Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Charley Horse]

Whoops, good catch. They went 3-9. Updated list below:

1) Houston 13-1
2) TCU 11-2
3) Baylor 10-3
4) Texas A&M 8-5
5) Texas Tech 7-6
6) Texas 5-7
7) UTEP 5-7
8) Rice 5-7
9) UTSA 3-9
10) Texas State 3-9
11) SMU 2-10
12) North Texas 1-11

OR...

1) Texas 886-353-33 .710
2) Texas A&M 717-466-44 .602
3) Texas Tech 556-429-32 .560
4) Houston 437-352-15 .541
5) TCU 627-531-57 .540
6) Texas State 505-431-57 .539
7) Baylor 581-551-44 .513
8) North Texas 493-489-33 .502
9) SMU 477-527-54 .476
10) UTSA 26-32 .448
11) Rice 466-586-32 .445
12) UTEP 386-565-30 .409

'Thought you guys deplored judgments drawn on current, yet incomplete data...

 

[NYUConn]

OR...

1) Texas 886-353-33 .710
2) Texas A&M 717-466-44 .602
3) Texas Tech 556-429-32 .560
4) Houston 437-352-15 .541
5) TCU 627-531-57 .540
6) Texas State 505-431-57 .539
7) Baylor 581-551-44 .513
8) North Texas 493-489-33 .502
9) SMU 477-527-54 .476
10) UTSA 26-32 .448
11) Rice 466-586-32 .445
12) UTEP 386-565-30 .409

'Thought you guys deplored judgments drawn on current, yet incomplete data...

WHEN YOU CAN GET THE 11TH BEST SCHOOL IN TEXAS, YOU DO IT.

 

[HuskyHawk]

So, UConn fans - tell me about Temple as a conference mate and as a potential Big 12 invitee should Fox encourage the Big 12 to make a strong play at the Northeast.

Here's what I know as a KU fan. Incredibly tough hoops team to play especially at their place. Football had a good year but usually pretty and minus Notre Dame and Penn State fans packing out the stadium, they don't draw worth a crap. Solid-sized school with good enrollment numbers and decent enough academics. Used to be a P5 Big East member but got kicked out for being terrible at football.

Is there any logic in the Big 12 looking at both UConn and Temple as a duo? Or can Temple not hack it?

@BrassBonanza covered it pretty well. It has lots of potential down the road. Fan base will always be split, and Philly is as much a pro-sports city as any. Penn State/ND carries whatever college football support Philly has, and college hoops is fragmented between Nova, Temple and St. Joes, all of which are competitive. They are all lucky Penn State sucks at basketball (as is Pitt).

Culturally it's a much less of a fit than UConn. UConn is a land grant school in a rural town, with a solid Ag program and its own herd of cows. Temple is a gritty inner-city school. Cinci is a "city school", but aside from a small downtown, Cincinnati is about as urban as Overland Park. I'd be surprised if they chose Temple over either USF or UCF. All three have big markets but weak market penetration.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I'd love to see UConn/Cincy/Temple/BYU as the four. Travel is more manageable, and basketball in that league would be amazing.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I'd love to see UConn/Cincy/Temple/BYU as the four. Travel is more manageable, and basketball in that league would be amazing.

BYU makes travel a mess. Dump them for someone else.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Temple has a small and pigeon-holed fanbase. They have a good but not spectacular basketball program and weak at best support in football. While they've improved in football in the last 10 years, that improvement was from a position as one of the four or five worst FBS programs in the country. It's a large public city school with a relatively large alumni base, but that hasn't parlayed into large football crowds or even consistently enormous basketball crowds. The main problem is there are so many colleges in Philly with athletic programs that it splits the city's attention. Especially with Villanova rising to such prominence in basketball of late, it's hard for Temple to corner any kind of stranglehold on the attention of the city's media or casual fan. That plus Philly being heavily dominated by pro sports makes them waaaaay down on the totem pole in their own city, much less their own state - which is already dominated by PSU.

They could be a contender down the road if they were to actually build the program into a consistent player on the national scene and proved that people in the city care about them, but at this point they're nowhere near being ready. Taking them would be a highly speculative move by the Big 12.

Basically, Temple is a large, public, urban university (similar to U Houston and Memphis in that regard); but with better academics (#115 nationally) than Houston, Memphis (and Louisville). The school is in one of the country's largest TV markets (#4); but, the Owls are often buried by Penn St in football and Villanova in basketball along with a full slate of pro sports teams. Temple has begun to take sports more seriously lately as they are in the process of moving most of their Olympic sports from their suburban campus to the main campus and they are pushing plans to build a 30K to 40K football stadium on the main campus, which has decent support from City Hall as the politicians hope it will be a catalyst to help improving what was once a really rough neighborhood. The football team currently plays at Lincoln Field, home of the Philadelphia Eagles and it is apparently costing the University and arm and a leg to do so. Basketball already plays on the main campus (been there, not bad, especially as it has direct subway access, though getting to it by car from the east (I-95), north, and west is a little scary). But, it looks the current Temple President was just canned and he was stadium supporter #1...

