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I like the mention of a school from the ACC. Could this mean an opening for UConn in the ACC.
They don't want to be known as the single reason why the Pac crumbled.Why would the B1G care?
Just curious- why wouldn’t you want to play Syracuse, BC, Pitt on a regular basis in all sports?Ugh. I kind of feel like it is getting inevitable that we end up with Cuse, BC and Wake somewhere I probably don’t want to be.
Because there is a very low likelihood that a media partner is going to want to pay a significant amount of money for the rights to those games?Just curious- why wouldn’t you want to play Syracuse, BC, Pitt on a regular basis in all sports?
Because there is a very low likelihood that a media partner is going to want to pay a significant amount of money for the rights to those games?
Exactly! You don’t want to move from one financially unstable home, paying all the exit fees and entrance fees, to another unstable home. That’s just chasing your tail because you’re going to have to move again shortly.
It's a valid point at the moment. But at some point - and I think it'll be before 2036 - the B1G, SEC, and B12 will have hit a limit on # of teams they'd accept. Let's say all three went to 20 teams, so that's 60 teams getting considerably more money than the ACC and remnants of whatever's left out West.Exactly! You don’t want to move from one financially unstable home, paying all the exit fees and entrance fees, to another unstable home. That’s just chasing your tail because you’re going to have to move again shortly.
Largely agree. But the poster I responded to asked why would someone want to play in a league with Pittsburgh and Syracuse. That’s the answer.It's a valid point at the moment. But at some point - and I think it'll be before 2036 - the B1G, SEC, and B12 will have hit a limit on # of teams they'd accept. Let's say all three went to 20 teams, so that's 60 teams getting considerably more money than the ACC and remnants of whatever's left out West.
Let's say all three conferences fill out at 20 members. It would probably look something like this, using some metric on value to determine which teams to choose:
B1G adds: Notre Dame, Oregon, Washington, Stanford
SEC adds: Clemson, Florida St., Va Tech, Miami
B12 adds: Arizona St, Utah, Ga Tech, Cal, Louisville, NC State, Arizona St., Colorado
That leaves a motley crew of the following remnants of the ACC/Pac12 and others:
From ACC: Pitt, Virginia, Syracuse, BC, Duke, Wake
From Pac12: Oregon St., Wash St.
AAC possibilities/Independents of Note: Army, USF, ECU, Navy, Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, UConn.
Given I don't know squat, any of the teams mentioned as "adds" may be replaced by another team. But for purposes of this exercise, the number of teams left in the pool and their geography matters more than the specific team.
Logic would suggest that Oregon St. and Washington St. simply join the Mountain West.
That would leave a potential 12 team mostly eastern conference of: Pitt, UVA, Syracuse, BC, Duke, Wake, Temple, Navy, USF, ECU, Memphis and UConn. It's a butt-ugly landing spot, but a conference that should earn a much better contract than the AAC. Maybe it's just a 10 school conference instead of 12 and there are no directionals.
Much as I love UConn, I don't see any way the B1G or B12 takes us given the other options available. So, joining the ACC would not involve exit fees and probably not much in the way of entrance fees. But, during the years that the ACC was still viable, the revenue would be greatly preferable to what we're receiving now.
You left out UNC (also ASU twice but assume you meant UA). Doubt Louisville gets picked over UNC in any scenario. Given the still valuable properties left under a 20 team scenario, it's likely that at least 1 goes to 24 (most likely the Big12). In that case, the "last spot" would likely be down to BC, Syracuse, Louisville, UConn or Wake Forest.It's a valid point at the moment. But at some point - and I think it'll be before 2036 - the B1G, SEC, and B12 will have hit a limit on # of teams they'd accept. Let's say all three went to 20 teams, so that's 60 teams getting considerably more money than the ACC and remnants of whatever's left out West.
Let's say all three conferences fill out at 20 members. It would probably look something like this, using some metric on value to determine which teams to choose:
B1G adds: Notre Dame, Oregon, Washington, Stanford
SEC adds: Clemson, Florida St., Va Tech, Miami
B12 adds: Arizona St, Utah, Ga Tech, Cal, Louisville, NC State, Arizona St., Colorado
That leaves a motley crew of the following remnants of the ACC/Pac12 and others:
From ACC: Pitt, Virginia, Syracuse, BC, Duke, Wake
From Pac12: Oregon St., Wash St.
AAC possibilities/Independents of Note: Army, USF, ECU, Navy, Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, UConn.
Given I don't know squat, any of the teams mentioned as "adds" may be replaced by another team. But for purposes of this exercise, the number of teams left in the pool and their geography matters more than the specific team.
Logic would suggest that Oregon St. and Washington St. simply join the Mountain West.
That would leave a potential 12 team mostly eastern conference of: Pitt, UVA, Syracuse, BC, Duke, Wake, Temple, Navy, USF, ECU, Memphis and UConn. It's a butt-ugly landing spot, but a conference that should earn a much better contract than the AAC. Maybe it's just a 10 school conference instead of 12 and there are no directionals.
Much as I love UConn, I don't see any way the B1G or B12 takes us given the other options available. So, joining the ACC would not involve exit fees and probably not much in the way of entrance fees. But, during the years that the ACC was still viable, the revenue would be greatly preferable to what we're receiving now.
I don’t know if I’d call it butt ugly, it’s not a terrible looking conference. What would be unbelievable is if the Big East merged with these schools for basketball. That would be a pretty nice spot for UConn sportsIt's a valid point at the moment. But at some point - and I think it'll be before 2036 - the B1G, SEC, and B12 will have hit a limit on # of teams they'd accept. Let's say all three went to 20 teams, so that's 60 teams getting considerably more money than the ACC and remnants of whatever's left out West.
Let's say all three conferences fill out at 20 members. It would probably look something like this, using some metric on value to determine which teams to choose:
B1G adds: Notre Dame, Oregon, Washington, Stanford
SEC adds: Clemson, Florida St., Va Tech, Miami
B12 adds: Arizona St, Utah, Ga Tech, Cal, Louisville, NC State, Arizona St., Colorado
That leaves a motley crew of the following remnants of the ACC/Pac12 and others:
From ACC: Pitt, Virginia, Syracuse, BC, Duke, Wake
From Pac12: Oregon St., Wash St.
AAC possibilities/Independents of Note: Army, USF, ECU, Navy, Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, UConn.
Given I don't know squat, any of the teams mentioned as "adds" may be replaced by another team. But for purposes of this exercise, the number of teams left in the pool and their geography matters more than the specific team.
Logic would suggest that Oregon St. and Washington St. simply join the Mountain West.
That would leave a potential 12 team mostly eastern conference of: Pitt, UVA, Syracuse, BC, Duke, Wake, Temple, Navy, USF, ECU, Memphis and UConn. It's a butt-ugly landing spot, but a conference that should earn a much better contract than the AAC. Maybe it's just a 10 school conference instead of 12 and there are no directionals.
Much as I love UConn, I don't see any way the B1G or B12 takes us given the other options available. So, joining the ACC would not involve exit fees and probably not much in the way of entrance fees. But, during the years that the ACC was still viable, the revenue would be greatly preferable to what we're receiving now.