Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[CL82]

ACC will survive

The PAC "survived."

Sort of.

 

[AllHusky]

Have been a student of realignment since 1981. Have understood the variables behind the decision making process until recently. Didn't always agree with the decisions, but saw the logic used(see Rutgers and BC). I cannot see what the heck some of these folks are thinking about any more. Nothing screams panic more that the Calford SMU add to the ACC. Yormark had the right idea with UConn, but knuckled under to some of the midwest schools. Somehow I believe we are going to end up OK, but for the life of me don't know how or why. Maybe have a bad case of CR Rule #1, similar to Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[Kolumbo]

Coach K is retired. I don't think what he says now means anything to the ACC.

I tend to agree because the ACC is the George Costanza of power conferences. It does the opposite. It can't get out of its own way. But to Duke, Coach K is the be-all and end-all.

 

[CL82]

I tend to agree because the ACC is the George Costanza of power conferences.

Would that make a big 12 the Lloyd Braun of power conferences?

 

[noeynox]

Would that make a big 12 the Lloyd Braun of power conferences?

The Lloyd Christmas.

 

[Kolumbo]

Would that make a big 12 the Lloyd Braun of power conferences?

or even steven at least

 

[MilliniumPrince]

The ACC hasn't been the best basketball conference in a long time as they diluted the conference through expansion, the retirement of HOF coaches, and poor coaching hires. And, look at the head coaches. I would say the SEC, B12, and BE have a better roster of coaches.

I don't think they have ever been the best conference. Their composition is always the same, two strong programs (Duke and UNC) a third good program (a rotating spot between UVA, Wake, NC State, FSU) and a bunch of blah. The media has always hyped the conference beyond its reality.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

I don't think they have ever been the best conference. Their composition is always the same, two strong programs (Duke and UNC) a third good program (a rotating spot between UVA, Wake, NC State, FSU) and a bunch of blah. The media has always hyped the conference beyond its reality.

This is a major reason they need to add UConn.

 

[UConnJim]

I don't think they have ever been the best conference. Their composition is always the same, two strong programs (Duke and UNC) a third good program (a rotating spot between UVA, Wake, NC State, FSU) and a bunch of blah. The media has always hyped the conference beyond its reality.

You forgot Maryland was in the ACC during their basketball heyday. At one point, the ACC was the top conference and when they took Louisville, Syracuse, and Pitt, it appeared that they would be again but all three programs have not been as successful in the ACC.

 

[KryHavok]

This is a major reason they need to add UConn.

They have shown that what they need to ends up in them doing something counterproductive. For a conference with some "smart" schools, they sure do some dumb@$$ crap

 

[huskymedic]

The recommendation is for $10 million a year through 2029-30. I'm guessing they want to end the Calimony in 2030 based on that? The Board of Regents still must vote on it.

UC president recommends UCLA pay Cal $10 million a year for leaving Pac-12

The president of the University of California system is recommending that UCLA pay Cal $10 million a year for leaving the Pac-12 for the Big Ten.

www.latimes.com

 

[huskymedic]

BOHICA:

 

[shizzle787]

BOHICA:

He literally scheduled us home and home recently.

 

[billybud]

Since Coach K's quote is at the very end of the article:

"We have a conference that in a lot of ways wants to split,” he says. “I’d like to see us talk to the Big East and say, ‘Let’s form the best football-basketball conference.’ Not everyone has to play football. There’s only one conference that thinks about basketball every day of the year—that’s [commissioner] Val Ackerman and the Big East. If you’re a partner with them, that’s a really good thing.”

Coach K is at the heart of the problems of the ACC today....he kept advocating the ACC as a basketball league as a major voice after it became clear that basketball was not where the money was,,,

 

[noeynox]

Coach K is at the heart of the problems of the ACC today....he kept advocating the ACC as a basketball league as a major voice after it became clear that basketball was not where the money was,,,

There was no move the ACC could have made that was gonna have the money anywhere to where it is headed for rhe B1G and SEC. Who knew Maryland had the smartest leadership of any school in the ACC. What you have now is a whole lot of whining from schools that had no problem cashing those ACC checks for years.

