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If for example, you had a kid who for whatever reason attends URI or UMass and they played UConn in a basketball game, who would your kid be rooting for?
Unless they're getting a full ride from whatever school they're attending, I told my kids they're rooting for UConn, cuz that's the school that got me my post-doctorate employement, which in turn enabled me to pay for their food, school, and shelter. Fealty to the Husky, or get a job and pay yer own way.;):cool:
 
It will likely take a couple generations One problem UCF and USF face is that the bulk of their students are from families who have been UF or FSU fans for generations.

If for example, you had a kid who for whatever reason attends URI or UMass and they played UConn in a basketball game, who would your kid be rooting for?
It would definitely take time but I think alumns of CCSU would root for CCSU. If a kid grows up in the Tampa or Orlando area that's a lot different than living in CT. Plus those are huge schools.
 
It would definitely take time but I think alumns of CCSU would root for CCSU. If a kid grows up in the Tampa or Orlando area that's a lot different than living in CT. Plus those are huge schools.
Yes, it's a lot different in Tampa and Orlando than in Connecticut, but I remember a story from a bit more than three decades ago where a serious brawl broke out at some large family function (reunion?) thet was set off by someone (either Gator or 'Noles fan) being upset that a relative he barely knew was a fan of the other school. It runs pretty deep.
 
Your US Senator is the one responsible for UConn not getting in the ACC. Suing the conference and individuals was the wrong way to go. Southerners hate Yankees from the moment they are born.
The only reason they took BC, after Miami, and Virginia Tech was to start to dismantle the Big East.
The football schools should have split from the basketball schools, when they wouldn't give West Virginia full membership.
Then the conference could have survived, and brought in Florida State, Maryland, and possibly Clemson.
Yes - and he had the temerity to show up at the women's Natty Parade a few weeks ago. (But, I understand he'll show up at a garage door opening if he hears about it...)
 
It seems to me it would follow that more and more Florida residents would follow schools like UCF and USF more so than the old guard UF and FSU.

What I found out earlier while looking up USF is that the campus was built over an old airfield, Hillsborough Army Air Field. Plus you got Bush Gardens. Going to school in Florida is like going to Disney. Literally.

"The University of South Florida campus began construction in 1957 on a site adjacent to the north side of Henderson Airport, and the Busch Gardens theme park was opened in 1959 just south of the airport. The surviving runways are used as a driver training area by Busch Gardens to instruct new drivers on some of their vehicles.
I grew up in Cocoa Beach - about 50 miles east of UCF and 130 miles east of USF - so I’m very familiar with both campuses. They used to be unremarkable-looking commuter schools, but they’ve come a long way over the years. On a lot of fronts.

Florida, followed by Florida State, definitely have the largest in-state followings. And when Miami was winning big, the bandwagon effect in South Florida was palpable. T-shirt fans were everywhere.

As for your point about UCF and USF building their fanbases, I tend to agree. As you seem to allude to, one potential opportunity they have is Florida’s large transplant population. Many newer residents don’t have existing ties to UF or FSU. I don’t see either school ever surpassing the Gators or Seminoles, but I do think they can continue to grow their followings.
 
I grew up in Cocoa Beach - about 50 miles east of UCF and 130 miles east of USF - so I’m very familiar with both campuses. They used to be unremarkable-looking commuter schools, but they’ve come a long way over the years. On a lot of fronts.

Florida, followed by Florida State, definitely have the largest in-state followings. And when Miami was winning big, the bandwagon effect in South Florida was palpable. T-shirt fans were everywhere.

As for your point about UCF and USF building their fanbases, I tend to agree. As you seem to allude to, one potential opportunity they have is Florida’s large transplant population. Many newer residents don’t have existing ties to UF or FSU. I don’t see either school ever surpassing the Gators or Seminoles, but I do think they can continue to grow their followings.

 
Your point absolutely stands. Though I believe UF has an acceptance rate of around 24%, FSU is close at 25%, USF sits at about 40%, and UCF is around 45%.

Demographics have played a huge role here. Florida has a population of about 24 million, which has naturally generated a high level of demand for in-state universities. On top of that, the Florida Legislature established the Bright Futures program a few decades ago. It offers free tuition to in-state students with a GPA of around 3.5 or higher, and significantly reduced tuition for those with GPAs between 3.0 and 3.49.

Parents have been known to sweeten the deal to keep their kids in-state. Some have even gone as far as offering a car in exchange for skipping out on schools like Stanford or Duke.

Actually, as of Fall 2024 UF was 24%, FSU was at 22%, UCF 39% and USF 41%. I went and looked for current data because I know that UCF has become harder to get into than USF in recent years. I listened to a whole rundown from a panel of guidance counselors a couple of months ago. All these schools are pretty hard to get into for many students. AP classes etc are pretty much a must.

