement

Check out Brett McMurphy's report on the Big Ten "strongly considering" removing its nonconference Power Five schedule requirement.

www.actionnetwork.com

 

[JMick]

Depends who you ask and for what purpose. I think what he was referencing was the fact that the Big Ten either prohibits or discourages scheduling G5 opponents for conference members, but for the purposes of the application of that rule they consider Connecticut to be a "power school."

Right but that's a policy from 10 years ago

 

[CL82]

Right but that's a policy from 10 years ago

Still in place though. But, here's the thing, there's a basis for saying there's a perception of our program as being something different than a G5 program. Ultimately, we just need to back that up on the field.

 

[CL82]

Big Ten 'Strongly Considering' Removing Nonconference Power 5 Schedule Requirement

Check out Brett McMurphy's report on the Big Ten "strongly considering" removing its nonconference Power Five schedule requirement.

www.actionnetwork.com

Besides teams from the other Power 5 leagues – ACC, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC – plus Notre Dame, several non-Power 5 programs counted toward the Power 5 requirement. That includes the three service academy schools — Army, Navy and Air Force — along with BYU, Cincinnati, UConn and others.

 

[speckle]

Big Ten 'Strongly Considering' Removing Nonconference Power 5 Schedule Requirement

Check out Brett McMurphy's report on the Big Ten "strongly considering" removing its nonconference Power Five schedule requirement.

www.actionnetwork.com

G5 doesn't exist anymore so why would they require it? I don't schedule time for my dvd player.

 

[billybud]

 

[Jimdish255]

May have been previously posted but the lawsuit was brought by this attorney who is a Duke Grad and decidedly against UNC or any teams getting out of their media rights contract and leaving the ACC. In the short run he can probably complicate matters for UNC but once the dam is breached all the FOI's and public disclosure requests aren't going to stop UNC. IMO.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

May have been previously posted but the lawsuit was brought by this attorney who is a Duke Grad and decidedly against UNC or any teams getting out of their media rights contract and leaving the ACC. In the short run he can probably complicate matters for UNC but once the dam is breached all the FOI's and public disclosure requests aren't going to stop UNC. IMO.

This guy said it a lot more clearly than my selling a house example a couple of pages back. The rights are sold with a Grant of Rights. It is really hard to un-sell them.

Where the Clemson and FSU cases have a sliver of light is around the fact that A) they don't have the actual contract, which may be a statutory violation, and B) the agreement was potentially changed or violated by the ACC at some point. Either could theoretically release members from the GOR, but it is an uphill battle. The difficulty in accessing the agreement by the members in particular makes the FSU and Clemson cases very strange.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I have seen quite a few posts claiming that the ACC will either be dead or well behind the B-12 once this situation unfolds. Personally I believe that this take is quite an overreaction.

For the sake of argument, let's assume that in the near future an agreement is reached where getting out of the GOR is a negligle amount of money. With that, there is still a very substantial (and enforceable) exit fee, which will make departing from the conference prohibitive unless the result is a spot in the B1G or SEC. I imagine that at most four current ACC schools can make this move (FSU & Clemson are the clear candidates, likey UNC and perhaps UVA as they do have some gravitas and prestige).

At that point, will there really be much difference in market power & brands when comparing the B-12 and the ACC? The idea of a current ACC school paying a nine figure departure fee to join at best a marginally better, slighty higher compensated conference seems implausible to me. Yes, there will be further separation between the P-2 and the next two (ACC. B-12) but there won't be a material amount of difference between the two next two conferences.