Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[DarthGrumpy]

Does NC State flip its vote this morning if they were returning from a stinging loss in E. Hartford? I kid.

No, but I think it foretells a future split between the NC schools when UNC goes to the B1G and NC State goes to either the SEC or XII.

 

[Mora4Prez]

We really probably shouldn’t have left the AAC. There are plenty of teams (JMU Tulane UTSA) that are having a ton of fun and great brand-building moments right now despite being in minor conferences.

And now I really don’t even blame the ACC and Big12 for not wanting us. This is fully self inflicted. We joined the AAC and just stopped caring about football for like a decade. Then we made a ton of noise to go to the big east - football be damned. And now we want other people in football centric conferences to take us seriously? I mean if I was a neutral observer - I certainly wouldn’t. It’s really upsetting to me that the 2014-2022 state and school administrations really ranked our long-term athletic prospects.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

No, but I think it foretells a future split between the NC schools when UNC goes to the B1G and NC State goes to either the SEC or XII.

Or will NC State find itself in the remains of the ACC with perhaps UConn in the mix.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

We really probably shouldn’t have left the AAC. There are plenty of teams (JMU Tulane UTSA) that are having a ton of fun and great brand-building moments right now despite being in minor conferences.

And now I really don’t even blame the ACC and Big12 for not wanting us. This is fully self inflicted. We joined the AAC and just stopped caring about football for like a decade. Then we made a ton of noise to go to the big east - football be damned. And now we want other people in football centric conferences to take us seriously? I mean if I was a neutral observer - I certainly wouldn’t. It’s really upsetting to me that the 2014-2022 state and school administrations really ranked our long-term athletic prospects.

We didn't stop caring about football for a decade but rather we hired 3 crappy/progressively worse coaches in a row.

 

[Tdaley]

We really probably shouldn’t have left the AAC. There are plenty of teams (JMU Tulane UTSA) that are having a ton of fun and great brand-building moments right now despite being in minor conferences.

And now I really don’t even blame the ACC and Big12 for not wanting us. This is fully self inflicted. We joined the AAC and just stopped caring about football for like a decade. Then we made a ton of noise to go to the big east - football be damned. And now we want other people in football centric conferences to take us seriously? I mean if I was a neutral observer - I certainly wouldn’t. It’s really upsetting to me that the 2014-2022 state and school administrations really ranked our long-term athletic prospects.

I think an argument could be made that we didn’t suddenly stop caring about football for ten years. That despite some success during Edsall’s first run , the UConn administration NEVER cared enough about football and now we are paying a heavy price. We heard the complaints during Edsall 1.0. We witnessed the incompetence of at least one AD. We were stupefied by 3 straight horrible head coach hires! All of this is very depressing for our fan base who care about all of UConn ‘s sports programs.

 

[Storrs South]

We really probably shouldn’t have left the AAC.

Brett Yormark isn't even thinking about UConn if they didn't just go on that title run, which the Big East significantly helped bolster. I'm not even going to argue long term Big East viability but strictly in the short term being the last 5 years it was the correct decision in the moment and even more so in hindsight. It's not up for debate.

 

[Hoophound]

Brett Yormark isn't even thinking about UConn if they didn't just go on that title run, which the Big East significantly helped bolster. I'm not even going to argue long term Big East viability but strictly in the short term being the last 5 years it was the correct decision in the moment and even more so in hindsight. It's not up for debate.

We’ll be back on his radar shortly. We’re going 9-3 in football this season.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Brett Yormark isn't even thinking about UConn if they didn't just go on that title run, which the Big East significantly helped bolster. I'm not even going to argue long term Big East viability but strictly in the short term being the last 5 years it was the correct decision in the moment and even more so in hindsight. It's not up for debate.

Hurley was responsible for the national championship hardly the so-called Big East. If we stayed in the AAC and had the likes of Hurley and Mora as coaches, we likely would be in the B12 now.

 

[UConnJim]

We didn't stop caring about football for a decade but rather we hired 3 crappy/progressively worse coaches in a row.

