Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell. | Page 835 | The Boneyard

Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Joined
Sep 18, 2011
Messages
5,489
Reaction Score
22,906
Stanford and Cal had no interest in the Big 12. They didn't want to associate with lesser academic schools. If the B1G doesn't want them, the ACC is their only option.
If the ACC implodes and the left behinds media contract goes down, it kind of doesn't make sense to have the expense of traveling to California for the ACC schools.
 

nelsonmuntz

Point Center
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
44,820
Reaction Score
35,053
If the ACC implodes and the left behinds media contract goes down, it kind of doesn't make sense to have the expense of traveling to California for the ACC schools.

The economics of competing at different levels completely changed with the House case. More revenues may no longer mean more profits for an individual school.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
27,803
Reaction Score
38,575
It's a "depleted" Big12, too.

After TX and OK leave, who is the big brand/ratings draw in that conference? Which teams will be perennial contenders for a natty?

40-60% of college football is people watching 18 Programs.

The Big 12 no longer has any of those. And you can be pretty sure the ACC won’t either.
 

nelsonmuntz

Point Center
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
44,820
Reaction Score
35,053
40-60% of college football is people watching 18 Programs.

The Big 12 no longer has any of those. And you can be pretty sure the ACC won’t either.

You keep giving the same wrong take over and over. You should stick to Matlock or whatever else it is you watch, grandpa.
 
Joined
Mar 4, 2014
Messages
17,891
Reaction Score
24,573
It's a "depleted" Big12, too.

After TX and OK leave, who is the big brand/ratings draw in that conference? Which teams will be perennial contenders for a natty?
Big 12 got Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah. All AAU by the way.

No, Texas and Oklahoma cannot be replaced from a football standpoint but I think many are undervaluing the Corner 4 by a lot. Big 12 just picked up 33% of the PAC 12 which is not too shabby. And those Corner 4 will now be playing many games in Texas and Florida.
 
Joined
Sep 14, 2015
Messages
1,864
Reaction Score
6,076
You keep giving the same wrong take over and over. You should stick to Matlock or whatever else it is you watch, grandpa.
Ahhh...D-baggery at it's finest. Thought this was UConn fans discussing and debating in a civil manner. Just cause you are the smartest guy in the room doesn't mean you have to demean the rest of us lower beings.

Go Huskies!!
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
27,803
Reaction Score
38,575
Ahhh...D-baggery at it's finest. Thought this was UConn fans discussing and debating in a civil manner. Just cause you are the smartest guy in the room doesn't mean you have to demean the rest of us lower beings.

Go Huskies!!

If there was a Boneyard Hall of Shame he might be the unanimous first induction. It's all good.
 
Joined
Jul 3, 2019
Messages
567
Reaction Score
2,397
Big 12 got Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah. All AAU by the way.

No, Texas and Oklahoma cannot be replaced from a football standpoint but I think many are undervaluing the Corner 4 by a lot. Big 12 just picked up 33% of the PAC 12 which is not too shabby. And those Corner 4 will now be playing many games in Texas and Florida.
Yes, there is truth to that. Those were good additions, although obviously I would have rather seen UConn go. Definitely upgrades from the UCF/Cinci round of expansion.

But I still say, not good enough to draw teams from the ACC even after the ACC loses its top programs.

Of course, we are all just guessing here.
 

nelsonmuntz

Point Center
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
44,820
Reaction Score
35,053
Ahhh...D-baggery at it's finest. Thought this was UConn fans discussing and debating in a civil manner. Just cause you are the smartest guy in the room doesn't mean you have to demean the rest of us lower beings.

Go Huskies!!

It is more just me busting Zoo's stones. We can't stand each other, but I think some of the call back jokes between us are pretty funny.
 
Joined
Jan 17, 2013
Messages
2,849
Reaction Score
9,696
It's a "depleted" Big12, too.

After TX and OK leave, who is the big brand/ratings draw in that conference? Which teams will be perennial contenders for a natty?
It's not about nattys for the Big12; they really don't have any program that has that aspiration often or at all. It's about having a competitive conference that is well balanced without weaklings. That competitiveness top to bottom keeps people watching (and they do!); similar to the parity in the NFL where half or more of the teams are fighting for a playoff spot down to the last game or two of the season.
 
Joined
Jan 17, 2013
Messages
2,849
Reaction Score
9,696
For a while at least, any leftover schools are going to be sitting on a windfall of exit fees and GOR buyouts. That will probably create an economic incentive to stay in the ACC in the near term.
I hear you and it might be a big enough windfall but it also might not because if the player pay salary cap is set at 20-30m per year and the next 2-4 ACC brands after FSU/Clemson (e.g. UNC, Miami, etc.) might decide they want to leave as well; especially if ESPN lets their option go bye bye-bye and there is no GOR payment to worry about.
 

