Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[UCFBfan]

This is the beginning of the end for CFB. The B1G goes to 20 so the SEC needs to keep up. They have 16 so they need 4 more. They go to the ACC and take their prize desire of UVA, UNC, and then maybe Clemson and FSU but not sure they really care because they already have a school in each of those states. Now the ACC backfills with UConn and.....umm..... The PAC is gone, Oregon St and Wazu go to the MWC and the Big 12 just fights for survival. Maybe the SEC takes UVA and UNC from the ACC and two from the Big 12? Who knows.

All I know is that this will kill one conference entirely and gut the ACC.

Oh and CR #1 occurs and UConn is still on the outside looking in.....

 

[king conn]

I think that B1G news is somewhat good for UConn finding a potential landing spot. My thought is if B1G does go to 20, how does the SEC not try and keep up with that? They will try and get ACC schools or Big 12 schools even maybe.

This then will leave an opening for us in the Big12/ACC. Thoughts?

I just read the SEC might be interested in TCU

This could go many different ways

 

[ctchamps]

Unless it’s negotiated prior. That’s the sticking point. They can’t sue for something they agreed to prior.

Yep. And on the third attempt I finally understood @businesslawyer, @HuskyHawk and @Fairfield Fan and their explanation on this matter.

 

[aburks41]

I think that B1G news is somewhat good for UConn finding a potential landing spot. My thought is if B1G does go to 20, how does the SEC not try and keep up with that? They will try and get ACC schools or Big 12 schools even maybe.

This then will leave an opening for us in the Big12/ACC. Thoughts?

Or, this new pushes AZ/ASU/Utah to the B12 and leaves us with no life raft

 

[Eavesdrop]

1. I don’t think there is anything behind what FSU said beyond pleasing boosters.

2. You are correct that no conference or network is going to pay for FSU’s games in advance of this being litigated. If FSU has a strategy to get out of the ACC before the GOR expiration, they would presumably move for a Declaratory Judgment that they can get out of it and just pay damages.

Unlike you, I am not an attorney. I accordingly will not even attempt to discuss the complex legal obstacles and risks.

I am though a Florida State alumnus, who worked at my alma mater from 1999 to 2010. Unfortunately, I don't have any well-placed direct campus connections left to contact. I can only offer the opinion of - a previoulsy FSU conference move skeptical - someone who closely follows university happenings.

I believe Florida State's leadership is currently posturing. I do not believe they're bluffing. I fully believe FSU's leadership intends to leave the ACC well before 2036.

How? No clue. Where would they go? No idea. When will this happen? Beats me. But I don't believe the wait to find out will be years.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If this does quickly turn into the B1G and SEC scurrying to get the quality pieces of the PAC while casting aside the scraps don't be surprised if the SEC starts looking at UofA and ASU.

 

[superjohn]

Big 10 will go to 20 and still won't win anything in basketball and football.

 

[JeepCSC]

I just read the SEC might be interested in TCU

This could go many different ways

The Big XII would be cheaper to go for than the ACC, but obviously the targets would likely be richer in the ACC.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I just read the SEC might be interested in TCU

This could go many different ways

They already have the two prize properties in Texas. Beyond that, the SEC Texas schools (UT, TA&M) have historically controlled more of the tv markets in DFW and Houston than the more local schools have. I'm not sure there is an upside to the SEC adding another Texas school.

 

[CL82]

That’s about as direct an answer you’ll get. Sounds like they’re on the move….

"Credibility is dependent upon confidentiality."

That casts UConn's silence in an interesting light, doesn't it?

 

[Jimbo]

So much for the FSU-to-Big 10 talk? (I wasn’t buying it anyway.)

Seems more likely that the Big 10 goes to 18 than 20, at least for right now. Do they really love Cal and Stanford that much, or is it better to keep spots #19 and #20 open for ACC defectors?

Whatever Utah may have preferred before, hard to believe they won’t be calling the Big 12 now. If the Big 12 is really serious about the Northeast, they’ll take UConn over Utah as #16, with the Arizona schools. If not, we’re doomed as usual (or we end up joining the burnt-out carcass of a rotting ACC someday, so only slightly less doomed).

 

[businesslawyer]

I think that B1G news is somewhat good for UConn finding a potential landing spot. My thought is if B1G does go to 20, how does the SEC not try and keep up with that? They will try and get ACC schools or Big 12 schools even maybe.