Maybe they did care, but look at what happened. Hired Edsall 2.0 at about half the salary of the previous coach. That does not happen at any school. Had the head coach fund a pay raise for the OC out of his pocket. Left the AAC with a limited plan for football. Cancelled the 2020 football season. We pay both the men’s basketball coach and women’s basketball coach salaries that are not more, but multiple times what the head football coach makes.

How does that scream UConn cares about football?

 

[JMick]

Brett Yormark isn't even thinking about UConn if they didn't just go on that title run, which the Big East significantly helped bolster. I'm not even going to argue long term Big East viability but strictly in the short term being the last 5 years it was the correct decision in the moment and even more so in hindsight. It's not up for debate.

It was the best decision we could have made, but I don't think a lot of other ADs and conference commissioners understood the move at all.

it was unorthodox and a lot of these people don't think outside the box.

 

[noeynox]

Uconn had one shot at this. They took Louisville. Since then, nothing matters. What’s crazy is that moving back to the Big East helped us tremendously and killed us at same time. Networks have what they value for pennies on the dollar. No need to move us. I am at the point that I feel fortunate. As a 48 year old, I enjoyed UConn’s dominance and its spectacular ride in my prime. My guess is that in 15 years, UConn athletics are priced out, I am in my 60s and I relive the glory days contently on YouTube. So be it. We got a lifetime of memories in 25 years.

Ha. We are the same age basically. Barring a total shift in the paradigm, where like Nelson says streaming becomes the saving grace, UConn FB has till the mid 2030s to sink or swim. We've had a great run, we totally had the wrong people in charge at our most crucial time.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Maybe they did care, but look at what happened. Hired Edsall 2.0 at about half the salary of the previous coach. That does not happen at any school. Had the head coach fund a pay raise for the OC out of his pocket. Left the AAC with a limited plan for football. Cancelled the 2020 football season. We pay both the men’s basketball coach and women’s basketball coach salaries that are not more, but multiple times what the head football coach makes.

How does that scream UConn cares about football?

Define a "limited" plan for football?

The schedule improved off the bat and we secured a linear tv deal with CBS Sports Network as opposed to playing behind the ESPN+ Paywall?

 

[JohnFSilver]

Are you kidding? Look at the last rounds of realignment. AAC schools UCF, Cincy, and SMU got seats. It almost looks like it's better to be in the AAC than not. Lol. I kid, kinda

UConn region is a major negative. It isn’t just location, football prowess, it is people don’t want to associate with a New England Public, no matter how good the academics get.

It’s cultural.

 

[noeynox]

Maybe they did care, but look at what happened. Hired Edsall 2.0 at about half the salary of the previous coach. That does not happen at any school. Had the head coach fund a pay raise for the OC out of his pocket. Left the AAC with a limited plan for football. Cancelled the 2020 football season. We pay both the men’s basketball coach and women’s basketball coach salaries that are not more, but multiple times what the head football coach makes.

How does that scream UConn cares about football?

Spot on. On here pointing out the obvious makes people mad.

 

[Kolumbo]

We really probably shouldn’t have left the AAC. There are plenty of teams (JMU Tulane UTSA) that are having a ton of fun and great brand-building moments right now despite being in minor conferences.

And now I really don’t even blame the ACC and Big12 for not wanting us. This is fully self inflicted. We joined the AAC and just stopped caring about football for like a decade. Then we made a ton of noise to go to the big east - football be damned. And now we want other people in football centric conferences to take us seriously? I mean if I was a neutral observer - I certainly wouldn’t. It’s really upsetting to me that the 2014-2022 state and school administrations really ranked our long-term athletic prospects.

I believe a common misunderstanding and a very important distinction because even you as a UConn fan are misrepresenting what happened. Of course the rest of the country doesn't get it. UConn did not join the AAC and then leave and because people believe that is what UConn did, it hurts UConn's rep. UConn was in the Big East which quickly degraded and turned into a southern based AAC made up of programs no one in New England cared about. It was a tough situation all around but it was hardly self-inflicted.

 

[JohnFSilver]

This move solidified the end of the ACC. UConn's best move right now is to not make a bad knee-jerk move to a G5 conference and stand pat for the remnants of the impending ACC dissolution or pick up a future B12 invite.

