Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Patman]

in other words, some private entity wants to be paid money and have it be sanctioned by congress. we usually call this a "cabal"

 

[FfldCntyFan]

in other words, some private entity wants to be paid money and have it be sanctioned by congress. we usually call this a "cabal"

They also appear to want the benefits that employees receive without the costs or drawbacks of being employees.

 

[How Sway?!]

The Big East does wonders for the football program. Super competitive.

Yeah the BE is stoping the football team from getting multiple P4 transfers

Oh wait...

 

[UConnJim]

It’s the Syracuse board. They also think they are New York City’s team. Plus I don’t think they’ve ever won it. Probably colors their view. I also concede it ain’t the same in Washington. But in Greensboro it is a basketball junky’s dream. Everybody from your Uber driver to the waitress in the place you eat between sessions is talking ACC basketball.

Wow. Have you ever been to Greensboro? There is not much near the arena and many people tailgate in the parking lot. It is a completely different environment compared to the Big East Tournament. My Syracuse friends would love for Syracuse to be in the Big East to go back to MSG.

 

[freescooter]

Disagree…. Big East had a great tourney this year.
I think there is a solid core of coaches that will get this league back to a solid 4-5 teams every year and 5-6 in some.

The league this year should have had 4 teams possibly 5.

It just can’t be UConn and the seven dwarfs. Another team has to step up and challenge UConn.

I agree but I don’t see it happening. I mean, it isn’t like we haven’t seen this movie before. The leading man has changed but the dwarfs are still the dwarfs. Who stepped up to challenge Villanova? Nobody.

 

[freescooter]

Wow. Have you ever been to Greensboro? There is not much near the arena and many people tailgate in the parking lot. It is a completely different environment compared to the Big East Tournament. My Syracuse friends would love for Syracuse to be in the Big East to go back to MSG.

I have and it is nothing but ACC basketball. As I said from the Uber driver to the waitress to the person who checks you in at your hotel, they all talk nothing but ACC hoop. At the MSG nobody knows or cares outside the arena.

Maybe if your Syracuse friends team made it to the Finals, which they never did, they’d have a different view. Plus it is in North Carolina so it is much less convenient. Yeah, and I don’t believe it for a minute that they want to rejoin the NOOB. They want the original Big East, not the current “new” edition. Of course they had a major hand in wrecking the original.

 

[freescooter]

Never won. I’m not a fan but come on. Don’t you spit stuff out because it sounds good.

Big East Tournament Champions, by Year | Coaches Database

List of Big East Tournament champions in men's basketball - clickable links to individual team and head coach pages for each year's winner.

www.coachesdatabase.com

I meant they like the Big East tourney because they won it 7 times. They don’t like the ACC because they never made the finals.

 

[HuskyHawk]

You're comparing Kansas City to New York City.

Yes, and I like Kansas City and hate NYC. But that’s not the point. The point is that in a smaller city the tournament commands more attention and dominates the bars and restaurants in a way it can’t in NYC, Chicago or LA.

 

[superjohn]

Yes, and I like Kansas City and hate NYC. But that’s not the point. The point is that in a smaller city the tournament commands more attention and dominates the bars and restaurants in a way it can’t in NYC, Chicago or LA.

Sure because there's not much going on in Kansas City and there's 16 times less people there than in NYC. The Big East tournament atmosphere is way better than the Big 12, Big 10, and ACC tournaments.

 

[The Yakk]

Speculation re: anything to do with the ACC is risky. When FSU and Clemson get out, watch for an attempted mass exodus by the rest of the so called magnificent 7.

Where exactly are they all going to go? There are 7 open spots in the P2? Assuming Notre Dame isn't interested?

Skimmed the rest, couldn't make sense of it. Seems like a word salad of conventional wisdom and wishful thinking.

 

[uconnyankee]

They also appear to want the benefits that employees receive without the costs or drawbacks of being employees.

It’s a complete free for all currently. Why would students want this to change?

 

[uconnyankee]

Where exactly are they all going to go? There are 7 open spots in the P2? Assuming Notre Dame isn't interested?

Skimmed the rest, couldn't make sense of it. Seems like a word salad of conventional wisdom and wishful thinking.

Agree. Not sure everyone has a spot outside ACC.
And assuming those schools do leave it would likely give ACC a war chest of funds.

ACC could be in a good position if it gets its crap together.

 

[CL82]

Yes, and I like Kansas City and hate NYC. But that’s not the point. The point is that in a smaller city the tournament commands more attention and dominates the bars and restaurants in a way it can’t in NYC, Chicago or LA.

Every train I've taken into NYC for the BET, And every bar I've gone into is dominated by Big East fans, all fired up for the tournament and all talking back-and-forth. Now, if you're saying that in the city of nearly 9,000,000 people, there are many non-fans, then in a city of a half million, I'm sure you're right, but pretty much none of them are hanging out in the bars around MSG.

