Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[AZHuskiePop]

That is not the whole story. The NCAA Tournament pays for all other sports championships and many other things that benefit all of the schools. The CFP pays for nothing so more money is distributed to the schools. Now that football is a huge moneymaker through the CFP, having the NCAAT subsidize everything the NCAA does seems outdated, but I highly doubt it is going to change.

Many people think the NCAAT media rights are undervalued by the NCAA as they like having the LT media contract which is the same mistake the ACC has made. And one thing that is clear is that the NCAA women's tournament media rights are undervalued and I really can't figure out how the NCAA let that happen.

Mainly by the growth of the women’s tournament j ESPN agreed to a 5 year deal that was $35million to $115Million
That includes over 30 D1 championships ,NIT, and Overseas rights to the men’s tournament .
Since experts estimated the women’s tourney was worth that much alone it was a little disappointing.
I believe that each NCAA unit could be increased to $1million plus
That would take a pool of about $600million
and be a game changer for UConn’s Worth
A run like last year would been worth $30 million to a conference

 

[ScottVib]

last year's NCAA Units were worth around $2M each. The women's tournament does not have a unit system (It was valued at $65M in the new rights deal; most projections had said it could be worth 80-110M alone; which might have lead to women's units existing).

 

[ZooCougar]

Could fill the map nicely for the ACC remnants. Just keep what they have started going.

ACC remnants plus plus JMU and Delaware would be interesting.

 

[Sea Goat]

Well, I am no fan of the NCAA. And don’t you realize this arrangement kills the power basketball schools? and there is no single greater victim in this arrangement than UConn. If the basketball schools kept more the of the tv revenue, they would be much more lucrative and thereby more attractive. If the bball schools kept +/- 90% of the NCAA tournament revenue , UConn would be in a power league tomorrow.

Even Jay Bilas believes BB can break away ala CFP. UConn can be a major player in such a move. It remains farcical that UConn bumps along financially while the likes of Syracuse, BFC get $30mm per year. ( Rutgers getting $65mm is beyond farcical!).
With the ACC blowing up, we'll find some allies to take over March Madness - like UNC, Duke. It's not crazy and if football did it, BB can too!

 

[Duncan Idaho]

where does uconn fall on this list?

The last number I saw was 6.5MM in the student fee subsidy. It had been as high as 8.8MM a few years ago IIRC.

 

[Drew]

In case you were wondering why the thought exists that we don’t take football seriously:

 

[noeynox]

How much do we spend on football?

 

[Kolumbo]

In case you were wondering why the thought exists that we don’t take football seriously:

It's the chicken and the egg. All those other public U's spending more on football are in power conferences so they can easily afford to spend more, even if they don't get results.

 

[How Sway?!]

In case you were wondering why the thought exists that we don’t take football seriously:

Idk, I feel like spending as much as the top G5 programs shows otherwise

 

[Waquoit]

Wow good remember. That was him. Whatever happened to him? Hopefully not a health issue.

I met him at a couple of tailgates. It probably was a health issue.

 

[Waquoit]

Then you believe in folklore.

Ain't that America?

 

[dayooper]

Ain't that America?

For you and me?

 

[JMick]

In case you were wondering why the thought exists that we don’t take football seriously:

This graph doesn't really make that argument.

 

[Drew]

This graph doesn't really make that argument.

You know as well as I do that the bar always shifts when it comes to us:

Them: “UConn spends more on men’s basketball than it does on football”

Us: “Yeah but we spend more on football than anyone else in the G5”

Them: “Yeah but you do that through a subsidy generated by massive student fees because your athletic department has so much debt”

And on, and on, and on

 

[JMick]

You know as well as I do that the bar always shifts when it comes to us:

Them: “UConn spends more on men’s basketball than it does on football”

Us: “Yeah but we spend more on football than anyone else in the G5”

Them: “Yeah but you do that through a subsidy generated by massive student fees because your athletic department has so much debt”

And on, and on, and on

But who is "them?"

Randos on Twitter that read at a third grade level?

 

[GoConn]

We're literally spending more than almost every G5 school....plus if we were in a power football conference that would be different, but they powers have left us out so this is not UConns fault.

 

[Drew]

But who is "them?"

Randos on Twitter that read at a third grade level?

Anyone in college sports media and administration, including Athletic Directors as recently as last year from the Big 12

 

[Waquoit]

Speaking of folklore, the groundhog said we were going to get an early spring.

 

[Luna]

Ain't that America?

No.. Taylor Swift

 

[huskymedic]

You know as well as I do that the bar always shifts when it comes to us:

Them: “UConn spends more on men’s basketball than it does on football”

Us: “Yeah but we spend more on football than anyone else in the G5”

Them: “Yeah but you do that through a subsidy generated by massive student fees because your athletic department has so much debt”

And on, and on, and on

Guess we need to shift the narratives one by one :

James Madison’s Record $53M in Student Fees Tops All Public Schools

James Madison's athletic student fee subsidies reached a record $53,3 million in fiscal 2023, by far the highest of any public school in the country.

www.sportico.com

 

[ScottVib]

Idk, I feel like spending as much as the top G5 programs shows otherwise

It’s percentages and perception. Sure UConn spends the same absolute dollars on football as the G5 schools. However if those same G5 schools had access to what UConn spends on basketball as well they’d allocate some (in certain cases most) of that to football as well.

The argument is then we spend as much as any non-P5 program which bleeds into the basketball-only argument of why isn’t football successful, since it’s not let’s devote more to basketball (where they are not only among the highest achieving but also the highest funded programs).

To external forces… football revenue is greater than basketball revenue; if UConn has access to more resources why aren’t they allocating those resources accordingly to improve the program. Clearly they don’t care… and if they get more resources whose to say they’d spend it on football.

UConn is also the only school among the major basketball programs where basketball draws more revenue than football. For each of the others football draws significantly more revenue. The non-UConn fan/president/AD wonders why UConn puts in so much “effort” (funding) to find dimes at the expense of finding dollars.

It’s not necessarily a fair argument but it’s an easy one to make, especially if you’re already predisposed to reject UConn.

 

[huskymedic]

UConn is also the only school among the major basketball programs where basketball draws more revenue than football. For each of the others football draws significantly more revenue. The non-UConn fan/president/AD wonders why UConn puts in so much “effort” (funding) to find dimes at the expense of finding dollars.

It’s not necessarily a fair argument but it’s an easy one to make, especially if you’re already predisposed to reject UConn.

Bit more color: Ticket sales only (no NCAA Tourney Credits/Media Revenue):

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Even Jay Bilas believes BB can break away ala CFP. UConn can be a major player in such a move. It remains farcical that UConn bumps along financially while the likes of Syracuse, BFC get $30mm per year. ( Rutgers getting $65mm is beyond farcical!).
With the ACC blowing up, we'll find some allies to take over March Madness - like UNC, Duke. It's not crazy and if football did it, BB can too!

The big money in basketball is the tournament and the NCAA uses it for a variety of things not basketball related .
Simply demand a bigger share or break away completely.. With the additional costs to be competitive that money is necessary.

 

[JMick]

Anyone in college sports media and administration, including Athletic Directors as recently as last year from the Big 12

They wouldn't care how much money we spent if we didn't suck. We spend enough to be competitive. Can't change our region to a recruiting hotbed

 

[Drew]

They wouldn't care how much money we spent if we didn't suck. We spend enough to be competitive. Can't change our region to a recruiting hotbed

“We spend enough to be competitive” is relative and I would pretty easily argue that 2 bowl games in 12 years says that we do not spend enough to be competitive with our existing schedules.