GG

Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
635
Reaction Score
2,942
Greg Flugar’s Peek Around the Corner discussed the SEC’s interest in Kansas if they go to 20 teams in the future. He also discussed the value of basketball increasing, on both the men’s and women’s side, and that it was “going to affect UCONN.” He went on to say he does not have time to talk about UCONN during his podcast. Not certain exactly what this means, but potentially something of interest.
 

CL82

NCAA Men’s Basketball National Champions - Again!
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
59,692
Reaction Score
223,789
Greg Flugar’s Peek Around the Corner discussed the SEC’s interest in Kansas if they go to 20 teams in the future. He also discussed the value of basketball increasing, on both the men’s and women’s side, and that it was “going to affect UCONN.” He went on to say he does not have time to talk about UCONN during his podcast. Not certain exactly what this means, but potentially something of interest.
Interested Ooo GIF by reactionseditor
 

Exit 4

This space for rent
Joined
Feb 3, 2012
Messages
10,631
Reaction Score
39,850
Greg Flugar’s Peek Around the Corner discussed the SEC’s interest in Kansas if they go to 20 teams in the future. He also discussed the value of basketball increasing, on both the men’s and women’s side, and that it was “going to affect UCONN.” He went on to say he does not have time to talk about UCONN during his podcast. Not certain exactly what this means, but potentially something of interest.
So two schools to the SEC; UConn and Kansas.... FSU & Clemson will have to wait. Sounds good.
 

Exit 4

This space for rent
Joined
Feb 3, 2012
Messages
10,631
Reaction Score
39,850
Not certain he meant that, but sounds good. Wish he provided a little more information. Greg has been extremely accurate in the past, so I would have liked to hear a little more.
I don't think he did either.

But didn't have time? It would take 1 minute to summarize whatever he had to share, thing is he'd rather save it for another "show."

UConn is at the peak of its value this summer. Hopefully something happens.
 

GG

Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
635
Reaction Score
2,942
I don't think he did either.

But didn't have time? It would take 1 minute to summarize whatever he had to share, thing is he'd rather save it for another "show."

UConn is at the peak of its value this summer. Hopefully something happens.
Yeah, his focus was on KU. I cannot help but think it has something to do with the big 12, but obviously I do not know for certain. I cannot see either the Big 10 or the SEC having any interest in us whatsoever. Basically he saying the ACC will fall apart, so I don’t see why we would want to be part of that. Now that the SEC commissioner is saying basketball will be a money maker, people are listening (as opposed to when Yormark was saying that last year).
 
Joined
Sep 14, 2015
Messages
1,864
Reaction Score
6,076
Yeah, his focus was on KU. I cannot help but think it has something to do with the big 12, but obviously I do not know for certain. I cannot see either the Big 10 or the SEC having any interest in us whatsoever. Basically he saying the ACC will fall apart, so I don’t see why we would want to be part of that. Now that the SEC commissioner is saying basketball will be a money maker, people are listening (as opposed to when Yormark was saying that last year).
I assume this is inferring that the P3-4 are going to take over the Basketball tournament like Football, excluding or severely limiting non P?2-3 Conference access. Does the NCAA realize any revenue from CFP??

"Big Ten and SEC 29% of the upcoming contract, sources told CBS Sports, which works out to approximately $22 million per school. The ACC will receive 17% ($13-14 million per school) and the Big 12 will sit around 15% ($12 million per school).Mar 15, 2024"

I know this has been discussed, where do you think we are timewise in relation to this possible outcome?
 

GG

Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
635
Reaction Score
2,942
I assume this is inferring that the P3-4 are going to take over the Basketball tournament like Football, excluding or severely limiting non P?2-3 Conference access. Does the NCAA realize any revenue from CFP??

"Big Ten and SEC 29% of the upcoming contract, sources told CBS Sports, which works out to approximately $22 million per school. The ACC will receive 17% ($13-14 million per school) and the Big 12 will sit around 15% ($12 million per school).Mar 15, 2024"

I know this has been discussed, where do you think we are timewise in relation to this possible outcome?
I am not certain. Looks like I am going to have to start listening to Peak Around the Corner.
 

Online statistics

Members online
397
Guests online
2,620
Total visitors
3,017

Forum statistics

Threads
160,661
Messages
4,237,818
Members
10,091
Latest member
wrocki01


.
Top Bottom