 

[Patman]

There was no move the ACC could have made that was gonna have the money anywhere to where it is headed for rhe B1G and SEC. Who knew Maryland had the smartest leadership of any school in the ACC. What you have now is a whole lot of whining from schools that had no problem cashing those ACC checks for years.

they don't like that all the big players moved into one conference and is now getting all the money. I'm sure they're pissed they missed the window to move and know the Big10 and SEC can knife them EVEN IF they take them in the first place.

 

[noeynox]

they don't like that all the big players moved into one conference and is now getting all the money. I'm sure they're pissed they missed the window to move and know the Big10 and SEC can knife them EVEN IF they take them in the first place.

Its all a bit much for me. No school has gotten as screwed in conference realignment as much as UConn. I don't go to the FSU or Clemson boards and inundate them with BS about how bad its been for UConn. Too busy celebrating national championships!

 

[MilliniumPrince]

You forgot Maryland was in the ACC during their basketball heyday. At one point, the ACC was the top conference and when they took Louisville, Syracuse, and Pitt, it appeared that they would be again but all three programs have not been as successful in the ACC.

Name a season when more than 3 of those teams was a real contender to win it all. Rarely happened. I am not counting names, I am counting contenders and conference strength. The ACC always rode UNC and Duke's coattails and benefited mightily from over inflated preseason rankings.

For all the talk of them being the best conference for decades, most of their titles were won by two programs. Syra, Pitt, Louisville, and ND haven't won a darn thing in that conference. Not one of them is currently relevant. Maryland was really good once a decade. That is not a strong conference. It is a conference with two great programs.

 

[billybud]

Maryland had a athletic department that was broke...a football team that was just OK...The B1G was a good move.

The ACC, with too many small private schools and an emphasis on basketball, was caught flatfooted in the massive money shift to football. The ACC payouts were more than the SEC's as late as 2000. And then everything turned upside down...It was football that brought home the bacon where previously it had been basketball.

The reverberations of that flip-flop are still echoing through the conference.

 

[billybud]

Georgia Tech has played in the Final since Syracuse last played in a Final..(GT lost to UConn). Syracuse won the NC in 2003 and then faded.

 

[uconnyankee]

Maryland had a athletic department that was broke...a football team that was just OK...The B1G was a good move.

The ACC, with too many small private schools and an emphasis on basketball, was caught flatfooted in the massive money shift to football. The ACC payouts were more than the SEC's as late as 2000. And then everything turned upside down...It was football that brought home the bacon where previously it had been basketball.

The reverberations of that flip-flop are still echoing through the conference.

ACC wasn’t caught flat footed. They were ahead of curve when they poached Big East.
The knew the game played by media partners.
Reality is there is little a conference can do if a higher ranked conference comes knocking and media partners have their checkbook.
ACC went the GOR route and now that is being tested…

If one was to look back and measure success of Miami, BC, VT, Syracuse, Pitt and Louisville you have to say ‘that didn’t quite work out’. Ironically, all but Miami are now considered dead weight in ACC. And Miami is only valued for success 30 years ago.

ACC is now Big East.

 

[billybud]

"ACC is now Big East."

True...but paid a bunch more.

Swofford summed it up well...way back..NY Times

“The world is a much different place now in that regard,” Swofford said. “For decades, as a conference, we made more headlines in basketball and more money in basketball, and there was nothing inherently wrong with that. Obviously, basketball remains a huge part of our success and identity today."

Financially speaking, as well, basketball ruled the ACC universe. Every single year, through its first five decades, when the ACC calculated and divided its shared revenue (money from TV contracts, the NCAA Tournament, the ACC Tournament, bowl games, etc.), basketball was paying the majority of the bills.

 

[huskymedic]

BOHICA:

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Now that’s… strange.

 

[John]

very interesting.