 

[CJasmer]

Every train I've taken into NYC for the BET, And every bar I've gone into is dominated by Big East fans, all fired up for the tournament and all talking back-and-forth. Now, if you're saying that in the city of nearly 9,000,000 people, there are many non-fans, then in a city of a half million, I'm sure you're right, but pretty much none of them are hanging out in the bars around MSG.

Madison Garden holds 20,000 people. Maybe you could have 40,000 or so people interested in BET out of 9 million. So interest is only in the handful of bars around Madison Square Garden. For example I was in town for the Super Bowl when it was held at Giants Stadium. You could not go anywhere in the city without someone talking about the Suoerbowl. NYC is a professional sports town.

 

[ZooCougar]

Yes, and I like Kansas City and hate NYC. But that’s not the point. The point is that in a smaller city the tournament commands more attention and dominates the bars and restaurants in a way it can’t in NYC, Chicago or LA.

A big fish in a small pond is the same size as a big fish in a big pond.

The Big 12's Tournament is neither special or noteworthy. We'd be giving up something letting the BET go. If we can't play in a tournament in NYC then at least be on the east coast.

 

[CJasmer]

A big fish in a small pond is the same size as a big fish in a big pond.

The Big 12's Tournament is neither special or noteworthy. We'd be giving up something letting the BET go. If we can't play in a tournament in NYC then at least be on the east coast.

I think best situation is we stay big time in Basketball both men’s and women’s. That is where UConn will have the most success by extracting more money from NCAA basketball tournament. Football will be a lost cause since not enough interest in New England. But again UConn can be a top team in basketball.

 

[CL82]

A big fish in a small pond is the same size as a big fish in a big pond.

The Big 12's Tournament is neither special or noteworthy. We'd be giving up something letting the BET go. If we can't play in a tournament in NYC then at least be on the east coast.

I'm inclined to agree, but if any power conference offers us, we say yes before they finish the sentence.

 

[HuskyHawk]

A big fish in a small pond is the same size as a big fish in a big pond.

The Big 12's Tournament is neither special or noteworthy. We'd be giving up something letting the BET go. If we can't play in a tournament in NYC then at least be on the east coast.

I think the ACC is our best bet going forward. BET is fine, I'm not complaining about it. I do think saturation matters, the percentage of people interested in college sports of a particular conference. Before the defections the Big East had better saturation than it does now. Big XII doesn't have it anymore with the programs that left. ACC more or less still has it in North Carolina, for now. SEC has pretty good saturation across most of the south.

 

[CJasmer]

I think the ACC is our best bet going forward. BET is fine, I'm not complaining about it. I do think saturation matters, the percentage of people interested in college sports of a particular conference. Before the defections the Big East had better saturation than it does now. Big XII doesn't have it anymore with the programs that left. ACC more or less still has it in North Carolina, for now. SEC has pretty good saturation across most of the south.

I agree. Once FSU and Clemson leave the focus of the conference will be basketball. That is a perfect fit for UConn. SEC will always be football focus and in my opinion not a good fit for UConn.

 

[ZooCougar]

I think best situation is we stay big time in Basketball both men’s and women’s. That is where UConn will have the most success by extracting more money from NCAA basketball tournament. Football will be a lost cause since not enough interest in New England. But again UConn can be a top team in basketball.

We should still fight to grow the program. But the G5 taking steps to have something more substantial to compete for is positive.

The way things are now, you have 1 Champion and 133 failures. It's silly.

 

[ZooCougar]

I'm inclined to agree, but if any power conference offers us, we say yes before they finish the sentence.

The ACC is a better option. I think I just threw up.

 

[CL82]

The ACC is a better option.

Probably, it depends on what's left and what the media deal is.

 

[Sea Goat]

Where exactly are they all going to go? There are 7 open spots in the P2? Assuming Notre Dame isn't interested?

Skimmed the rest, couldn't make sense of it. Seems like a word salad of conventional wisdom and wishful thinking.

That's why I said "attempted mass exodus". You're right - there are not enough seats at the table outside the ACC for the 7 to be accommodated. It will be like a scene out of Casablanca at Rick's Cafe Americain. There will be a lot of intrigue and skulduggery by the remnants of the ACC to get letters of transit to a P-2 conference headquartered in Lisbon... (Sorry about the Casablanca reference, but somehow I picture the Syracuse AD being a dead ringer for Peter Lorre.)

 

[hank970]

Sure because there's not much going on in Kansas City and there's 16 times less people there than in NYC. The Big East tournament atmosphere is way better than the Big 12, Big 10, and ACC tournaments.

Yes, because the world is flat, and there's a danger of falling off the edge just west of the Hudson River.

 

[JMick]

The ACC is a better option. I think I just threw up.

It depends how many more teams the Big XII would take. If I'm the Big XII I want to get as many big state schools as I can from the leftover ACC to try and position myself as P3. Let the state legislators get all pissy at the idea of being left out of the top and let them be the conferences shield.