UF is only admitting elite students at this point. Their applicant pool is top notch.

I know a few people offering their kids new cars in exchange for going to state schools. It makes sense for both sides.
 
I grew up in Cocoa Beach - about 50 miles east of UCF and 130 miles east of USF - so I’m very familiar with both campuses. They used to be unremarkable-looking commuter schools, but they’ve come a long way over the years. On a lot of fronts.

Florida, followed by Florida State, definitely have the largest in-state followings. And when Miami was winning big, the bandwagon effect in South Florida was palpable. T-shirt fans were everywhere.

As for your point about UCF and USF building their fanbases, I tend to agree. As you seem to allude to, one potential opportunity they have is Florida’s large transplant population. Many newer residents don’t have existing ties to UF or FSU. I don’t see either school ever surpassing the Gators or Seminoles, but I do think they can continue to grow their followings.

The B12 is really helping UCF. Their games across the board are well attended. Their so so baseball team draws nice crowds.
 
The B12 is really helping UCF. Their games across the board are well attended. Their so so baseball team draws nice crowds.
Knights Plaza includes dorms, retail, dining, the basketball arena, all located next to the athletic fields. This is how to do it. Why not catch a few innings before dinner.


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Knights Plaza includes dorms, retail, dining, the basketball arena, all located next to the athletic fields. This is how to do it. Why not catch a few innings before dinner.


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It really is nicely done. UCF is on the rise. Aside from the nice campus, booming city and B12 invite, it is killer for stem students. The areas bordering campus are full of state of the art Fortune 1000 R&D facilities and offices. I was absolutely shocked by the wealth of opportunity there and was happy when my daughter chose it over “better” schools. She loves being in Orlando and wanted to go there all along. It is working out very well for her. I even enjoyed the baseball game. Nice little stadium, good beer selection, great DJ and plenty to do/eat/drink just outside the stadium.
 
It really is nicely done. UCF is on the rise. Aside from the nice campus, booming city and B12 invite, it is killer for stem students. The areas bordering campus are full of state of the art Fortune 1000 R&D facilities and offices. I was absolutely shocked by the wealth of opportunity there and was happy when my daughter chose it over “better” schools. She loves being in Orlando and wanted to go there all along. It is working out very well for her. I even enjoyed the baseball game. Nice little stadium, good beer selection, great DJ and plenty to do/eat/drink just outside the stadium.

The aerospace and aeronautics in that area is top notch. Southeast Orlando metro, Titusville, Patrick Air Force Base, Melbourne, etc.
 
Well I am glad the aeronautics and retail are nice in Orlando.

But UCF stinks in the main sports and is a deadweight addition to the Big 12. They are everything wrong with inviting a school over 1 football season. They are good at nothing. But at least they are a flagship in their state with a huge fanbase. Well maybe not. I have lived in Florida since 2022 and see more Michigan and Ohio State license plates.
 
Well I am glad the aeronautics and retail are nice in Orlando.

But UCF stinks in the main sports and is a deadweight addition to the Big 12. They are everything wrong with inviting a school over 1 football season. They are good at nothing. But at least they are a flagship in their state with a huge fanbase. Well maybe not. I have lived in Florida since 2022 and see more Michigan and Ohio State license plates.

UCF is not a football powerhouse, but they certainly don’t “stink” as a program. They have had a number of good years, including 2 BCS bowl victories.

They are sometimes good at baseball and WBB, too. Mind you, their MBB is atrocious…
 
UCF is not a football powerhouse, but they certainly don’t “stink” as a program. They have had a number of good years, including 2 BCS bowl victories.

They are sometimes good at baseball and WBB, too. Mind you, their MBB is atrocious…
This. The big thing is they’ve invested and are trying to be good at everything. They aren’t faking it. I hated them because their fans were pompous after 2 good football seasons, but the school and AD are legit. They are doing the right things to win and increase the profile of the school. With a daughter there, I’ve come around and I like what I see. It’s a good college experience. I particularly like that they let the kids have fun on campus. Tailgates are no issue for anyone, including the under age. Just don’t do anything stupid or start a fight. Everyone is free to have fun. It’s college the way it used to be in a lot of ways.
 