This then will leave an opening for us in the Big12/ACC. Thoughts?

If this does quickly turn into the B1G and SEC scurrying to get the quality pieces of the PAC while casting aside the scraps don't be surprised if the SEC starts looking at UofA and ASU.

If I'm the SEC, I don't see an advantage of doing that. I would rather show patience and raid the ACC when the opportunity arises, even if that means waiting for a decade. What college male would pick up a 7 in a bar on a Saturday night rather than wait for their 10 to come around. (And yes, as soon as I typed that I realized that doesn't make my point at all.)

 

[shizzle787]

We’re out. Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington to B1G. Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah to Big 12.

 

[king conn]

They already have the two prize properties in Texas. Beyond that, the SEC Texas schools (UT, TA&M) have historically controlled more of the tv markets in DFW and Houston than the more local schools have. I'm not sure there is an upside to the SEC adding another Texas school.

Football prowess? Locking up the best recruits in the most recruited state? Who knows?

That conference cares about football more than markets

 

[aburks41]

We’re out. Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington to B1G. Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah to Big 12.

That's what I think too. This was the worst possible news to come out. AZ/ASU/Utah will announce their move by the end of next week.

 

[CL82]

We’re out. Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington to B1G. Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah to Big 12.

I'm not sure that Utah gets in ahead of us.

 

[Punkbo]

The third option, and I do not think it is imminent at all, is the article I posted from Dennis Dodd CBS just above. It came out 40 minutes ago. He details an organized and third party funded option to create an alternative to the B1G and SEC. With that third party buying out the top schools and essentially owning the conference.

Based on the ineptitude of most of the conferences and their leadership, private investment in college athletics is a foregone conclusion.

 

[NH Husky]

So if we don't get invited by the Big XII, your plan is to make sure we turn them down?

Not sure where the snippy question comes from.
I was simply saying all four adds coming from the west makes the Big XII much less appealing regarding any future realignments (taking conferences to 20 or 24 for example).

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If I'm the SEC, I don't see an advantage of doing that. I would rather show patience and raid the ACC when the opportunity arises, even if that means waiting for a decade. What college male would pick up a 7 in a bar on a Saturday night rather than wait for their 10 to come around. (And yes, as soon as I typed that I realized that doesn't make my point at all.)

I don't see the SEC rushing into anything but I have my suspicions that their end game (may be 12-14 years out) includes the two Arizona schools (and at least a couple ACC schools).

 

[shizzle787]

I'm not sure that Utah gets in ahead of us.

They get in if they want to, and they will.

 

[businesslawyer]

Not sure where the snippy question comes from.
I was simply saying all four adds coming from the west makes the Big XII much less appealing regarding any future realignments (taking conferences to 20 or 24 for example).

Meant to be more ironic than snippy. Sorry if it came over that way.

 

[Urcea]

if the B1G does end up taking 4 the MWC should just buy the PAC name and add Oregon St and Washington St

 

[CL82]

They get in if they want to, and they will.

I'm not so sure about that. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me to see Yormark take Arizona and Arizona State and Connecticut.

 

[ctchamps]

I’ve tried to figure why Fox and ESPN have been aiding the B12 to strengthen it and accelerate the PACs demise. The best explanation I can up with is they are accelerating the consolidation of college sports to reduce the impact of any threats from the streaming platforms.

Easier to control 60 to 80 programs monetarily than 350 programs and it will be more profitable by reducing an over saturated product. Those programs will have less competition to divide up among themselves the best players with the monies they are getting. The concepts like NIL that already in the work in their favor can only get better.

 

[Gburyhusky]

In a banking crisis, the federal reserve will always look to the largest banks to step in and stabilize the system so it doesn't collapse. This benefits everyone, most especially the largest banks. It's somewhat counterintuitive. One would think that the surviving large banks benefit from the demise of a competitor, but the reality is that the larger banks are susceptible to failure and collapse if the system collapses around them, no matter how strong their balance sheet may appear. I think we are approaching that point here. I don't believe it's in the Big 10 or SECs interest (or the Big 12 for that matter) for the PAC to collapse. I am not sure that the system survives a PAC collapse, and if you start freezing out high profile state funded institutions, you are going to see congress get heavily involved. If I am counseling the Big 10 or the SEC I am telling them to find a way asap to salvage the PAC.