It is unconscionable how stupid the ACC is to have added these three against the objections of their three biggest brands. There's no way this further solidifies the ACC GOR, if anything it provides those three more loopholes to get out of it. Remember when the Big East added SDSU and Boise? This is basically that, the beginning of the end.

I think the StanCal/ SMU gambit is a mistake. That makes me worry about the acc. I would just as soon go big 12. No super teams there, but good solid programs.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Ah…the term is Grant of Rights.

You can’t pledge your rights to another conference because they are already signed away.

Yeah. Essentially, the schools don’t own their rights. They gave possession of them away.

I am sure there is a way to get out of it. But it gonna be costly.

 

[uconnyankee]

Are you kidding? Look at the last rounds of realignment. AAC schools UCF, Cincy, and SMU got seats. It almost looks like it's better to be in the AAC than not. Lol. I kid, kinda

Let’s not say SMU got a seat ok?
They literally bought a seat by not taking a payment for 9 years.

 

[UCFBfan]

Let’s not say SMU got a seat ok?
They literally bought a seat by not taking a payment for 9 years.

What is your definition of getting a seat? On their field it will say ACC. Whether they get money for 9 years or not, they are part of that conference. So yes, they got a seat.

 

[Kolumbo]

UConn region is a major negative. It isn’t just location, football prowess, it is people don’t want to associate with a New England Public, no matter how good the academics get.

It’s cultural.

I don't get what you mean about being a New England Public, but yes, our area of the country is much different than the rest of the country in many ways. NY has SUNY locations instead of one or two large flagship state U's. Similar situation in Mass. The Northeast is chock full of elite private schools. I've never felt people don't want to be associated with UConn, UMass, UVM.

 

[noeynox]

Let’s not say SMU got a seat ok?
They literally bought a seat by not taking a payment for 9 years.

Whatever it takes. If they win that conference they will have a shot at CFB playoff. That said, a good move for them doesn't equal a good move for us.

 

[Dizzy21]

Let’s not say SMU got a seat ok?
They literally bought a seat by not taking a payment for 9 years.

They are taking plenty of payments, at least if not more than they would have in the AAC and more than we are getting. Aside from all the monetary benefits of them being in the ACC instead of AAC, having better opponents, better P5 association, and better educational institutions. Not sure how that equates to buying a seat.

 

[Storrs South]

It was the best decision we could have made, but I don't think a lot of other ADs and conference commissioners understood the move at all.

it was unorthodox and a lot of these people don't think outside the box.

It was an extremely unorthodox move. One no one else in FBS has made before or since...and it worked. Major kudos to President Herbst getting that done on the way out. Doesn't fully undo the mess that started a decade ago under her watch but she does deserve credit for at least partially correcting the wrongs of the early 2010s and it paid a massive dividend in April 2023.

So yes most outside the northeast aren't going to understand and likely not care the why and how we ended up where we are. It also is a move that worked for UConn but probably only works at 10 other schools at most in FBS, only 2 of which sits in the Big 12 today and only 3 of which sits in the ACC today. To every one else it probably looks like giving up until giving it careful inspection.

 

[UConnJim]

Define a "limited" plan for football?

The schedule improved off the bat and we secured a linear tv deal with CBS Sports Network as opposed to playing behind the ESPN+ Paywall?

Edsall was never consulted and he didn't find out about the move to the Big East until the last minute and football is supposed to be the most important sport. UConn was focused on the landing for basketball and just figured we could go indy in football. I get and support the move to the Big East, but nobody thought going indy was going to enhance football. Now, that we see what has happened to the AAC, it was the correct move.

 

[JohnFSilver]

I don't get what you mean about being a New England Public, but yes, our area of the country is much different than the rest of the country in many ways. NY has SUNY locations instead of one or two large flagship state U's. Similar situation in Mass. The Northeast is chock full of elite private schools. I've never felt people don't want to be associated with UConn, UMass, UVM.

U aren’t hanging with the crowd then. Game, Wesleyan, Trinity runs deep in the state.