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This. The big thing is they’ve invested and are trying to be good at everything. They aren’t faking it. I hated them because their fans were pompous after 2 good football seasons, but the school and AD are legit. They are doing the right things to win and increase the profile of the school. With a daughter there, I’ve come around and I like what I see. It’s a good college experience. I particularly like that they let the kids have fun on campus. Tailgates are no issue for anyone, including the under age. Just don’t do anything stupid or start a fight. Everyone is free to have fun. It’s college the way it used to be in a lot of ways.
People forget where we are on the pecking order all the time. Yes, ucf is ahead of uconn on all serious metrics. This is on the state government at this point for not investing
 
The jury is still out on UCF's overall competitiveness in the Big 12. This last season was not good for UCF athletics: 14th/15 in baseball, 14/16 in men's basketball, 13/16 in women's basketball, 15/16 in football, 13/16 in women's soccer, 7/11 in softball, 14/15 in volleyball, T14/16 in men's golf, 9/14 in women's golf.

I think people underestimate how long and how much investment it takes for an athletic department to develop programs that are competitive. UCF invested in football to get the P4 invite and it paid off, but their other sports weren't ready for the move as they weren't that competitive before they moved to the B12. And, UCF is the big outlier in the Big 12 with the nearest conference schools about 900 miles away.
 
The jury is still out on UCF's overall competitiveness in the Big 12. This last season was not good for UCF athletics: 14th/15 in baseball, 14/16 in men's basketball, 13/16 in women's basketball, 15/16 in football, 13/16 in women's soccer, 7/11 in softball, 14/15 in volleyball, T14/16 in men's golf, 9/14 in women's golf.

I think people underestimate how long and how much investment it takes for an athletic department to develop programs that are competitive. UCF invested in football to get the P4 invite and it paid off, but their other sports weren't ready for the move as they weren't that competitive before they moved to the B12. And, UCF is the big outlier in the Big 12 with the nearest conference schools about 900 miles away.
Curious, though not enough to do the research, where UConn's teams would be (based on national rankings).
 
The jury is still out on UCF's overall competitiveness in the Big 12. This last season was not good for UCF athletics: 14th/15 in baseball, 14/16 in men's basketball, 13/16 in women's basketball, 15/16 in football, 13/16 in women's soccer, 7/11 in softball, 14/15 in volleyball, T14/16 in men's golf, 9/14 in women's golf.

I think people underestimate how long and how much investment it takes for an athletic department to develop programs that are competitive. UCF invested in football to get the P4 invite and it paid off, but their other sports weren't ready for the move as they weren't that competitive before they moved to the B12. And, UCF is the big outlier in the Big 12 with the nearest conference schools about 900 miles away.

UCF skipped leg day and every other day.
 
The jury is still out on UCF's overall competitiveness in the Big 12. This last season was not good for UCF athletics: 14th/15 in baseball, 14/16 in men's basketball, 13/16 in women's basketball, 15/16 in football, 13/16 in women's soccer, 7/11 in softball, 14/15 in volleyball, T14/16 in men's golf, 9/14 in women's golf.

I think people underestimate how long and how much investment it takes for an athletic department to develop programs that are competitive. UCF invested in football to get the P4 invite and it paid off, but their other sports weren't ready for the move as they weren't that competitive before they moved to the B12. And, UCF is the big outlier in the Big 12 with the nearest conference schools about 900 miles away.
The just signed Scott Frost the new coach to a 22 million dollar agreement for 5 year contract. That just reiterates that the only sport that matters for a power conference is football and that is where they are apparently investing.
 
I think Kaley Cuoco would make a splended Jeannie

Okay, true story, I worked with a guy whose son is friends with the guy that just had a kid with Cuoco...maybe I can put the idea in her head by proxy that she should petition for the role.
 
People forget where we are on the pecking order all the time. Yes, ucf is ahead of uconn on all serious metrics. This is on the state government at this point for not

The jury is still out on UCF's overall competitiveness in the Big 12. This last season was not good for UCF athletics: 14th/15 in baseball, 14/16 in men's basketball, 13/16 in women's basketball, 15/16 in football, 13/16 in women's soccer, 7/11 in softball, 14/15 in volleyball, T14/16 in men's golf, 9/14 in women's golf.

I think people underestimate how long and how much investment it takes for an athletic department to develop programs that are competitive. UCF invested in football to get the P4 invite and it paid off, but their other sports weren't ready for the move as they weren't that competitive before they moved to the B12. And, UCF is the big outlier in the Big 12 with the nearest conference schools about 900 miles away.
It is amazing how good UConn’s athletic programs and facilities are considering the minimal amount of money they receive from being a Big East member and independent in football. Baseball, basketball, football, track and Field, softball. UConn fields very competitive teams. It certainly defies the odds.
 
It is amazing how good UConn’s athletic programs and facilities are considering the minimal amount of money they receive from being a Big East member and independent in football. Baseball, basketball, football, track and Field, softball. UConn fields very competitive teams. It certainly defies the odds.
Oh, I forgot our nationally ranked men’s and women’s ice hockey teams.
 

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