Jensen: Will Temple still build campus football stadium?

 

[junglehusky]

Tramel qualifies as Premium Top Shelf... but this one is an opinion piece on the process so I'll dump it here.

Berry Tramel: Why is Rice on the Big 12 Expansion List?

There are four, at most five, candidates for Big 12 expansion: BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, UConn and maybe one of the Florida schools, though I doubt the latter.

The Big 12 will expand with some combination of those schools, or it won’t expand at all. Temple is not coming into the Big 12. Colorado State is not coming into the Big 12. Air Force is not coming into the Big 12.

I’m generally pretty good at coming up with theories on why the Big 12 does some of the things it does. Not this time. I’m baffled. Someone tell me why the Big 12 is going through the masquerade of keeping Rice and Tulane on the list.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Tramel qualifies as Premium Top Shelf... but this one is an opinion piece on the process so I'll dump it here.

Berry Tramel: Why is Rice on the Big 12 Expansion List?

Is Rice putting themselves out there as an AAC add?

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Tramel qualifies as Premium Top Shelf... but this one is an opinion piece on the process so I'll dump it here.

Berry Tramel: Why is Rice on the Big 12 Expansion List?

And a good article too. This process is ridiculous.

 

[Stinger92860]

OR...

1) Texas 886-353-33 .710
2) Texas A&M 717-466-44 .602
3) Texas Tech 556-429-32 .560
4) Houston 437-352-15 .541
5) TCU 627-531-57 .540
6) Texas State 505-431-57 .539
7) Baylor 581-551-44 .513
8) North Texas 493-489-33 .502
9) SMU 477-527-54 .476
10) UTSA 26-32 .448
11) Rice 466-586-32 .445
12) UTEP 386-565-30 .409

'Thought you guys deplored judgments drawn on current, yet incomplete data...

Yale 890–366–55 .700

 

[billybud]

Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.

Wisdom is knowing not to put it into a fruit salad

 

[HuskyBandDad]

I caught it because I have CR disease, and of course have memorized the fact that there are 12 FBS schools in Texas.

CR disease can cause blindness, dementia, alzheimers, migraine headaches, blood shooting from your eyes just to name a few.

 

[Marty Jackson]

CR disease can cause blindness, dementia, alzheimers, migraine headaches, blood shooting from your eyes just to name a few.

what about hairy palms?

 

[dayooper]

CR disease can cause blindness, dementia, alzheimers, migraine headaches, blood shooting from your eyes just to name a few.

Not to mention loneliness, lack of physical intimacy, social ridicule and divorce.

 

[CL82]

I thought "The Life of Pi" explained religion best: "which story do you prefer?"

Life of Pi is a good watch on a lot of levels. That quote is the pay off quote of the movie and doesn't apply to religion, but you likely know that. The movie does have a nice piece early on about Pi and experience with different religions. Very interesting.

 

[UConn Dan]

12 flag polls at OU...hmmm...

Oklahoma's new south end zone features 12 flagpoles

 

[NYUConn]

View attachment 15306

12 flag polls at OU...hmmm...

Oklahoma's new south end zone features 12 flagpoles

Big 12 flag on each end 10 member schools in the middle.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Big 12 flag on each end 10 member schools in the middle.

USA flag OK flag

 

[TRest]

View attachment 15306

12 flag polls at OU...hmmm...

Oklahoma's new south end zone features 12 flagpoles

I thought it was the Rent at first glance.

Anyway, there are 6 on each side of the scoreboard and the 3 big ones on top are probably US, OK flag, and one with just a big $.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Posted in the premium thread but McMurphy confirmed Memphis did NOT make the final cut. Also from the same list, it seems Temple was cut as well.

 

[MattMang23]

Posted in the premium thread but McMurphy confirmed Memphis did NOT make the final cut. Also from the same list, it seems Temple was cut as well.

Lololololooooool. But they are the school the Big 12 HAS to have!

 

[UConn Dan]

USA flag OK flag

3 larger flag poles at top are US Flag, OK flag, and either OU flag or Big 12 flag

 

[huskymedic]

Jake Trotter ‏@Jake_Trotter 14m14 minutes ago
Memphis no longer on Big 12’s list of expansion candidates, sources tell @espn. 11 finalists remaining.

We take the stairs ‏@NoEscalators 10m10 minutes ago
please let UPS deliver the rejection letter

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

An epic burn from NoEscalators

 

[huskymedic]

University of Memphis not among Big 12 expansion finalists, ESPN reports (w/ copy of Memphis NDA)